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Abbas rules out US peace plan after Jerusalem decision

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posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: nwtrucker


Anti-American? Years of reading your posts. I call it as I see it.


So one that thinks your gov't sucks and is screwing with the world is anti-American. Dude, that's over half of your population. That for us or you're against us mentality is whats wrong.


You make my point....


...only in your own mind.




posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

If they had peace and couldn't constantly play the oppression card people might start asking questions they REALLY don't want asked...

You know like.. how many of you had family in this area in 1850...

That one and a few others could get dicey really quickly!

That and as long as they're not a recognized nation state a bunch of what they pretty much do for fun / "because their god demands it" become acts of war

Speaking of acts of war... Israeli border expansions happened as a result of others actively making war on them, and losing...

Which according to even the UN rulebook means they had every right to annex said territories and even repatriate those there outside their borders...

Remember, it's only illegal if Israel did it!
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posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: intrepid



Cut off all aid. Refuse their products into your country. "Stuff you" right back at em.

You are aware that China illegally occupies Tibet, right?
Are you going to "refuse their products into your country"?



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: MaxMech
a reply to: intrepid



Cut off all aid. Refuse their products into your country. "Stuff you" right back at em.

You are aware that China illegally occupies Tibet, right?
Are you going to "refuse their products into your country"?


And what has that got to do with this issue, aside from deflecting?



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: nwtrucker


Anti-American? Years of reading your posts. I call it as I see it.


So one that thinks your gov't sucks and is screwing with the world is anti-American. Dude, that's over half of your population. That for us or you're against us mentality is whats wrong.


You make my point....




...only in your own mind.


I think not.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: intrepid



And what has that got to do with this issue, aside from deflecting?

No deflection. You were asked what are you going to do about a countries that rejects others' views of international law. And your answer was to "refuse their products into your country".
So I'm asking, are you really going to try to refuse China's products into your country?



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: MaxMech
a reply to: intrepid



Cut off all aid. Refuse their products into your country. "Stuff you" right back at em.

You are aware that China illegally occupies Tibet, right?
Are you going to "refuse their products into your country"?


And what has that got to do with this issue, aside from deflecting?


Not deflection, at all. it merely points out the hypocrisy of the the body you cite and, therefore, the lack of support for anything they claim.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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OK. I'll play. In the case of Israel one CAN reuse ther products. In the case of China their goods are EVERYWHERE. Trying to boycott them would be akin to trying to survive without air. Double standard? No. They just have damn near a monopoly on world production.Even home made products can have Chinese components in them. Nice try though.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: UKTruth


That's just more deflection from your moral high ground.

No, thats your high moral ground.

No itsnitt, yes it is,

Is not, is so,

not, so,

Umm... I'm telling!

Meh, Leaving the sand box now.


No, just trying to get you to answer a question, which you keep failing to do.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: UKTruth

Beautiful way to sweep the Palestinians claims under the carpet. We're only talking about 70 years ago.



Oh? Is there a time limit now?


Hey, you were the one that said they're there now. Too bad, so sad. You want to shoot for some consistency in your argument?


So is there a time limit or not? It's incredibly difficult to get a straight answer out of those who want to jump on some blame Trump bandwagon.

So why would a historical claim to land matter and how long ago is long enough to assume the claim is no longer valid? Really simple questions. An answer, please?
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posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid
OK. I'll play. In the case of Israel one CAN reuse ther products. In the case of China their goods are EVERYWHERE. Trying to boycott them would be akin to trying to survive without air. Double standard? No. They just have damn near a monopoly on world production.Even home made products can have Chinese components in them. Nice try though.


Ah , so you have introduced an economic argument into the equation. Punish countries as long as it doesn't mean you can't buy your new cheap toaster. Got it.

