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Protests in Sweden as Gang rapes increase

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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 04:17 AM
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Liberals, the source of what made Sweden so great and now the source of its downfall trying to keep the same ideals while having a cultural landslide.

Sweden for me as I've grown up was always noted as THE place to live, life was warm and idyllic, people cared for each other and families blossomed, it was the real life advert for everything beautiful. Sadly epic immigration brought people from many countries whose cultures differ to a tremendous degree, this mixed with a long term belief system that in extreme countries demands that non believers are suitable for death or expulsion (oddly death seems to be the chosen one).

Its a mix that would struggle anywhere but in Sweden its been a cultural darkening of the skies and Swedish people initially just tried to carry on as 'the beautiful people', Sweden would not be changed, when it became obvious to the governments that this wasn't working they started to change systems, remove reporting and generally go on with life while certain people were tearing away at the peaceful norm.

Look die hard Liberals, you can put your head in the sand or fudge numbers to suit but the WORLD has seen the horrendous animal that is Radical Islam (NOTE RADICAL...Again RADICAL). The peoples in these Radical dominated places have lived under the same barbaric culture for so long its part of their life, women prostrate themselves in front of men because the men have made their life hell, the whole adjusted belief system is about men being the dominant part and Radical Islam MUST be obeyed. These are people who live mostly through war against each other and instead of thriving countries they are pockets of people torn apart. To see a child being handed a big knife to attack the throat of a captured rebel just made me sick but that is the nature of a lot of these people.

Where ever Radical Islam lands there's violence and hatred, sadly the most worrying thing is that it finds its own and forms communities but unlike folk who form communities in a foreign country just so they have someone familiar these folk do it to push their way by expanding the community.

I see people deny figures about sexual assaults but just look at the places these men are coming from, don't you find it alarming that women in these countries cannot even dare report an assault in case they are killed, where 4 men must agree the woman was raped and then SHE gets to still be punished. Sexual assault in these countries basically isn't allowed to be dealt with because the male population rule against it BUT YET, you liberals pretend the same men from the same countries arriving in Sweden won't carry on the same abuse, but what is worse, you lot then try and hide it away as if they are back home...What the hell is wrong with you..

So, what to do, the problem here isn't options, its having the balls to act on these options. Who want's to dare take on this cultural # storm and not try to annoy some. It makes me laugh because its so sad, I've not used the word Muslim up till now just so people didn't jump on the bandwagon but if you actually asked normal Muslims if they agree with these radicals then you would get a majority NO, they themselves don't want these horrendous practices here or in Sweden, they usually just want to live normal peaceful lives.

But there's the false elephant in the room, people are trying NOT to insult Muslims when dealing with this issue but they are looking in the wrong direction, its the Radicals who always get away with it while every one is looking at normal Muslims. Is every Muslim perfect, hell no, no more than any other religion, there's always small numbers that cause issues but its the Islamists who support all these savage practices, start targetting them, make them unwelcome because of these practices, child and sexual abuse isn't welcome, nor is attacking your wife because some horrible old degenerate in Yemen says its good to beat your wife.

Its about time people made it clear to Islamists here in our countries that your way of life ISN'T wanted here, its contrary to ours, our culture has evolved over these hundreds and thousands of years, Radical Islam has not, its about time you realised that the culture in the West in general does not like what you do and don't want it here, its stuff from a bygone era where violence and hatred ruled.

And yes, there are Muslims who would happily agree that they don't want these things, they themselves have evolved..
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 04:34 AM
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Its about time people made it clear to Islamists here in our countries that your way of life ISN'T wanted here, its contrary to ours


You have absolutely no right, to say this to anyone, anywhere. People are free to live their life, they way they please ... believe in santa clause, if they please.

However, and this is important ... if my senile mother talks about things that aren't there, we put her in a home. But, Islamists ... talking about Allah, Christians about God and Jews, believing they're Santa's elves ...

Sorry, to say this ... but it's even more "demented", than my demented mother is.

