14yo girl facing felony child porn charges, 10 years for selfie

a reply to: Xenogears

if the teenage boyfriend didn't do revenge porn or bullying, there would be no victim.

If the boyfriend shared it electronically with others, as he apparently did, he would also face charges for possession and dissemination of CP.

And the boyfriend is apparently facing charges.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Xenogears

if the teenage boyfriend didn't do revenge porn or bullying, there would be no victim.

If the boyfriend shared it electronically with others, as he apparently did, he would also face charges for possession and dissemination of CP.

And the boyfriend is apparently facing charges.

The problem is on the boyfriend then. Distribution of explicit images without permission of the person is indeed a crime.

The girl should face no penalties for creation, possession or distribution of images of her own body.

a reply to: trollz

Snowden warned us of the surveillance control state. Welcome to your slavery.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

A what if the charges, which are very real, are enforced? What's accomplished by waiting to see if they show any compassion. The legal system rarely shows compassion.

a reply to: UKTruth

You either never had kids, they are still very young, they are very old and you missed the technology stage or you are simply clueless regarding what is actually going on. Kids, i.e. 12 - 24 do everything via electronic communication. They send all sorts of pictures around that are inappropriate. Most do not involve underage nudity, thankfully. Why do you think things like snap chat have become so popular. The sender thinks they can send something that is exciting and it will be automatically deleted. It may or may not. But, the kids think so and it gives them 'freedom' to do a lot of things they should not be doing. Now that my kids are in the 19-23 age range, I laugh at them regarding what they are going to have to do to 'protect' their kids.

These kids are not bad. They are having fun and this is how they communicate. It sometimes makes no sense to us old folks, but, that doesn't matter. To them, this is the way it is.

a reply to: Xenogears

Distribution of explicit images without permission of the person is indeed a crime.

I think distribution of CP is the more serious issue/crime here.

And no, the girl shouldn't. I never said she should.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: Xenogears

Distribution of explicit images without permission of the person is indeed a crime.

I think distribution of CP is the more serious issue/crime here.

And no, the girl shouldn't. I never said she should.

I think there is a difference between CP creation that is the result of abuse, and CP creation that is not the result of abuse.

I mean isn't is ridiculous a teenage boyfriend can not only watch live but also engage in actual sexual relations in many cases, but if there is sexting, oh no all of a sudden it is some unspeakable thing that has been done.

Laws like this need to be fixed. Kids are going to be kids. How can you give a teenager 10 years for something that didn't harm anybody. It makes no sense. People are way too anal these days. I really don't understand how she can be charged for that when she's not even 18 yet. That's like saying that every time a high school couple hooks up, they should both be arrested for rape. These irrational Christian fundies with hypocritical laws. In their day, there was no sexting, just sex. Get over yourselves. You did the same thing when you were young, probably way worse.

originally posted by: dougie6665
a reply to: UKTruth

Kids, i.e. 12 - 24 do everything via electronic communication. They send all sorts of pictures around that are inappropriate. Most do not involve underage nudity, thankfully.

Correct. i.e it is not normal for kids to be sending nude pictures of themselves. Which is what I said.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: dougie6665
a reply to: UKTruth

Kids, i.e. 12 - 24 do everything via electronic communication. They send all sorts of pictures around that are inappropriate. Most do not involve underage nudity, thankfully.

Correct. i.e it is not normal for kids to be sending nude pictures of themselves. Which is what I said.

But it is extremely common.

originally posted by: Theprodicalson

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: dougie6665
a reply to: UKTruth

Kids, i.e. 12 - 24 do everything via electronic communication. They send all sorts of pictures around that are inappropriate. Most do not involve underage nudity, thankfully.

Correct. i.e it is not normal for kids to be sending nude pictures of themselves. Which is what I said.

But it is extremely common.

Yeah, that's why when it happens it makes national news.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Theprodicalson

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: dougie6665
a reply to: UKTruth

Kids, i.e. 12 - 24 do everything via electronic communication. They send all sorts of pictures around that are inappropriate. Most do not involve underage nudity, thankfully.

