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Abbas rules out US peace plan after Jerusalem decision

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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

You say all that as if illegal Israeli settlements haven’t continued unimpeded to this day...
& as if more aren’t planned for the future...

It’s actually very obvious as to what is occurring in the region...
But only a few people have the balls to say the words Greater Israel.

What a cowardly world we live in.




posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 03:29 PM
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originally posted by: Hazardous1408
“Israelis” are just European refugees.


Completely wrong. The majority of your "Israelis" are actually refugees from the Islamic world. Refugees who had their world stolen from them. Hounded out of their homes, lynched in the streets. Baghdad was 50% Jewish a few decades back. Jews from the Islamic world fled for their lives and Israel today is made up of people who are as a majority Arab Jews.................... Not European



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: Grambler


You admit that the Palestinians want to wipe out Israel.

Israel is wiping out Muslims in countries all over the middle East.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Grambler


And for some reason none of that mattered.

Yet the U.S. moving a building, that is a step too far.

Jerusalem is site of the (EDIT: Dome of the Rock), one of three Holy Sites in Islam. How did you expect them to react when it was made a Jewish Capital City?


The temple of Solomon predates the Dome.

"Palestinians" are just Jordanian refugees.

Israel is nought but a forward military base on the eastern seaboard of the Mediterranean for the West to exploit the ME for resources, territory and control.

I know you get that, Dad of War.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: UKTruth

Beautiful way to sweep the Palestinians claims under the carpet. We're only talking about 70 years ago.



Oh? Is there a time limit now?
Then the Israeli's just have to wait it out and then it's theirs and everyone will be good to go, right. Brilliant. So, how long is the time limit? Once we've established that, I am sure we can start redrawing the world map and everyone will be just cool.
Can we have The British Americas back, please? After all, it was only around 250years you took it from us. It's ours and you have no right to our land. Come to think of it, we should get Australia back too and most of the world. Rule Britannia. Or is that too long ago?

The Palestinians can claim all they want. What are they going to do about it? Their only route is a peace deal, but Abbas says no, so they are going to be left to history. His choice.
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Grambler


Many charters of Islamic groups or countries call for the elimination of the state of israel.

Because "Israel" has been killing and oppressing their fellow "Muslims" since the Jews illegally occupied Palestine after WWII.


You know when you take this 'route' it's an impossible logic. The U.N. gave that land to Israel. Hence, 'legal'. If the U.N. didn't have the right to do so, then it also doesn't have the 'right' to call Israel's move 'illegal'.A complete non sequitur.

Your inane diatribe on 'legal-illegal' is no more than bleating and changes nothing.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Grambler


You admit that the Palestinians want to wipe out Israel.

Israel is wiping out Muslims in countries all over the middle East.


Again let's say that is true.

Then why is that not enough of a deal to end peace talks, but the U.S. moving the embassy is.

Something doesn't add up.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

Blah Blah, tis a violation of International law to invade and occupy countries.

Things like Sovereignty, Autonomy and Self Determination become meaningless, except when applying double standards.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: nwtrucker

Blah Blah, tis a violation of International law to invade and occupy countries.

Things like Sovereignty, Autonomy and Self Determination become meaningless, except when applying double standards.


Blah, blah , blah. The land that was occupied by Syria, the land occupied by Jordan except when applying double standard.
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: nwtrucker

Blah Blah, tis a violation of International law to invade and occupy countries.

Things like Sovereignty, Autonomy and Self Determination become meaningless, except when applying double standards.


How far has that international law got Palestine? International law is a joke because not every country signs up to it - therefore it is a global dictatorship that is only applied when the country breaking the law is not strong enough to say 'get lost'.

What are you going to do when a strong country says 'shove your international law up your a**'? The answer is F all, because sovereignty, autonomy and self-determination is ALL that matters and if a country is strong enough to enforce it, international law is toilet paper.
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: intrptr
have to have a country 1st to steal it.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Grambler


You admit that the Palestinians want to wipe out Israel.

