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originally posted by: antiantonym
News like this makes me feel like we're really just monkies with advanced communication skills. Millions of people all over the world dream about living in the most advanced country in the world where someone like Roy Moore almost became a U.S. senator, where rape victims can be barred from abortions by religious nuts, and where millions of religious fanatics would be delighted to turn their country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia. This news story is a little taste of that.
Court blocks illegal immigrant teen from demanding abortion services from feds while in custody after she crossed the border pregnant
Court on Friday delayed immediate abortion for girl, 17, being held in Texas
Judges ruled illegal immigrant can't demand abortion services from feds
But will allow her to seek a private sponsor to help her obtain the abortion
The girl entered the US alone in September and is 15 weeks pregnant
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: antiantonym
I read the title and thought "what the hell kind of third-world country is denying abortions to rape victim refugees?"
I totally wasn't expecting this to be about the US.
originally posted by: the owlbear
originally posted by: watchitburn
Why should US taxpayers foot the bill for her abortion?
If she's in federal detention, it sounds like she's an illegal immigrant to me. Calling her a "refuge" doesn't entitle her to my tax dollars.
Over the wall!
Considering you make far more than I do, yet my taxes are a pinch and I am of the more numerous lower class...my tax dollars are paying you to bitch about your tax dollars in a disproportionate level.
So who's opinion is more valid?
originally posted by: the owlbear
originally posted by: DrStevenBrule
a reply to: antiantonym
Illegal immigrants should not be given abortions on tax payer dime.
So the kid is born here and becomes a us citizen. Then you have to support the whole family.
Awesome logic there, chief.
originally posted by: Xtrozero
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: antiantonym
I read the title and thought "what the hell kind of third-world country is denying abortions to rape victim refugees?"
I totally wasn't expecting this to be about the US.
Are we calling those that enter our country illegally from Mexico "refugees" now? She came here 15 weeks pregnant, was she a rape victim? Are you going to pay for it? She just needs a sponsor ...
originally posted by: antiantonym
I consider both Clinton and Moore to be innocent until proven guilty in court. I was referring to Moore's beliefs about slavery, the U.S. Constitution, and women.
He was the first sitting president ever to testify before a grand jury investigating his conduct. That evening, President Clinton also gave a four-minute televised address to the nation in which he admitted he had engaged in an inappropriate relationship with Lewinsky.
In late July, 1998, Lewinsky turned the dress over to Kenneth Starr's investigators after signing an immunity agreement. A blood sample was taken from Clinton on August 3, and on August 17, the FBI reported its conclusion that Clinton was the source of the semen on the dress.
originally posted by: Abysha
This is a money issue for you?
If it were a money issue, why not just say "we won't pay for it" instead of effectively barring her from seeking medical care?
Besides, why aren't you complaining about the financial impact of forcing her to keep it which will cost more in delivery than abortion not to mention the cost of raising a rapist's offspring.
originally posted by: jimmyx
HEARING ANYTHING from those here bitching about "mah tax dallahs" being used to help someone else, should be met with sarcastic laughter
originally posted by: geezlouise
a reply to: intrptr
I don't know much about it but also just now thinking about it, there's a baby being born in the united states... born in poverty, another mouth to feed, another body to take care of. IDK much but that sounds pretty costly to me. Who gonna feed and clothe the children being born? But, since it's born in the united states... it's a citizen?
originally posted by: dawnstar
if she could find a qualified sponsor, she wouldn't be detained any longer but as long as she was in their detention center, there would be no abortion is pretty much what they were saying, money had nothing to do with it!
originally posted by: dawnstar
heck she probably would have had an anchor baby long before she would have been heading back home!
but my point was, that it didn't cost the taxpayers any money for her to get the abortion, it was all supplied by other means... outside of the costs of all the court costs the gov't incurred trying to prevent her from having it...
where rape victims can be barred from abortions by religious nuts, and where millions of religious fanatics would be delighted to turn their country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia.
where rape victims can be barred from abortions by religious nuts, and where millions of religious fanatics would be delighted to turn their country into a Christian version of Saudi Arabia.