Correct. i.e it is not normal for kids to be sending nude pictures of themselves. Which is what I said.

But it is extremely common.

Yeah, that's why when it happens it makes national news.

I am a teacher.

I see it every dammed week. A girl sends a nude then her "boyfriend" shares it.
Or a whattapp ring gets reported to me as a bunch of 14 years are sharing nudes as dares. Every week, sometimes every day I hear or see it.

I see it all the time and have to pick up the pieces.


Are you telling I am to deny what I see with my own eyes?

The reason this case hit the new was because of a overzealous prosecutor.

If most schools operate (I am in the UK) like mine, the police are not involved. The relevant parents are contacted, the kids put through Internet safety courses and if some dick head boy shared the nudes then they are disciplined. Police are not contacted unless parents request it and none ever do.



You obviously live a very sheltered life, at least when it comes to teenagers.


Only times it hits the new is if a sucide results or as in this case a insane prosecutor trys to make a example.

a reply to: Theprodicalson

Kids are sharing nude pics they received with you? Regularly?
I think not.

a reply to: UKTruth

Teachers are generally aware of what their students are doing/sharing/saying.

Kids talk. Teachers hear.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Theprodicalson

Kids are sharing nude pics they received with you? Regularly?
I think not.

Use your brain, "seen" is just a expression.


Not the pictures themselves but what has happened if pictures have been shared by idiots. Or someone like a jealous friend reports them.

I then confiscate the phone if they brought it to school. The pictures are then deleted when the parents arrive under supervision of the pastoral head.

Thankfully I haven't had to see the pictures themselves.


Look just admit your wrong, people with more knowledge than you have explained why your wrong. There is no shame in admitting your wrong, only shame in continuing in ignorance as that doesnt help solve this problem.

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: UKTruth

Teachers are generally aware of what their students are doing/sharing/saying.

Kids talk. Teachers hear.

Exactly.

Teenagers are not exactly good at keeping secrets, except from parents

a reply to: Theprodicalson

What you have more knowledge because you say you do? I think you are full of sh** or your school is a cesspool that should be shut down.

It is not common for kids to share nude pics of themselves.

There are about 8m kids in the UK at school. The reports of nude pics being sent are about 1,000 a year. That's 1 for every 8,000 kids. Not common. Just a few poor kids who have not been given any values by bad parents.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Theprodicalson

What you have more knowledge because you say you do?

I work with teenagers. What are you credentials and experience?

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Theprodicalson
I think you are full of sh** or your school is a cesspool that should be shut down.

I have been to 3 separate schools. Its the same in all of them.
Collegues in other schools say the same.

Not to mention the government funded training programs on the issue.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Theprodicalson

It is not common for kids to share nude pics of themselves.

So continuing in ignorance it is for you then?

Just because you keep saying its not common doesnt make it true.....it is common.

But you obviously have a set ridged view of the world.........

originally posted by: Theprodicalson

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Theprodicalson

What you have more knowledge because you say you do?

I work with teenagers. What are you credentials and experience?

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Theprodicalson
I think you are full of sh** or your school is a cesspool that should be shut down.

I have been to 3 separate schools. Its the same in all of them.
Collegues in other schools say the same.

Not to mention the government funded training programs on the issue.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Theprodicalson

It is not common for kids to share nude pics of themselves.

So continuing in ignorance it is for you then?

Just because you keep saying its not common doesnt make it true.....it is common.

But you obviously have a set ridged view of the world.........

Like I said - reported cases make it about 1 in 8000 kids - hardly common. Just bad parenting leading to a significant minority of maladjusted children, just as in this case.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Theprodicalson

There are about 8m kids in the UK at school. The reports of nude pics being sent are about 1,000 a year. That's 1 for every 8,000 kids. Not common. Just a few poor kids who have not been given any values by bad parents. 

Source?

Those statistics if true would be national reported incidents. Incidents dont normally get reported unless bullying or other factors are involved.