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Other ways to spend 1.5 trillion dollars other than giving it to the top 1 percent

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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:00 PM
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originally posted by: mikell
Build the wall and save 13 BILLION a year to pay for other things. It's a business investment for my grandkids future. Get it??




I don't get it...

Seems like e verify being mandatory is a lot cheaper...




posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: mikell
Build the wall and save 13 BILLION a year to pay for other things. It's a business investment for my grandkids future. Get it??




The wall will never be built. To many lawsuits from people that own the land, ranchers that water their stock in the Rio Grande. The attorneys are making out like bandits on the contractors hired to build the wall; flyby night BS artists with bogus credentials, some of their prototypes blew down in a stiff wind... It's a proper cluster ****
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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: dfnj2015

You have sorta missed a major point. Its not your fault. It isn't discussed anywhere much in either MSM or the alternative media.

The point is that at the end of the day, the US is presently insolvent. Those are all nice spending ideas, but.......in the end throwing all that money into those projects may feel good, but the great likelihood is they'll never get finished.

See: www.theamericanconservative.com...


According to the U.S. Debt Clock, we’re at nearly $21 trillion in debt, and the number increases so quickly that seizures might very well result.



As Tom Woods and all sensible economists have recently claimed, the United States of America is simply insolvent. The only shocking thing is that no one in the mainstream media or financial institutions seems to care.


Sorry to rain on your parade.


The United States isn't insolvent and no 'sensible economist' claims it is.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Let me ask ya' sumthin'?

Let's pretend that we just go to work because that's what makes the world go 'round.

Granted there will be a small percentage of those unwilling to do their part or perhaps unable to work in one way or another, I'd say around 1%.

See where I'm going here? 99% of people are willing to work so that the world will go 'round, 1% rides the benefit we bestow upon them.

It's twisted backwards and perverted out of context.

The way I see things anyhoo.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: loveguy




Let's pretend that we just go to work because that's what makes the world go 'round.


I like this idea! You pretend to pay me and I'll pretend to work.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:21 PM
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How can you give something to someone when it's their's in the first place?

Do any of you actually know any 1%'rs personally?

They worked hard for what they got.

Everyone tries to take advantage.




posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot
Would GAO fall under 'sensible'?

That office has been sounding insolvency alarms for the past couple of years.

Between the US gov's abysmal spending habits, and the archaic debt ceiling limitations, the US is never actually that far from insolvency. That is why it dominates the news cycle every year.

What no sensible economist has claimed is that the US will go bankrupt. Unable to meet immediate financial obligations (insolvency), very possible. Unable to continue operations and must shut it all down (bankruptcy), extremely unlikely.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: peck420

Applying a debt ceiling is a voluntary decision , choosing not to make payments is not the same as being insolvent.

The US can easily meet its payment obligations if it chooses to.

Archaic is a good description however.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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isn`t that 1.5 trillion over 10 years? how much did the last administration increase the debt in just it`s first year? I believe it was 1 trillion? and almost 10 trillion in 8 years? so 1.5 trillion in 10 years is a bargain compared to the last occupant of the white house.

107 years of children’s health insurance funding: $1.5 trillion , how did you come to that figure? I don`t believe it`s possible to determine how much health insurance will increase or decrease 50 years from now, or 100 years from now or 107 years from now. maybe there won`t even be health insurance 50 years or 100 years from now.
if the democrats get their way all health care will be government paid for in 10 years so will the out of business insurance companies give back 97 years of prepaid premiums if things go the way democrats want them to?
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:21 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

or, they could have just not given any tax cuts, and started going through that budget of theirs looking for ways to decrease the spending, and maybe cut down the debt some??
but as it is now, when they try to convince us to sacrifice our social security checks and medicare, along with a whole mess of other stuff.... it just won't be as convincing.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:50 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

You are a funny one. With all due respect but you don't get it. Free equals entitlements which equals a socialist society. We are not socialists here in America but one might think so, I see you do. Free (entitlements) is how we got to where we are along with high tax rates sir. So no to free college. Erase student debts? Why do that? Those that chose to go to college knew the price they were paying and would that be fair to those that did pay their college loan or those that chose to not go to college and now would be paying for those that did? No and you know it. 107 years of children's health coverage. Why do that, can't their parent pay and would that be fair to those that do not have children? Silly! Fight global warming? Tell me what they would do with that money to fight global warming. Natural disasters, isn't that why we pay exuberant amounts of money for insurance, this being said for private property and for infrastructure the government will cover just as they always have. Do we need 15 new space stations? lol my friend. And your last line makes the most sense out of all your ideas. Not to pick on you but these ideas are bad ideas. And keep in mind with the economy purring like it is and will be even more with the new tax bill more taxes will be coming in and will pay for things like infrastructure upgrades and the like. We had to get taxes where they obviously need to be as EVERY American will benefit from it. Good day and no disrespect to you.




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