Israel is wiping out Muslims in countries all over the middle East.


Can't wait to hear this one: where are they "wiping out" ie; the act or an instance of wiping out : complete or utter destruction of Muslims in the Middle East?



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

They did what was best for America rather than making a BS political statement that means nothing and has zero functional value..


Because they didn’t want America to lose without something to win...



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: UKTruth

They did what was best for America rather than making a BS political statement that means nothing and has zero functional value.

Because they didn’t want America to lose without something to win...


You could Contend that continuing the same policies that have failed to achieve lasting peace , is an insane policy. Just saying.

Has keeping our embassy in Tel Aviv got peace done? Maybe this will give a sense of urgency to the Palestinians.

It's not like we had an impending Peace deal on the table frankly.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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The poor Palestinians. Given the boot from every ME country that ever let em in. Those Arab countries realized early on they were not as they thought. The Palestinians used the goodwill of these countries to launch hostile takeover attempts.Just like they still do.
Shame that some of the rest of the world cannot come to the same realization the Palestinian's own did. Especially the UN. I guess they have "collective selective amnesia" when it comes to certain historical facts.




posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 08:43 PM
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Ia reply to: pavil

Tdo we have ANY hope for a peace deal now lol???

No...

There is no scenerio where this makes the palastinians no longer want their own state ...

There is no scenerio where there is ANY win in it for America..

Isreal already loves us..

This will encourage every other state I the region to hate us...

Do you think the bush’s Didn’t love isreal sufficiently?!??

Of course they did.. it was understood that it could only hurt America, but cannot help us.. .. at all..

No one can even imagaine a scenerio where it helps us..

But I guess the other presidents cared more about America than publicity..




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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: dragonridr


There never were Palestinians that was made up by yasser Arafat.


That’s an interesting claim you have parroted...
The supposed quote that “Palestinians do not exist” is also attributed to Zuheir Mohsen as well.

Let us know when you Zionists have come to an agreement on which villain made this highly alleged but so far unprovable claim.



Goebbels would have been proud of the propaganda effort used for that angle, for sure.


Funny you mentioned Nazis since in world war 2 they were the ones that turned the Arab world against Jews. Hitler made great efforts to promote anti Semitic ideas in the Arab world. Im sure Gobbles is very proud of the fact he made Arabs hate Jews. Drove them out of the middle east countries that had huge Jewish populations like Iran Syria Jordan went to almost zero. Uncertain you bought in to a revised history the true history is there when you get rid of your bias.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:15 PM
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originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Hazardous1408

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Grambler


And for some reason none of that mattered.

Yet the U.S. moving a building, that is a step too far.

Jerusalem is site of the (EDIT: Dome of the Rock), one of three Holy Sites in Islam. How did you expect them to react when it was made a Jewish Capital City?


The temple of Solomon predates the Dome.

"Palestinians" are just Jordanian refugees.


“Israelis” are just European refugees.


Again wrong though many Jews fled to Israel there were all ways Jews there they never left.


Plenty of Arabs there too who never left, but you don’t accept the title Palestinian...
So how is it you can say Jew = Israeli?


You do realize there is Arabs that are Israeli citizens and many will tell you the Palestinians are lying.

www.timesofisrael.com...



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: UKTruth

They did what was best for America rather than making a BS political statement that means nothing and has zero functional value..


Because they didn’t want America to lose without something to win...


If Israelis wanted to get rid of Palestinians be incredibly easy. Stop supporting them stop providing power water fuel and food. The only reasons Palestinians can even attack Israel is because they wont allow them to die hey are dependant on Israeli support as the Arab countries cut them off. Israel even attempted to return the land it took giving it back to Egypt Syria and Jordan. Those countries refused because they didn't want them as citizens and even blocks their application.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I agree nothing was gained politically but nothing lost either places like Syria Egypt and Jordan were anti American long before this. Other countries like Saudi Arabia doesnt really care about Palestinians.




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