And, we're about to allow these delusional people to control our future ... that's what this is about.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 04:47 AM
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I had to register for this thread, because I am getting a bit tired of the few personal experiences expressed here on ATS when it comes to the happenings in Scandinavia.

Well I am from Denmark, so my look on this will be that of a dane and not of a swede, but I thought it could be interesting anyway. We are very different fortunately. Right now we here in Denmark are follwing what is happening in Sweden with quite a lot of confusion.

We do not have the same problems here, as we have been very open about the problems that comes with immigrants. We do have no go zones of course, but they are few and small, and we do have rapes too done by immigrants, but not too many, not like in Sweden.

From what I have heard from freinds living in Malmø is that it is really quite bad there. It is not just rape, but granates and shootings too and more.

One of my freinds, who is a muslim himself and who moved to Denmark 30 years ago and then to Sweden, when he couldent get his wife to Denmark, tells me, that his wife can't go in the streets whitout a hijab or else she will get harassed, because she is a muslim. He dares not to let his children play in the streets, as it is too dangerous. He also very much wants his children to learn swedish, but as it is right now they talk arabic in the kindergarden because everyone does, even those that works there.

There is so many things going on in Sweden that shouldn't be and you will not hear about it in the news...well maybe here in Denmark, but not in Sweden.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 07:50 AM
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originally posted by: links234
a reply to: SR1TX

There are people in this thread saying they've spoken with regular, everyday citizens of Sweden who say there is no 'rape crisis.' Who are you going to believe? The people who make these videos or the people who live there? You're being lied to and it's so sad to see.


Well we have people from Sweden and the surrounding area saying this is a problem in this very thread.

That is backed up by the government stats.

So it appears you were being lied to.


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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:49 AM
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Are you that lazy to just click on the sources at the bottom of a wikipedia article? Because you can't just roll your face on a keyboard and publish wikipedia you know.

Also, you are grasping at straws.
The last crime statistics released by the government of Sweden was in 2013, OFFICIAL, and it was on a decline.

I get it, you want to spread fear and hate so the white nations of the world remain white. And you wonder why people call far right ideologists fascists.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Grambler

Are you that lazy to just click on the sources at the bottom of a wikipedia article? Because you can't just roll your face on a keyboard and publish wikipedia you know.

Also, you are grasping at straws.
The last crime statistics released by the government of Sweden was in 2013, OFFICIAL, and it was on a decline.

I get it, you want to spread fear and hate so the white nations of the world remain white. And you wonder why people call far right ideologists fascists.
You are a racist plain and simple. A cleat cut example of projection and transference. You hate white people and seek their extinction and cheer it. And you even want to transfer your hate and motives onto us.

When your ideology completes it's vision the end game is the end of white culture because there will be no more white people? Is that correct? That makes you a malicious, hateful bigot seeking to cause divisions among people. Your world obviously orbits around hate and bigotry and your transference is felt and recognized as hot air.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: bulwarkz

So me wanting inclusion instead of exclusion means I am a racist? isn't that the opposite?

I am advocating against the clear intention of this thread, to blame a certain group of people for certain crimes, and people gobble it up. Instead of fact checking, and sourcing links they just go along with it like penguins jumping into the waters.

I also LOVE the hypocrisy in your post, accusing me of projection, when you projected onto me what you think my standpoint and political ideology is and standpoint of 'white' genocide or racist against whites, what ever that means, I don't even believe in race, it's an old colonial term that doesn't even fit in todays world. Someone else started this thread, not me.
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: Painterz
I'm not seeing this story reported anywhere other than the usual alt-right media pages.

Fake?


Or is it possible the MSM has an agenda in NOT making these stories common knowledge because it does not promote the social engineering indoctrination that they are promoting???



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Grambler

Are you that lazy to just click on the sources at the bottom of a wikipedia article? Because you can't just roll your face on a keyboard and publish wikipedia you know.

Also, you are grasping at straws.
The last crime statistics released by the government of Sweden was in 2013, OFFICIAL, and it was on a decline.

I get it, you want to spread fear and hate so the white nations of the world remain white. And you wonder why people call far right ideologists fascists.


