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More than 4 in 5 enrolled in ‘Obamacare’ are in Trump states

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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:04 PM
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Trump's flip flopping on health care has been astounding. Anyone remember this?


www.youtube.com...

He's gone from promising universal health care to promising to repeal and replace Obamacare to promising to sabotage Obamacare to declaring Obamacare to have been repealed just because the individual mandate was repealed. Where does all that leave Trump if he runs for reelection in 2020?

All the Democratic candidate will need to do is promise universal health care like Trump did last time. In fact, the Democratic candidate can copy pretty much all of Trump's memes such as "Drain the swamp" and "Lock him [Trump] up" to prove how different they are from Trump.

It would be a glorious finish to the greatest reality TV show ever made...The Trump White House.


An Associated Press analysis of new figures from the government found that 7.3 million of the 8.8 million consumers signed up so far for next year come from states Trump won in the 2016 presidential election. The four states with the highest number of sign-ups — Florida, Texas, North Carolina and Georgia, accounting for nearly 3.9 million customers — were all Trump states.

“There’s politics, and then there’s taking care of yourself and your family,” said analyst Chris Sloan of the consulting firm Avalere Health. “You can have political views about a program like the Affordable Care Act, but when you get an opportunity to get subsidized health insurance for you and your family … politics is a distant consideration.”

AP’s analysis found that 11 states beat 2017’s enrollment figures. Of them, eight —Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming— went for Trump, who posted double-digit victories in all but Iowa.
www.twincities.com...

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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: antiantonym

Lol.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:08 PM
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Oh, the irony.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: antiantonym

Let them lose healthcare. They earned it with their votes.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:21 PM
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lol so the ACA was so effective that 4 out of 5 enrolled in the country for next year are in a total of 4 states? something aint adding up and it should be quite obvious by those numbers, especially since california aint on that list
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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:32 PM
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More than 4 in 5 enrolled in ‘Obamacare’ are in Trump states


Yeah? And Trump won. When Obama "pushed Obama care" into place, people found out pretty fast why he wasn't a good leader. He took a dump on the working class by doing that. He made it mandatory. People also didn't like that. So the people learned their lesson about who to support facing a debacle such as that. That is why they voted for Trump.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:49 PM
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a reply to: antiantonym

The article sure is vague.
No links to the numbers.

Did they add in the 11 states and D.C. that have their own healthcare exchanges?
All federaly subsidized oh course.

California and New York are in that 11.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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Probably because they are poor and cannot afford to pay the individual mandate tax penalty. Without the penalty they would not enroll in ACA plan like before ACA was enacted.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 09:55 PM
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originally posted by: decr422o
Probably because they are poor and cannot afford to pay the individual mandate tax penalty. Without the penalty they would not enroll in ACA plan like before ACA was enacted.


thats one thing that people should be standing up and cheering for. no more penalty for being too poor to afford the plans, a fun self fulfilling prophecy that any moron should have been able to see and strike down instantly for the good of the american people and constitution



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 10:02 PM
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Sooo, the Dems are boycotting Obamacare? I guess they're smarter than I thought.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 10:14 PM
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A morose premise.

People enroll when they see the benefits of not paying the penalty.

We offer 4 plans. One of them is a bare minimum plan to keep you from paying the penalty while paying the least monthly. Its about $32 a paycheck for a single employee. Because we had a lot of folks who wouldnt participate if it were more expensive.

My hope is we keep moving to HSA structures and replace insurance with collective discount bargaining, paid by HSA accounts funded with matching amounts from employers



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 10:18 PM
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Those four states were the top four, not the only four. 8 million new people enrolled in Obamacare this year. 4/5, or around 6.4 million, were from states Trump won.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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Those four states were the top four, not the only four. 8 million new people enrolled in Obamacare this year. 4/5, or around 6.4 million, were from states Trump won.


Because you still get fined for not having it. What is hard to understand about that?



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: antiantonym

A morose premise.


According to my research, Trump started promising universal health care on September 27, 2015.

www.cbsnews.com...

There is no way to know how many votes Trump gained with that promise, but he'll almost certainly lose them all in 2020.

There's another key point that almost no Republicans are considering. The amount that people will save in tax cuts from the latest tax law could be easily eclipsed by the higher insurance premiums that will probably happen as a result of the individual mandate being repealed.

Democrats should have an easy victory if Trump runs for reelection. All they need to do is repeat what Trump promised about health care last time. Trump is completely stuck on the issue from now on. He has no more wiggle room without a miracle.
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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 10:55 PM
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There is no way to know how many votes Trump gained with that promise, but he'll almost certainly lose them all in 2020.


Give him time. He has not been in office a year yet. He got the tax bill passed. He has 7 more years to get the rest done. It doesn't happen over night, especially when you have to deal with the never Trump establishment.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 11:00 PM
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Uh? which came first the chicken or the egg.

Obamacare has been around a lot longer than ''Trump' States.


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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 11:02 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: antiantonym

The article sure is vague.
No links to the numbers.

Did they add in the 11 states and D.C. that have their own healthcare exchanges?
All federaly subsidized oh course.

California and New York are in that 11.


Fake news. Biggest blue states dont close obamacare enrollment until january. They dont use the fed exchange. Have their own. Article written by butthurt publication.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 11:05 PM
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Shhhh....a little info regarding those numbers. If a person signs up to access the healthcare site , they are considered enrolled for the numbers
Makes it look more popular to ignorant folks.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 11:07 PM
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I taped up a gash in my side today.
Four-wheeler accident.
I have no health insurance and can't afford a doctor.
Now I will have another cool scar.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 11:28 PM
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a reply to: skunkape23

27% who sign up drop ocare within 6 months. Big surgery and cancel... or cant make payments.




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