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Police tackle and arrest a Northwestern PhD student suspected of stealing a car

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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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I'm sick of seeing videos like this. I'm not a social justice warrior I promise you but I'm sick of our employees thinking they can do whatever they want.

It's about damn time we remind these people who they work for and what the constitution is AND why it exist!




The part that really disturbs me is when they police officer said that the 5th amendment doesn't apply here.

If your a police officer or a government employee it's not personal but your co-workers need to learn how to respect the people that employee them and protect our rights.

Do your job.
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults

It's about damn time we remind these people who they work for and what the constitution is AND why it exist!


You are are absolutely right.

Now just like you I'm going to go back to hanging out on my social media accounts.






edit on 23-12-2017 by CraftBuilder because: typos.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults
I want to be upset too, but I don't have a video to make me angry. Please to fix so that I may have my two minutes hate, thank you.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: CraftBuilder

originally posted by: toysforadults

It's about damn time we remind these people who they work for and what the constitution is AND why it exist!


You are are absolutely right.

Now just like you I'm going to go back to hanging out on my social media accounts.







I'm actually actively involved with my local city council.

You won't care until it happens to you.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults
ahh, he was black, that explains everything. The police are trained to see dark skin as a literal weapon with deadly intent, and therefore the aggression and hostility that always follows suit. Is it wrong that I was happy to be born with light colored skin??

Its funny, in my own life I have had to experience this first hand. On more than one occasion, and I won't go too into detail, but on more than one occasion I have been in a vehicle with up to six people in it where it was the dark skin person in the car that was actually the most honest and innocent of the group. They are always the first one asked to step out and interrogated.

That really does make me upset. But as a spic I have had my fair share of abusive dialogue and excessive force myself. So I am not immune either it seems. Just a typical day in North America. I like to laugh when they get all loud though, it just pisses them off and sets me up for an easy payday if they bite.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

I've had my own bad experiences on multiple occasions ranging from having a gun head to my head under the threat of death to someone being a total dbag for no reason and searching my car for 2 hours on a highway for no apparent reason and finding nothing.

White boy btw.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
You won't care until it happens to you.


I'm past the stage of caring. After years of my friends and associates looking at me like, or telling me straight up - Why not just do what they say instead of creating a confrontation? - I've given up trying to stand up for everyone's legal rights. Screw it. They can have the corrupt and dangerous police force they've chosen/deserve.




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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

"Stop resisting".......as 8 cops tackle you. At least he didn't get shot like that pest guy in the hotel.

If 4 squad cars came after a stolen car report in my town, I'd be shocked.

Well at least he'll get his doctorate paid now and then some.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: pavil

stolen car reports don't even get responded to where I'm at there is to many dead people showing up in rivers and drive by shootings they don't have time for stolen cars



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: CraftBuilder
How much more can you stand up for your rights outside of saying "I do not consent to this search, you do not have my permission." You want us to punch them in the face and die?

Seriously, everytime I am asked for a search, I turn them down. It does not stop them. they just search anyways, and then I turn to their dash cam, and repeat "I did not consent to this illegal search, your department does not have my permission for this illegal search" . There is literally nothing more you can do that that.

Now I did not hear them in the video ask him to step out. So that was on him, what was he expecting making the first move? I just grip the steering wheel tight and shut off my engine when I get pulled over and await the strings that make me dance. The best I can do is say "you do not have my permission" but it does not matter. If they want to search, they will search. Best not to make as stink if you want to go home.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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Things changed in '01.
The patriot act written into law because of foreign terrorists committing atrocities on american soil has made policy enforcement less helpful/more harmful to american citizens.

It's become policy to stand on our throats, not listen to what we have to say about why we did what we did.




posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: toysforadults
ahh, he was black, that explains everything. The police are trained to see dark skin as a literal weapon with deadly intent, and therefore the aggression and hostility that always follows suit. Is it wrong that I was happy to be born with light colored skin??


It's not as simple as that. Remember the "white" female nurse that got arrested by the cops just for doing her job?

This is a police training problem.

The police are incapable of making judgments about how threatening the situation is, and deliberately "escalate" the conditions unnecessarily.

They do this whenever they "judge" that their "victim" is too weak or poor to cause them serious repercussions.

You'd never see them handle Donald Trump that way.

If Trump ever got arrested, they'd take him standing upright. There would be no shoving Trump to the ground and handcuffing him with half a dozen cops.

That's a deliberate tactic to "humiliate" their victims. Police are "trained" to do this.

But, they only do it to certain folks, black, female, poor whites. Anyone that can't "fight back" for their rights in court.

So, it's not just a black thing.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:35 AM
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The part that really disturbs me is when they police officer said that the 5th amendment doesn't apply here.


