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originally posted by: Nothin
originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: MotherMayEye
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I do believe there is energy consciousness.
But, in no way do I believe there is a god or omnipotent being of that nature.
Hi Annee, and MME who agreed with Annee's point.
What's the difference between the belief in a god, and a belief in in "energy consciousness"?
Do they both not require a leap of faith?
Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
originally posted by: MotherMayEye
originally posted by: Nothin
originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: MotherMayEye
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I do believe there is energy consciousness.
But, in no way do I believe there is a god or omnipotent being of that nature.
Hi Annee, and MME who agreed with Annee's point.
What's the difference between the belief in a god, and a belief in in "energy consciousness"?
Do they both not require a leap of faith?
Consciousness requires energy. That is a provable scientific fact.
I already explained that science (through nature) proves that ideas born in minds do not *poof* spontaneously materialize in nature on sheer will, alone.
originally posted by: StallionDuck
I believe this would fall more under Science than Religion based on how the information came to light.
A study has found that Atheist might not be unbelievers after all...
A study in Finland explored how religious and non-religious people responded to the idea of God.
The researchers used electrodes to measure how much sweat people produced while reading statements like "I dare God to make my parents drown" or "I dare God to make me die of cancer".
Unexpectedly, when nonbelievers read the statements, they produced as much sweat as believers - suggesting they were equally anxious about the consequences of their dares.
When I first read the information, I thought that perhaps it was simply because people in general, believers or not, would have the same reaction based on the words they were saying. Superstition perhaps? Not quite so...
And that's not simply because nonbelievers didn't want to wish harm on others. A companion study showed that similar dares that did not involve God (such as, "I wish my parents would drown") did not produce comparable increases in sweat levels.
Together, then, these findings suggest that despite denying that God exists, nonbelievers behaved as though God did exist.
So does that mean that Atheist really do believe in God? Well, not really...
Does this mean that nonbelievers are lying when they say they reject God? Not exactly. Rather, these contradictory behaviours probably arise in part due to living in a theistic culture that hammers home the idea that God exists.
Perhaps this leads nonbelievers to form "implicit" attitudes that are at odds with their "explicit" ones.
So what does that mean exactly? Read more here to find out!
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
It takes more faith for an atheist to believe there is no God than to believe in God. Atheism isn't really about believing or not believing though, it's about arrogance, vanity, pompous self importance, a purposeful lack of humility and rebellion against anything except the atheist's own desires. Once a person grows beyond the need for all those childish things and casts them away, (if they can ever get over themselves), can they discover that God exists and is waiting for them to begin seeing truth.
originally posted by: Peeple
An atheist is to me someone who probably has spend more time and effort into answering the question if there is a god more than I ever did or will. To come to such fundamental conclusion, I at least hope the search was long hard and made diligently.
originally posted by: coomba98
a reply to: Barcs
Given that the Gnostic knowledge of Christianity is the bible which has only been available to the public since around the 1500's (estimated 3/4 since its inception), i consider myself a Gnostic Atheist with regards to Christianity.
Coomba98
originally posted by: thepixelpusher
Faith and science need not be mutually exclusive. I have faith when I flip a light switch that the light will com on. God's entry pervades the Universe and all its dimensions. I have faith and see science in his works on earth.
originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: Barcs
You are of course correct there are all those, but the bottom line is there is a bunch of people that are very sure of there belief structure they debate it passionately on these forums, they aren't coming into threads saying I don't know.
My experience online across all forums not just ATS is simply this, the more time people spend defending their "No Creator" position and attacking any type of creation ideology the more hardcore atheistic ideologically they are, they can categorize themselves however they want, their passion and time spent tell the tale.
Barcs which do you consider yourself ?
1)Negative Atheist (A type of agnostic)
2)Positive Atheist (A person who believes that no god or gods exist.)
Explicit "positive" / "strong" / "hard" atheists assert that "At least one deity exists" is false.
Explicit "negative" / "weak" / "soft" atheists do not assert the above but reject or eschew a belief that any deities
exist
Implicit "negative" / "weak" / "soft" atheists include agnostics (and infants or babies) who do not believe or do not know that a deity or deities exist and who have not explicitly rejected or eschewed such a belief.