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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
How big will the counter-revolution to Trump be???
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar
Trump would have been farther left than hillary IF he wasn’t surrounded by the few hard right commentators who were willing to support him early..
I heard “I’ll never vote for that “'n-word'” so many times in that time period.. and I was in Kansas City at the time, not in MS where I grew up and presently live.
Both places are VERY deep red with particularly racial histories, so I’m always open to a chunk of my experiences being regional.
Thinking can be scary. And these people have adopted fear to the point they will put their own imagined security over the cause of freedom every chance they get.
That is the oldest most considtantly debunked assertion in American history.. it is laughed at by ALL historians because it didn’t happen 1,000 years ago.. we still have all the paperwork.. I got to meet southern historian Shelby Foote the star of Ken Burn’s famous civil war documentary , and he was very pro-confederacy and have no problem acknowledging it was over slavery..
The political parties of the day were not counted in “liberals and conservatives”.. they were counted by “free and slave states.
The whole “war of aggression” stuff is laughable to ANYONE with any knowledge of the period..
The free states CONSTANTLY bent over backwards to appese the slave states. .. Hell they even agreed to giving them 3/5 legislative representation for all the slaves they weren’t allowing to vote..
Which was THE ONLY piece of property that counted toward their congressional representation.
A) the slave states had held a congressional, senatorial, Presidental AND Supreme Court majority for decades..
B) the south fired first.. repeatedly..
C) Everyone of authority, in the confederacy made no qualms about the fact they were fighting to protect slavery and white supremacy.
White supremacy was considered a scientific fact and was universal in America and in the confederacy..
D) the confederacy didn’t allow succession in their constitution either.. their new constitution because they trash canned the US constitution.
The war wasn’t fought over anything that had already happened.. it was fought over demogouge scare tactics over what potentially COULD HAPPEN LATER since the slave states had lost the presidency and potentially the legislative majority, of Lincoln stopped the western states from being slave states...
The south rebelled mainly due to a small group of southern planters and politicians who were demagogues. They had plans to restart the import of slaves from Africa in a plan to buy them cheap there and sell them high in the new western states as they joined the union..
The John Brown raid split the democrat party on the eve of Lincoln’s election . Leading to him winning when he shouldn’t have and the republicans gaining power.
The southern “fire eaters” went home and hyped everyone up to suscede because “they are gonna come free all the slaves and make your daughters marry them.”
The “lost cause” treatment was how the south and US government reconciled. No one was wrong , no one was right. It was all for the best..
None of that is in question nor up for debate.. none of that is subjective..
I was raised in Vicksburg, MS and have spent THOUSANDS of hours researching the civil war, and started with the view it was over taxes..
Well it wasn’t..
It was EXACTLY the equivalent as if the south rebelled the second obama was elected because they believed “he was coming to get your guns”, even though no elected democrat has ever supported a gun ban and confiscation...even though obama swore up and down he had no desire to repeal the second amendment and ban all the guns..