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How big will the counter-revolution to Trump be???

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posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
It wasn’t even hidden...

For every teapartier it wasn’t about the “black” but for plenty it was..


And the reports, the videos busting agent provocateurs going into Tea Party crowds with racist signs to smear them?

The fact is we the primarily Libertarian Ron Paul Revolution started the Tea Party Movement, and it was hijacked by Glenn Beck and Fox News because it was a threat to the GOP status quo. Then it got smeared as being racist (apparently ala agent provocateurs). But it was always going to get smeared as such anyways whoever was against Obama was a RACIST:



You wanna talk about racism? For about 10 years of my adult life in the current city I never got CHECKED in line, straight CUT in front of and never almost had to fight them when standing up for myself, at a checkout by black folks, then immediately after Obama that's what happened. The first time the bitch snapped her fingers "Obama, Obama, Obama" at me.

This pattern went on for years, it went as far as intimidation of death on one occasion. That was 2 years ago, after SJW Critical Race Theory mania had been running amok and was hitting peak plateau, although I was so tuned out of politics & social media at the time I had no idea any of that drama was going on I was just seeing its progression from the feet on the ground level.

Then last summer I finally logged in by chance and see white liberals SCREAMING for white GENOCIDE. And I figured out the Critical Race Theory and its role in imploding our social fabric you wonder why I went ballistic against your Hillary agenda in response?

People use racial slurs and that's life, it doesnt mean people go and punk people. I'd bet that 96.33838% the time people use such slurs they dont actually direct them at the group, they dont actually go and 'hurt' people with them. To go and stomp out civility that's the SJW Agenda and it had to be resisted. Everyone but SJW are sick to death of SJW. This isn't even a left / right issue anymore, except in the mind of SJW.

Go hang out with any and every race / ethnic group in the Detroit Metro Area for a entire summer your head will explode... yet they dont go and abuse everyone with it all either. Note that the blacks will be 100% as guilty as anyone else... although one key difference is they are the ones that above all do wield racial slurs at all the other groups. The rest in my experience living up there, and I mean all of them, they use them at each other more than anything like an extended set of 'bitch' or 'asshole' type insults, I mean just being funny with their buddies.

But OMG some white people out there called Obama an N. That proves it the white race must be stomped out. What about any Jews that called him that? What about the Arabs that did? They're probably the worst of the racial slur racial stereotype mongers I ever met. What are we going to do about them? If its genocide for whites oh noes with the Oakland County arabs.

Nevermind for Obama to win millions of whites had to vote for him.

And then there's the bigger issue of racial slurs, racism are but one stripe of group oriented bigotry (tribalism). Lib's keep acting like its some special one of a kind Thing, but it aint. Its just a specific form of triblism. Just like all the other ism's lib's these days are totally off the rails with trying to ram down everyones throats. It's all Supremacism when it is. The partisan bigotry that spews (from the left of particular note in recent years), its no different than racism, while its also riddled with racism. Its the same kind of animal just another species. And its time we all get straight with this if toning down bigotry is an actual thing people are supposed to be about. Is it???

And all that came from Obama, across the 'liberal realm', from black ghetto trash punks and bitches to Hollywood 'pharaohs' we've experienced it all go down in such spectacular form that random white people were shot, beaten and abducted en masse on a weekly basis last year. And with the brazen support of the media, Obama, Hollywood, etc even right in this forum were brungin down threads in support of even mass murderers.

And you say there needs to be a "counter-revolution" to the guy that got elected as the only measure left to stop this BS effing white genocide agenda?




posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

The Trump movement is the counter-revolution. The Revolutionart groups are the Commie revolution. They have never won, but it doesn't stop the commie revolution resurgence. Good thing Trump fought the International Commie Socialists globalists back. There can't be two counter-revolution. The counter-revolution is the one with ideas counter to the American revolution, which are those who are against free markets, individualism, and decentralization ideas from the American Revolution. The only group that comes to mind is the Communists collectivist, centralize, globalists, revolutionary groups that are the antithesis to the American Revolution and they are groups coming from mostly the left.
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posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:42 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

(Disclaimer.. I don’t mean you, when I say you..I mean “anyone in general” as a figure of speech.)


A) falsely accusing someone of racism doesn’t make you a racist..

It makes you a liar, political shill , stupid , wrong, exc..

That is the most retarded logic ever and inherently if that logic is followed. Then everyone falsely accusing people of racism is racist . Including those who are accusing people of being racist, for falsely accusing people of being racist..