Why would it have? There's a couple of exchanges that I can't entirely make out clearly, but I don't think anybody is asking him any questions and he's freely offering information. If somebody's got a transcript of the video and it shows that LE is trying to ask him incriminating questions, I'm all ears though.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: loveguy
Things changed in '01.
The patriot act written into law because of foreign terrorists committing atrocities on american soil has made policy enforcement less helpful/more harmful to american citizens.

It's become policy to stand on our throats, not listen to what we have to say about why we did what we did.



Yeah this sort of thing never happened before 9/11 or the Patriot Act...


What world are you living in?



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
I'm sick of seeing videos like this. I'm not a social justice warrior I promise you but I'm sick of our employees thinking they can do whatever they want.

It's about damn time we remind these people who they work for and what the constitution is AND why it exist!




The part that really disturbs me is when they police officer said that the 5th amendment doesn't apply here.

If your a police officer or a government employee it's not personal but your co-workers need to learn how to respect the people that employee them and protect our rights.

Do your job.



This case is fairly old. The cops were definitely in the wrong. However, a little context is always good. Just somewhat familiar with it and had interest since I've lived in Evanston and also a Northwestern alum. And also black.

Northwestern is located in Evanston, IL. It is a very wealthy, small suburb just north of Chicago on Lake Michigan. The community is uber liberal as well. It is like most college/university towns. Very vibrant with shopping and students. Houses along Lake Michigan can be in the 3-5 million. Basic starter homes are pushing $1 million to put things in perspective.

With that said, the community is very segregated with a fairly sizable "hood rat" population in a little pocket of the town. It also borders Chicago and that area of Chicago is also not all that great. Generally, crime among the nice part of the town is fairly low. However, when it does occur, it is generally linked back to the hood rat side of town.

In other words, when dealing with the largely white students, the crime is typically drunkenness, vandalism, etc. However, when dealing with the hood rat side of town, it is drugs, shootings, theft, car jacking, etc.

A do gooder neighbor reported the car being stolen. A lot of the student apartments and housing is interspersed among million dollar homes. When you live in upper income areas, people call the police if they see suspicious behavior or something looks out of place.

Looking out of place is not just being black, although it certainly can be a contributing factor. It was dark. It just looked like he was up to something hence why the neighbor called. This isn't a community where you will necessarily know what every neighbor looks like as it is very transient.

Where the cops went wrong is that they didn't simply pull him over like any other traffic stop and assess the situation. It would have been fairly easy and innocuous to know if he stole the car or not. Instead they went all Rambo from the start and my guess is because it happens so often, they just assumed it was a similar theft case.

This kid will have zero loans upon graduation.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

I am very mad at the left/BLM for selling this as if it is an only black issue..


I mean, it’s better than demonizing the pedestrian and pretending like we don’t have a problem at all like those on the right..


At least one side is attempting to address the topic rather than literally covering up for the offenders..



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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I am just your run of the mill white guy, and i have been attacked by cops on 3 occasions. All of which were mistaken identity. So.... as much as i know racism is alive and kicking, i also know that every hardship a black person faces is not because of racism.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
Instead they went all Rambo from the start and my guess is because it happens so often


This whole cop attitude will change in about 10 to 25 years.

People will arm themselves with security "drones".

When the cops pull over the car, the security "drones" with attached firearms will fly out the car windows and surround the cops.

The citizen will then step out of the car as ordered by the cops, but the cops won't be able to go near the citizen to push him to the ground.

Citizen Joe will inform the LEOs that the weaponized drones they see flying above them are his own "personal security" detail, and are programmed to automatically shoot to kill any threats to his person that is identified. Therefore the cops cannot draw their weapons, if they do, they get automatically "terminated". The cops also cannot come within six feet of citizen Joe either, or else the drones will open fire.

Now that Citizen Joe has been protected from harm, he can calmly ask the cops why they pulled him over. And, of course, being a duty-full citizen, he'll comply with any "lawful order" that the cops give him. But, the cops will have to engage him in a "dialog" before pushing and shoving him around.

He'll be able to provide his driver's license, car registration, and any documentation the cops want, all without going through any unnecessary "humiliation" just to prove his innocence.

The weaponized security drones will also protect Citizen Joe from LEO "impersonators" or even "gang members" who might be trying to car-jack his vehicle etc..

The technology already exists to implement this solution, but adoption is still a decade or two away.

These drones will solve all the issues while driving on the roadway.



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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:36 PM
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 12:41 PM
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People will arm themselves with security "drones".



And you don't think that law enforcement agencies wouldn't have something a bit better then a security drone?

Lol.




Do you think they will make those cool pew pew noises? That would be awesome.
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