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hope for what? I have never believed in gods and i am a pretty nice guy. I even volunteer at churches. I love the community i live with. I just don’t believe in gods, or that people who do have a monopoly on morality or any reason to accept these beliefs. I have addressed these points in many threads with no one being able to have a mature discussion about why they accept gods. “You gotta have faith” is the only line i get. I understand that faith is the only way to believe these stories. I want to know why believing in anything on faith alone is acceptable.
originally posted by: GeneralMayhem
originally posted by: Woodcarver
I hear this a lot.
There are no atheist in foxholes....
There Are No atheist in foxholes
This is simply a platitude that some think is true. Of course there are atheists in the military, and no amount of fear is going to make me suddenly give up on reason.
Also i would posit that atheists are much less likely to join the military to fight bankers wars and bomb families and children. We are much more logical and are not easily swayed with emotional pleas Christianity has long been the tool to use to get people behind evil bureaucrats.
The point is that you dont just give up on hope because hope appears abandonable . Especially when the next stop is at bereavement services
This is a good description. In my brain, i have a concept of what a god is, because i have talked to many people about their beliefs. It is akin to my concept of zeus, thor, and bloody mary.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: StallionDuck
My take on it is like this. Even though I don't believe in gods I have a very strong concept in my mind of what one would be like. There would be a reaction of eversion to daring such a concept to cause harm to my family. Most atheists do not claim to know there is no god so god it is an open-ended question on their minds. We don't make positive claims of the unknown unlike believers.
I remember when the movie candyman came out we had fun daring others to call it out in the mirror when it was my turn it sent chills up my spine when I did it. Does that mean I believed the movie to be true? Of course not, but I had a strong concept/visualization in my mind that caused the aversion.
The two scenarios can be equated and so the aversion people feel can be understood on both basis.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
I remember when the movie candyman came out we had fun daring others to call it out in the mirror when it was my turn it sent chills up my spine when I did it. Does that mean I believed the movie to be true? Of course not, but I had a strong concept/visualization in my mind that caused the aversion.
The two scenarios can be equated and so the aversion people feel can be understood on both basis.
wait though, you just listed a whole slew of bad characteristics that you apply to atheists
We are much more logical and are not easily swayed with emotional pleas
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Woodcarver
Atheism doesn't exist.
the bible is full of god killing people’s parents, kids, brothers, sisters. For one who believes in the literal interpretation of those stories, you can’t deny that it is prevalent in the book.
originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Woodcarver
Atheism doesn't exist.
wait though, you just listed a whole slew of bad characteristics that you apply to atheists
And seemingly you added to the list?
We are much more logical and are not easily swayed with emotional pleas
Anyway, I see the same flaws in this endeavor that likely account
for people taking such a ridiculous stance as atheism. The questions
OP has quoted add up to complete ignorance. "I wish God would kill
my parents"?
WTF is that? I mean really? These people doing the servay don't
even have a clue. Or maybe they do. Let's dress God up like a
murder for hire bell hop that waits on his creations beckon
call. Completely obscuring the fact that the only meaning his
creations life could ever have according to rational thought
would be to serve him, in gratitude and amazement of his
power and glory.
But we aren't even worthy of that. The very idea of
atheism is proof enough for me.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
Also i would posit that atheists are much less likely to join the military to fight bankers wars and bomb families and children. We are much more logical and are not easily swayed with emotional pleas Christianity has long been the tool to use to get people behind evil bureaucrats.
This is a really desperate sounding comment, randyvs.
It's ok for you to believe and it's ok for others to not believe.
Your stated beliefs are on the extreme side of belief.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: StallionDuck
I remember when the movie candyman came out we had fun daring others to call it out in the mirror when it was my turn it sent chills up my spine when I did it. Does that mean I believed the movie to be true? Of course not, but I had a strong concept/visualization in my mind that caused the aversion.