Being racist , makes you a racist..

Being wrong the definition of racism is makes someone ignorant.. not a racist..

How anyone EVER thought that was sound logic , I have no idea..


“ hey, we are tired of being accused of racism for things unrelated to race!!”

“I know , let’s just falsely accuse them for being racist. Like NO ONE in the conversation has a dictionary.”


Lol..

If someone says only white people are racists..

That’s racist.. because it concerns ALL white people..


Saying “joe blow is a racist” when joe is not. Isn’t being a racist, It is being wrong.. because Joe blow is not a race..

Saying all white republicans are racists, isn’t even racist because then your line is drawn by political party, not race.


B) the whole white genocide thing is just hilarious..

If white people go extinct, it won’t be a concerted effort by the illuminati. Our penises will take care of that for us. Lol..

Just like evolution will almost certainly turn the entire human race into a nice tan color. Because we all like to bang each other so much.

Which is a great thing.. you extinguish any genetic disorders.. remove skin cancer from the medical scene and gain a whole globe worth of immunities.


The only thing that came from obam was proving that a certain section of the population wasn’t ready for a black guy to be president . So because of that they were willing to believe ANYTHING negative no matter how silly..



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

So how is it that Trump is a racist again? I've gotten lost in all the political giddyup.....

Oh...and you're an idiot....blah blah blah.


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posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:08 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
A) falsely accusing someone of racism doesn’t make you a racist..

It makes you a liar, political shill , stupid , wrong, exc..

That is the most retarded logic ever and inherently if that logic is followed. Then everyone falsely accusing people of racism is racist . Including those who are accusing people of being racist, for falsely accusing people of being racist..

Being racist , makes you a racist..

Being wrong the definition of racism is makes someone ignorant.. not a racist..


People whom are absolutely obsessed with racism, to the point that it permeates in and out of their every writing / statement / manifesto / ideal / identity / attitude / concern / action / etc are racist.

It doesnt matter if they're "on the right side" of racism, its still the same animal ultimately. In the 50's to be anti-non-white was the "right side" for the racist to operate.

Today being anti-white is the "right side" for the racist to operate.

Maybe there'd be an argument that SJW is totally different if there were NOT commonplace celebrations of reports of an increasing white suicide rate, appeals to #killallwhitemen, and academic screams for "white genocide"...

But this is just what comes with the territory.

And all this does is goad whites into an otherwise absolutely non-existent Solidarity and opens them up to the forces of actual proper white supremacist types.

This is basic social psychology stuff here, which if I were SJW upon encountering my lessons I'd go out of my mind in rabid opposition to the fountainheads of SJW because they're straight out of the academic social psycology / social science departments of the big technocrat universities such as University of California, Stanford and so on. My point is this is hardcore social engineering they've hoodwinked the entire liberal base into. And for what is the Big Question. I'll tell you what it isn't: these people dont care about black babies and gay kids I can guarantee you that. The true apex of this culture their religion is technology, and the Promised Land they're after is just around the corner just so long as everyone is too distracted via being at each other throats over their Identity then they just might in time obtain.....



Saying “joe blow is a racist” when joe is not. Isn’t being a racist,


Dude everyone is 'racist'. Like I always say, "Racism is but a form of Tribalism, while Tribalism is hard wired in our DNA. It holds societies together, while driving them to war with each other".

Some individuals are far far more racist than others of course, but concerning ideological groups supremacism is the common thread amongst them all. Some people cant exist in their own mind without obsessing over what GROUP they're in (and that's the primal urge that Collectivism appeals to). Other people are individuals in thought. And group identity people drive them up a wall. BUT if you push far enough saying you're going to exterminate them eventually at some point you'll push them into the group mindset as self-preservation kicks in. Then everyone else falls in between this spectrum. While when the racists get pushing their extremism far enough this opens people whom otherwise wouldn't pay much mind to supremacists, it may push them into their arms. Note that the other group starting all the BS whether they be white or SJW they're all supremacists. Same thing just different stripes!

You want to cure racism then counter-tribalism is the only true way. I've posted a books worth about it now, but of course nobody trying to hear it.


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posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 01:07 AM
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a reply to: amfirst1

Revolutions and counter revolutions are POV or interchangeable.

History will decide what is considered progress and who ends up looking like monsters... and in today’s hyper literate state. There will be plenty of data to debunk the propagandists.


