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Europe’s migrants are here to stay

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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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I guess "Christians" in Europe need to do a better job selling Christianity.

Why be a Muslim if Christianity is far, far, superior?

Right?




posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 07:02 PM
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originally posted by: Kettu
I guess "Christians" in Europe need to do a better job selling Christianity.

Why be a Muslim if Christianity is far, far, superior?

Right?


Because apostates (those who leave Islam) could be sentenced to death? Some people don't like to die



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 07:06 PM
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Something I forgot to mention earlier, My landlord in Germany is Turkish, there are a number of folks in that small town from all across the Middle east.

They all are fluent in German have jobs and are part of the community, that is the key if they do not have jobs they will sit in their little enclaves and most likely never become German which leads to all the problems on both sides of the argument.

And the Lefts insistence that this does not matter is what gives more power to the extreme right, immigrants must become part of the community or you will always have bad blood and more division.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 07:07 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll


White supremacists will be bred out of existence. It won't be an issue.


You kinda imply that Europeans in general, are all White Supremacists? Care to clarify what you meant by that statement?



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: pavil




Hungary: We Will Make Our Country Family Friendly So Population Can Grow Without Mass Migration


www.breitbart.com...



Finally a European Country that can Address Important Social Issues Without Importing Them...........
edit on 23-12-2017 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: angeldoll


White supremacists will be bred out of existence. It won't be an issue.


You kinda imply that Europeans in general, are all White Supremacists? Care to clarify what you meant by that statement?


(I see. It is a comprehension problem.) There is no implication whatsoever that Europeans are racists in anything I wrote, in any of my posts, ever. I wasn't even talking about Europeans. I was speaking in general. Had you any level of understanding whatsoever you would have seen that. I said white supremacy would be wiped away from the planet, but alas, it's no good to explain anything to you as well as a waste of my good time.

But, I'm to understand this is the sentence you deliberately twisted that led to your inane and bogus faux outrage tirade covering two or three posts about me spewing racist garbage?
I just feel sorry for you now.
But I did learn something from you. Racism is in the eye of the beholder.

*shudders that I have engaged in such a stupid exchange.* Never again.
















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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:42 PM
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I dont begrudge the migrants for wanting into Europe, their countries are pretty bad.

But the fact the EU is trying to just shove millions of them into various countries without their permission because they refuse to enforce their borders (because even though EU law covers all the countries, each country is responsible for non-EU borders, and it's not like Slovenia has the resources to stop them) is just another ploy to increase control. They've now demonstrated that without common border security, they can't handle migrants. Which means you need an EU security apparatus. Which means not only are we getting an EU Army, we're now gonna get EU border patrol. Next thing after that will be EU police and, at that point, the EU will de facto be a single country.

They're almost there. They're really gonna do it. This is terrifying.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:01 PM
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Seems like your elected officials have decided there is no other policies than this to address Europe's aging population other than bringing in people from third world countries.


Seems like you dreamed up a different article and the "pro-active solutions" aint dubbed Fortress Europe for a reason. Our MICs are heavily funded for new projects like the good old FRONTEX mission, but you guys aint satisfied yet?

And then there's this:


Fewer refugees are arriving in Germany. Some 90,000 asylum-seekers came to the country in the first six months of 2017. German authorities expect a similar number for the second half of this year. That means that the number of new arrivals has dropped significantly compared to previous years. This does not, however, lighten the financial burden on local municipalities, which are still paying for the upkeep of refugee shelters — even though many remain vacant. In many cases, long-term property leases were agreed.

www.dw.com...

Also, there are restrictions in place when they apply for a job (Vorrangprüfung) and our increasingly fascist gubmint is eager to deport as many of them, asap.
Not much left to talk about now, is it?

Merry Christmyass to you, too!



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:09 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: pavil




Seems like your elected officials have decided there is no other policies than this to address Europe's aging population other than bringing in people from third world countries.


Seems like you dreamed up a different article and the "pro-active solutions" aint dubbed Fortress Europe for a reason. Our MICs are heavily funded for new projects like the good old FRONTEX mission, but you guys aint satisfied yet?



