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Abbas rules out US peace plan after Jerusalem decision

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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Hazardous1408


Using that criteria, the native Americans in America should lobbing rockets at New York City.

The Arabs want the Jews dead...period.
No peace ever.




posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: pavil



"The United States has proven to be a dishonest mediator in the peace process and we will no longer accept any plan from it," Abbas said at a press conference with French President Emmanuel Macron.

He's right , they went into it with the hope of a state of their own while all the time the Israeli government were laughing behind their back stealing their land with no censure from the US , to quote my own dear leader "no deal is better than a bad deal"

But hey , Muslims Eh.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:07 PM
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And where is the Dome of the Rock located? What is the prior significance of that location .


You can do this! I know you can!



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Using that criteria, the native Americans in America should lobbing rockets at New York City.


Nope. They're smarter than the Palestinians, they opened casinos.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:10 PM
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A defeated people’s last gasp.

There will be no peace.

There never was any to begin with.




posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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Trump administration especially mentioned: Jerusalem could be the capital of BOTH!

8D chess.. He broke the impasse.. give it some time.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: pavil
And where is the Dome of the Rock located? What is the prior significance of that location .

Before or after the history was rewritten...



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: wdkirk
A defeated people’s last gasp.

There will be no peace.

There never was any to begin with.



Over a billion Muslims in the world, hardly a 'defeated people'.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Using that criteria, the native Americans in America should lobbing rockets at New York City.


Nope. They're smarter than the Palestinians, they opened casinos.



Exactly, they made lemonade..



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Exactly, they made lemonade..


And cheap ciggies.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: Hazardous1408
Right?

I mean who in their right mind turns down negotiating with someone who annexes large swaths of land and then demands that it stays that way as a part of the Peace deal?

I know when my neighbour decides to take over my front room and then says let’s find a peaceful solution, I’ll just accept it when he says a precondition to agreement is that he keeps the front room he stole.

& anyone who wouldn’t accept that outcome is surely to blame for negotiations breaking down.

I don’t understand why people like Abbas just won’t accept havjng a boot on their neck.



We are not taking a position of any final status issues, including the specific boundaries of the Israeli sovereignty in Jerusalem, or the resolution of contested borders.


Uh huh... Trump never lies...

& when a leader proclaims a position on a country’s capital along with a decision to place an embassy in said “capital” it should be obvious to everyone that it’s not really a “long term decision” or “final status”...

Why would anyone have the silly idea that the contested borders are non-negotiable just because a leader declared those contested borders no longer “contested” in their eyes?


/alotofsarc




Now... you can believe all of that above...
Or you can find a solution to your ignorance and actually accept reality.


Here's reality for you. Negotiate, work out the best deal you can....or lose.

That's reality. Deal with it.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Using that criteria, the native Americans in America should lobbing rockets at New York City.


Nope. They're smarter than the Palestinians, they opened casinos.


I imagine the Palestinians could open casinos too but then having that money stolen would not make the venture worth while.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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Using that criteria, the native Americans in America should lobbing rockets at New York City.


To put it succinctly, no.

Israel was created stolen by subjugation & terrorism...

You saying that Palestinians “never wanted peace in the first place” is shown to be with good reason, since there was absolutely no peace involved at the beginning from the Zionists who now tout peace as their goal.

I don’t see how people can’t understand resistance to this creation of terror.


The Arabs want the Jews dead...period.


All but one of Islam’s Prophets are Jewish.
So again, no.

It’s a nice Hasbara narrative though, it’s been cemented in the minds of many.
edit on 23-12-2017 by Hazardous1408 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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You have to know what peace is before you can have dialogue on it. Both parties are blinded by their religions so good luck with that. They have hated each other for over 3000 years. If you cant fix it in 3000 years I really don't think its happening anytime soon.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Grambler


And for some reason none of that mattered.

Yet the U.S. moving a building, that is a step too far.

Jerusalem is site of the (EDIT: Dome of the Rock), one of three Holy Sites in Islam. How did you expect them to react when it was made a Jewish Capital City?


Like adults?

Christians also view jersusalem as a holy city.

Were they too rioting and killing people because the U.S. is moving an embassy?

And also, if they are mad at Israel because they view Jerusalem as their capital, why do they only get enraged when the U.S. moves an embassy there ?
edit on 23-12-2017 by Grambler because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: pavil
And where is the Dome of the Rock located? What is the prior significance of that location .


You can do this! I know you can!


You referring to the first temple?
Or are you referring to when it was Canaanite land before King David stole it?

Oh I get it, historical claims to land only exist for Zionists... it all makes sense now.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Bluntone22


Using that criteria, the native Americans in America should lobbing rockets at New York City.




To put it succinctly, no.

Israel was created stolen by subjugation & terrorism...

You saying that Palestinians “never wanted peace in the first place” is shown to be with good reason, since there was absolutely no peace involved at the beginning from the Zionists who now tout peace as their goal.

I don’t see how people can’t understand resistance to this creation of terror.


The Arabs want the Jews dead...period.


All but one of Islam’s Prophets are Jewish.
So again, no.

It’s a nice Hasbara narrative though, it’s been cemented in the minds of many.


I'm afraid to ask, but what is your solution to the Arab Israeli conflict?



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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Ah the dome of the rock.. Don't forget the THIRD party interested!

Well we are on ATS , here is one of the EIGHT viewpoints of a nice UFO capture.
They say it has been debunked, unfortunatly i never seen that proof.




posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: Bluntone22


Using that criteria, the native Americans in America should lobbing rockets at New York City.




To put it succinctly, no.

Israel was created stolen by subjugation & terrorism...

You saying that Palestinians “never wanted peace in the first place” is shown to be with good reason, since there was absolutely no peace involved at the beginning from the Zionists who now tout peace as their goal.

I don’t see how people can’t understand resistance to this creation of terror.


The Arabs want the Jews dead...period.


All but one of Islam’s Prophets are Jewish.
So again, no.

It’s a nice Hasbara narrative though, it’s been cemented in the minds of many.


I'm afraid to ask, but what is your solution to the Arab Israeli conflict?


If I had a solution to the Arab-Zionist* conflict I’d be very, very powerful on the World stage, instead I’m sitting here on ATS.
edit on 23-12-2017 by Hazardous1408 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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There are 1 billion Palestinians?

Or did you just make all Muslims in the world Palestinians?




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