The anti-segregation, anti women’s sufferage and pro-slavery movements thought they were going to be the ones remembered well too.


When in reality by modern standard if most of our ancestors had the ability to act like monsters.. as a whole, they kinda acted like monsters lol..



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 01:54 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

People when in groups tend to be monsters; are readily excitable into being monsters. There's this whole concept of "Group Psychopathy" I've been focused on this year, although there's basically nothing written on it as a term, history is an endless chronology of its effects: Groups of otherwise ordinary individuals turn into boodthirsty psychopathic monsters when stoked up into group fervor. It's so fundamental to the human creature, apparently its more or less gone on undiscussed er well unspecified all this time as a result...

Where the stronger the appeal to GROUP the more it is to be expected. And as such, there's no disputing this part, all last year it was the collectivist group identity crowd out beating, shooting, abducting, etc people perceived as being the out group [which was basically everybody but them as potential targets (whites, conservatives, Trump supporters, alt-right, libertarians, christians, etc)].

Plain as day.

Irrefutable.

Tribalism run amok.

Surely I dont even have to dig up the threads / videos for you.

And i swear with my life, to someone educated with / having strong instincts about the science of Social Psychology it was all entirely predictable outcome by the fountainheads who cooked this whole movement up. It DIDNT all come about naturally; this is decades of development and deployment (social engineering) for this whole situation to unfold almost overnight the way it did this decade.

You want to see an end to this kind of stuff well repeating history isnt going to cure the history from this stuff. Only a whole new kind of thinking can do it:
Arise the ALT/ALT!
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posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 02:00 AM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox


Revolution: the first “black” president.

Counter revolution: the tea party movement and now trump..


So what does the pushback to trump look like in the future??

How far does the pendulum swing back the other way in the wake of Trump’s craziness?????



Would it be strange if the counter revolution actually happened under Obama and we are just seeing the remnants dying out?

Think of the 99%ers and the anti-police, plus others that at first we saw this big Antifa movement that looked like the 99%ers and now not much of anything as just maybe the craziness under Obama is fading...

Just a thought..



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 12:35 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

Counter-revolution/revolution are interchangeable and a POV thing..

In our movie the Russian spy is the villian and in russia’s Movie he’s the hero.


PS....

Big Antifa movement that happened 3 Times within an 18 month period, with less than 200 people and that led to no deaths..


The horror...

If the BS over hype of that isn’t propaganda I don’t know what is...

Especially, when being compared to the KKK or other centuries old white supremacy movements that have taken LITERALLY countless lives..


It’s what conservative media does..

The MSM does a story when an elected republican or big wig says something stupid..

The Fox News crowd will highlight some random college kid with no authority or following..



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox


Especially, when being compared to the KKK or other centuries old white supremacy movements that have taken LITERALLY countless lives..



Do you think the KKK has been anything other than a small group of failed white people blaming their failures on others instead of themselves for many decades now. They are a joke and have been for a very long time.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 03:38 PM
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Agreed, they are a joke and have very low political pull with anyone. Most serious people won't touch them with a 10 foot poll, they are like Plutonium.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I think that if trump does not deliver his promises made to 3000 rural counties on jobs and healthcare, it’s going to be ugly. The farmers are beginning to find how much they will lose if pulled out of nafta. I don’t know what they were so mad about in the first place.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: JoshuaCox


Especially, when being compared to the KKK or other centuries old white supremacy movements that have taken LITERALLY countless lives..



Do you think the KKK has been anything other than a small group of failed white people blaming their failures on others instead of themselves for many decades now. They are a joke and have been for a very long time.


Yeah its absurd. They've only been given life again by the actions of the SJW. On the one hand they're all like "look its totally cool to be racist again", and on the other the SJW certainly been pushing people into the KKK direction. Dylan Roof for example I read his quote right on his wikipedia page how the SJW storm drove him to commit his atrocities. Sure there were random atrocious acts here and there any given year by white supremacists, like with individuals from any other group, while it wasnt a wide open societal norm situation like the bulk of an entire two party out sympathizing with white genocide saber rattlers and increasingly routine racially driven gang beatings. There was absolutely no comparison.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

It's Christmas...you can wish. But what is being seen cannot be unseen.

The man behind the curtain has been revealed you can't just pull it closed again.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yeah its absurd. They've only been given life again by the actions of the SJW. On the one hand they're all like "look its totally cool to be racist again", and on the other the SJW certainly been pushing people into the KKK direction.