Care to elaborate on this? I'm not familiar with the terms in this paragraph to be honest.

So are you a fan of the increased immigration? I Take it you are a German Citizen?

It's your continent and countries......your choice what you do. Seems like it hasn't worked out as planned yet based on the unemployment numbers for migrants.

That's why I wanted European voices. Some countries over there aren't on board with Merkel's vision it seems.
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: angeldoll


White supremacists will be bred out of existence. It won't be an issue.


You kinda imply that Europeans in general, are all White Supremacists? Care to clarify what you meant by that statement?


(I see. It is a comprehension problem.) There is no implication whatsoever that Europeans are racists in anything I wrote, in any of my posts, ever. I wasn't even talking about Europeans. I was speaking in general. Had you any level of understanding whatsoever you would have seen that. I said white supremacy would be wiped away from the planet, but alas, it's no good to explain anything to you as well as a waste of my good time.

But, I'm to understand this is the sentence you deliberately twisted that led to your inane and bogus faux outrage tirade covering two or three posts about me spewing racist garbage?
I just feel sorry for you now.
But I did learn something from you. Racism is in the eye of the beholder.

*shudders that I have engaged in such a stupid exchange.* Never again.


















Good. You seem such a nice person. Merry Christmas. Have a great life.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:25 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: pavil




Hungary: We Will Make Our Country Family Friendly So Population Can Grow Without Mass Migration


www.breitbart.com...



Finally a European Country that can Address Important Social Issues Without Importing Them...........


Yes , that's one of the programs. Germany has been trying things since 2013 as well, like more money for parental leave and guaranteed a cess to childcare, without much success yet but it's early into the focus.

For example doubling the child tax credit in the U.S. should help younger families quite a bit. Not that it was designed to increase the birth rate but it's an example of a family friendly policy than can be implemented.

If you want your citizens to have more kids, unfortunately in the West you have to incentivize it for many. It's a tricky social policy to manipulate , thats for sure.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:40 PM
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So...

What I'm hearing is that Christians hate competition?



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:53 PM
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a reply to: Kettu

More like media induced ignorance and retardation.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 02:46 AM
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originally posted by: Kettu
So...

What I'm hearing is that Christians hate competition?


Christianity is falling into ill repute, while a more conservative, theocratic, intolerant, and dangerous religion fills the void. It’s not a cause for celebration, by any means.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 05:55 AM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Well as far as the UK is concerned "no faith" is the fastest growing demographic in the national census.
It will not be surprising if in 2021 they tip the 50% mark as the next generation dismiss sky god claims.
edit on 24-12-2017 by CornishCeltGuy because: typo



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: pavil

I'm a fan of human rights. You wanna end migration? Fine. We could talk about ending this Total War, now that Daesh is offcially defeated. How's that?

Frontex


Sealing its borders to immigrants costs Europe’s taxpayers billions of euro a year. Policy implementation is costly, and the public purse has opened wide for a few select contractors. The Migrants’ Files project names some of the economic winners from Europe’s closed-door immigration policy.

www.themigrantsfiles.com...

EUROPE’S PLAN TO CLOSE ITS SEA BORDERS RELIES ON LIBYA’S COAST GUARD DOING ITS DIRTY WORK, ABUSING MIGRANTS



It's your continent and countries......your choice what you do. Seems like it hasn't worked out as planned yet based on the unemployment numbers for migrants.


Worked out as planned ... how exactly?
It's not even Merkels vision, she doesn't have visions. She has the markets instead. And if you would actually read the links I'm posting, you could be able to understand why the unemployment number for refugeeez are likely to stay high for a few years.
Your theory is Bollocks, simple as that.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Its hilarious everyone thought Merkel and company were being naively altruistic with the migrants. They're no such thing - the whole thing has been a ploy to increase EU power.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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Migration is a great thing, It saves us all from interbreading. I just became a grandad to the first dark headed child in my family for a couple of generation all thanks to my Son hooking up with a girl of Chilean decent, Strange thing is, The child has dark hair and Blonde eyebrows, like a photo negative of Alister Darling.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: pavil

I'm a fan of human rights. You wanna end migration? Fine. We could talk about ending this Total War, now that Daesh is offcially defeated. How's that?