You don't really have an argument, do you? You just wanted to attack Trump.
edit on 24/12/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: intrepid
OK. I'll play. In the case of Israel one CAN reuse ther products. In the case of China their goods are EVERYWHERE. Trying to boycott them would be akin to trying to survive without air. Double standard? No. They just have damn near a monopoly on world production.Even home made products can have Chinese components in them. Nice try though.


Ah , so you have introduced an economic argument into the equation. Punish countries as long as it doesn't mean you can't buy your new cheap toaster. Got it.


OK, try t. Throw out everything in your house that was produced in China. What do you have left? That's not an economic fact, that's reality.


You don't really have an argument, do you?


Ignoring others facts don't make them go away. It just makes you look silly.


You just wanted to attack Trump.


Would you like some cheese to go with that whine?



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:12 AM
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en.wikipedia.org...

Palestinian peace talks.

en.wikipedia.org...

Israeli answer to Palestinian peace talks.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: intrepid
OK. I'll play. In the case of Israel one CAN reuse ther products. In the case of China their goods are EVERYWHERE. Trying to boycott them would be akin to trying to survive without air. Double standard? No. They just have damn near a monopoly on world production.Even home made products can have Chinese components in them. Nice try though.


Ah , so you have introduced an economic argument into the equation. Punish countries as long as it doesn't mean you can't buy your new cheap toaster. Got it.


OK, try t. Throw out everything in your house that was produced in China. What do you have left? That's not an economic fact, that's reality.


You don't really have an argument, do you?


Ignoring others facts don't make them go away. It just makes you look silly.


You just wanted to attack Trump.


Would you like some cheese to go with that whine?


Whether I tried it or not is irrelevant, but I am quite sure I'd have to throw out a fair bit. Though I try where possible not to buy from China as they have no idea how to make decent product. Your position is to punish countries with sanctions unless you need them - then no so much.
You, therefore, have no argument.

Even then, what if the country deals with the sanctions and does what they want to do anyway - like Russia or North Korea. What are you going to do about it? How's international law going to help?

You really haven't thought through any clear position.

Meanwhile - you still haven't answered the basic questions. Probably because you know the answers tear your ill thought out ideas to shreds.


edit on 24/12/2017 by UKTruth because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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en.wikipedia.org...
Palestinian peace talks.
en.wikipedia.org...
Israeli answer to Palestinian peace talks.

An interesting fact about this one - Munich Olympics Massacre



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Ignoring others points and going, "Nah uh, you have no idea" doesn't win you an argument. Like I said, it just makes you look silly. The only thing dumber is continuing to argue with said tool. I bow out. You can consider it a win but reality isn't just what's in your own mind.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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So is there a time limit or not? It's incredibly difficult to get a straight answer out of those who want to jump on some blame Trump bandwagon.


You deflect with every utterance.

If the question is about US policy, you call it Anti-Trump. If the question is about Israel, thats anti-semetic

Try to be more obvious.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:55 AM
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In the case of China their goods are EVERYWHERE.

So wouldn't this be a very effective way to "punish" them? I mean, if you are buying so much of their produce it should be a substantial loss for them if your country will stop importing their products. Maybe they will even reconsider what they are doing in Tibet.
Did you notice how you are willing to ignore China's crimes (or Russia's, or Turkey) but not Israel's?
How is it not a double standard if you suggest different punishment for the same crime?



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: UKTruth

Ignoring others points and going, "Nah uh, you have no idea" doesn't win you an argument. Like I said, it just makes you look silly. The only thing dumber is continuing to argue with said tool. I bow out. You can consider it a win but reality isn't just what's in your own mind.


...so....can you answer the questions, or not?

They seem to be the only thing being ignored.. replaced with obfuscation.
After pages of your obfuscations, it's worthwhile linking back the actual debate.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: UKTruth


So is there a time limit or not? It's incredibly difficult to get a straight answer out of those who want to jump on some blame Trump bandwagon.


You deflect with every utterance.

If the question is about US policy, you call it Anti-Trump. If the question is about Israel, thats anti-semetic

Try to be more obvious.


Ironic.




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