Don't really think so...the media has given both groups their 15 mins of fame and it is now 16 mins...
Notice how the media has moved on...almost zero coverage of any of this that is most likely still about the same as it was in the past.




Dylan Roof for example I read his quote right on his wikipedia page how the SJW storm drove him to commit his atrocities. Sure there were random atrocious acts here and there any given year by white supremacists, like with individuals from any other group, while it wasnt a wide open societal norm situation like the bulk of an entire two party out sympathizing with white genocide saber rattlers and increasingly routine racially driven gang beatings. There was absolutely no comparison.


Boy if that is all it takes to drive someone to mass murder and they were sane to begin with we are all in a heap of trouble...

But then the media once again drives this bus. There is a Charleston church shooting in Chicago every weekend, 52 weeks a year, and that is just one city of many.

We think all america is the same because we see the same stores restaurants etc all speak English and so on..but we are like 50 unique countries that in many ways are totally different from each other. The good news is we have the freedom to chose which place we want to live and raise our kids. There are a lot of really good places in America and there are a lot of really bad places too.


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posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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A) the kkk is Less of a joke than antifa... I promise KKK membership is in the thousands and they have committed murders within the last few years..

B) Why do groups like antifa, the black panthers , exc get attributed to the “left” or the democrat party?!?!

They do not support democrat canidates..

They are not supported by any left wing news sites...

Your average liberal/democrat doesn’t support them...

It’s not like the black panthers or antifa we’re supporting and voting for hillary F’n clinton?!?!

Hell, I bet they don’t even think of them selves as liberals nor democrats?!??!

I guess it is based around the logic that anyone not conservative enough for Sean hannity is “the left”???


Now compare that to the white supremacy groups..

They ALL consider themselves “proud conservatives” ....

They ALL vote republican..

They were ALL in head first for Donald trump.

TO BE FAIR, the rightwing media doesn’t claim them, Neither does your average rank and file republican.

But ANTIFA checks none of those boxes.....


C) Racially, We have made , just an insane amount of progress in the last century.. but as anyone who is knowledgeable about the history of post Civil War America can tell you. We were starteing at the bottom of the barrel..


Slavery wasn’t the worst of it..


During slavery blacks were like pets.. if your average pet was worth 40,000$ had the ability to produce a profit without you adding much investment.

During slavery those who were the most brutal to their slaves were looked down on like someone who mutilated their dogs..

Rape was still crazy prevalent.. to where every house had a bunch of little mollatto children..

BUT AFTER THE WAR..

All reason to be nice was gone.. all white southerners had no more material investment in them and all social taboo concerning violence against your slaves evaporated because they were an all too convienient place to lay all the blame from the war..

IT IS AMAZING THE PROGRESS WE HAVE MADE!!!

Half a life time ago it interracial marriage was still illegal and no white man had ever been convicted of a crime against a black person?!?



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 12:02 AM
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Because they are funded by the same groups that fund the Democrat party, therefore, they are classified with the Democrat party, even if they are useful idiots or not.
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posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 11:52 AM
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“Classified.. “

Meaning “I have no proof for my claim, but since I cannot logically connect them to “the left” I’m gonna spout out some conspiracy theory..”


“Alex Jones and Sean hannity told me so..”

Is only proof of something in rightwing world..



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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Except the kkk is a century old organization with thousands of murders, rapes and arsons under their belt. That carried the TOTAL support of most conservatives previous to the last 40 years...

so that is a hell of a long 15 min of fame..

Since Antifa was never supported by even a fraction of liberals, is only 18 months old and had no rapes or murders under their belt.. it’s fair to say they were almost certainly an anomaly.
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posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox

Except the kkk is a century old organization with thousands of murders, rapes and arsons under their belt. That carried the TOTAL support of most conservatives previous to the last 40 years...

so that is a hell of a long 15 min of fame..


We are talking current times right? KKK has been a nothing for many decades..



Since Antifa was never supported by even a fraction of liberals, is only 18 months old and had no rapes or murders under their belt.. it’s fair to say they were almost certainly an anomaly.


I agree they are one piece of a bigger pie...Why even come into existence in the first place unless other forces are also in play. A lot of it is a mixture of anarchist of different levels mixed with the left movement against Trump.

Find me one conservative in the Antifa movement and I'll find you 1000 alt liberals.




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