Frontex


Sealing its borders to immigrants costs Europe’s taxpayers billions of euro a year. Policy implementation is costly, and the public purse has opened wide for a few select contractors. The Migrants’ Files project names some of the economic winners from Europe’s closed-door immigration policy.

www.themigrantsfiles.com...

EUROPE’S PLAN TO CLOSE ITS SEA BORDERS RELIES ON LIBYA’S COAST GUARD DOING ITS DIRTY WORK, ABUSING MIGRANTS



It's your continent and countries......your choice what you do. Seems like it hasn't worked out as planned yet based on the unemployment numbers for migrants.


Worked out as planned ... how exactly?
It's not even Merkels vision, she doesn't have visions. She has the markets instead. And if you would actually read the links I'm posting, you could be able to understand why the unemployment number for refugeeez are likely to stay high for a few years.
Your theory is Bollocks, simple as that.




End immigration ? No. Is immigration a human right? Can we all just pack up and go anywhere on the globe we want without the permission of the host country? Bringing in people who don't have the job skills needed in your society and don't speak the language and don't share the same cultural norms? I think that's rather a stupid thing to do unless your society needs low end workers .

I wasn't a supporter of destroying Syria or Libya. It was and history so far has proven it to be a horrible idea. We are in agreement there. Nothing good came of it save for lots of dead radicals but at too great a cost to the people of Syria, Iraq and Libya.

Inviting all the refugees to Europe was just as stupid, IMO. There wasn't a plan other than , let's bring them in without any real vetting of them. What is the reason for such an increase in immigration? A pretty sizable chunk were just economic migrants with no skills ect, how do they help?

How is my theory Bollocks if you brought in Hundreds of thousands of refugees (mainly men so it seems) and you don't have jobs for them for what another 2 or 3 years , 5 years total? How stupid was that? Especially in the Strong headwinds of automation and globalization taking at least 20% of jobs in the near future? It's crazy you just let them stay at places like the Jungle at Calais and on the Streets of your cities. But again it's not my country. Do what you think is best. Hopefully it works out for you. Quite a few EU countries are having reservations and second thoughts about the whole thing.

Some immigration is good and productive if done to benefit your society. Unlimited immigration of those who don't speak the language, have few needed skills in the age of technology and don't have the same cultural norms is not a good recipe for success.

But I'm the crazy one fitting a square peg into a round circle......


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posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 06:00 PM
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Here's what I say about it. I have a video that has been banned on Facebook and YouTube numerous times already. Why? Because it is damning evidence that your media is lying to you. Of course, if you're a Liberal, you already knew that and just didn't want to accept it. We have all listened to the Mainstream Media, the ignorant Liberals who don't fact check, and believe that the MSM was sent to them as a messenger of God himself. We have all read biased articles that sway in the direction of Liberalism in one way or another. Fine, whatever...Now here is a VIDEO of actual migrants from various countries in the Middle East, invited by the leaders of Western countries that have adopted the "open borders" policy. Germany, France, Switzerland and Norway, just to name a few. The MSM News, articles from Liberals and all of that...we kind of have to take their word for it and trust that we are not being deceived. Well, we are being lied to and here's absolute proof.

Here is a montage of videos from News and Government sources that are drowned out by the Liberal media and it tells what's "REALLY" happening. It cannot be refuted, because these are the migrants themselves doing what we have always claimed they were going to do. Infiltrate, destroy, kill, abuse, oppress and abuse women, and outright admit their plans to not only take over the nations of France, Germany, Switzerland (and any other country that they migrate to)...but to conquer it by impregnating (by force or volunteerism) the women of said countries, and growing their numbers until all that were initially in the country are gone.

Some may say, "I'm not going to watch the video, because it's going to be just another isolated incident", and you couldn't be further from the truth. You want numbers? They're in here for you to witness, along with all of the other (now verified) accusations aforementioned earlier in the post.


The Middle Eastern Migrant crisis that the Mainstream Media would not dare show you. All video evidence.
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