Why are last stats from 2013? It is end of 2017 so data for 2016 should be cleared and ready for presentation.

What is Sweden strategy with people who simply do not want to assimilate? I do not think it is majority of newcomers but they are clearly not able to distance self from radicals. What are you doing in this field? Or do you perceive radical Islam as threat at all?

And what we will do with that scum returning from ISIS service? Will they turn into plumbers, doctors or teachers?
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

I linked to the official BRA numbers which go until 2016.

These numbers use the official Sweden crime and victimization survey.

You can even click on that link to get an excel sheet of the exact number of reported crimes for dates from 2016 going back decades.

You willingness to ignore this and scream fake news speaks volumes.

I do not want to demonize all Muslims or refugees. I think that lying or ignoring problems will end up hurting people in these groups that are great people in the long run.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Yes, we know what the statistics say. The problem is that you did not read your own sources.

Go back and read the section on "reported offenses" at the BRA link.

See anything important there that completely changes the validity of your narrative?
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Grambler

Yes, we know what the statistics say. The problem is that you did not read your own sources.

Go back and read the section on "reported offenses" at the BRA link.

See anything important there that completely changes the validity of your narrative?


Nope.

Are you referring to the change in definition occured in 2006 but magically didn't start effecting numbers until 2012?

Makes sense.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:24 AM
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a reply to: pointessa

This is a state run media news agency for Australia lol



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 11:26 AM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: pointessa

This is a state run media news agency for Australia lol


So I'm other words, they are russian!!!

Damn those Russians!!!



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: Painterz
Rape is not a bigger problem in sweden than anywhere else in the world.


This narrative of immigrants being responsible for a rape crimewave across Sweden is entirely fictional, made up by the American alt-right, none of whom have apparently ever been to Europe, let alone Sweden.


Sweden is a very safe country. Don't believe the lies and propaganda being put out by the usual Islamophobic suspects.



So you're telling us this, and then we have a Swedish cop on facebook telling us different.

Talk about narratives..



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: bulwarkz

And what exactly is "white culture?" The alt-right constantly use that hilarious concept as a dogwhistle for white supremacy, and it never gets less funny. Culture isn't based on skin colour.



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Grambler

I'm not crying fake news.

But did you know that in Sweden you can simply just go to a police station and say you were raped and or sexually assaulted and it will be counted as a 'incident'? Funny how that works when Sweden actually has less refugees than Switzerland and Canada, which rank low on the charts. Yet you seem to focus only on Sweden.


So you are claiming thousands of women are making up stories about being sexually assaulted?

Wow.


To me that says Strong thinks that we should give the accusers the benefit of doubt on thousands of sexual assualt accusations. I suspect there was a special exception for Judge Moore who didn't rape anybody will not get the benefit of doubt. All that with doctored evidence tarnishing their claims of misdeeds by Moore?



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

If they dont know how to respond then maybe they need to suffer this until they have a revelation on what to do.

Good luck I say. Maybe learn to think outside your comfort zone....



posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: ShadeWolf

I agree completely. Culture is not based on race (from genetic point of view is race nonsense concept).

So what is "white culture"? Or better to ask what is Europe? It is tolerance of opposing views. But newcomers are often not able to tolerate our way of life. For example pork in school kitchens ... or girls in bikini.
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posted on Dec, 23 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Grambler

Are you that lazy to just click on the sources at the bottom of a wikipedia article? Because you can't just roll your face on a keyboard and publish wikipedia you know.

Also, you are grasping at straws.
The last crime statistics released by the government of Sweden was in 2013, OFFICIAL, and it was on a decline.


I'm not sure if I would trust official statistics put out by the same government that invited the immigrants, and therefore stands to be embarassed if the statistics don't support their decision.




I get it, you want to spread fear and hate so the white nations of the world remain white. And you wonder why people call far right ideologists fascists.


Successful Islamic nations , such as Kuwait, aren't opening their doors to European immigration.

People naturally get concerned when they see government being over generous on their behalf, and it is apparent that this generosity will only be a one way street.

Sweden has nothing to gain here.




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