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Is the British NHS breaking EU LAW (Article 35)relating to the rights of citizens to health care?

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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 05:15 AM
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Here is a letter I have written to the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt. Sorry, I am too upset to express it in any other way than the letter.

"Dear Jeremy Hunt MP Health Secretary,

I am writing to inform you of the severe issues with NHS services in Penzance, Cornwall.

I have an acute bipolar life time bipolar condition and am receiving absolutely no support any longer. When I tried to access support I was treated very badly by the desk, totally unprofessionally in fact. That is Bolitho House. Please check the reviews they get as evidence that this is not just happening to me. I was told that I must be ok because I could express myself over the phone by the desk CPN, who I know has treated others with the same contempt.

Today I had an appointment at Sunnyside Surgery in Penzance. The Nurse told me I had "life threatening asthma" and should be assessed. I tried to make an appointment under the nurse's advice and the receptionist said she could not give me an appointment as they are booked up to the 17th January and she is not allowed to book appointments any further in the future than that, so as it stands I have a severe life threatening health condition that is not being treated and I am not being given access to to health; ACTUALLY BEING RATIONED AND DENIED TREATMENT. Only two weeks ago I nearly died from an asthma attack and a paramedic had to be called. The health service here is literally playing Russian Roulette with MY LIFE. Is that agreeable to you, Sir?

Is this legal? Please refer to fra.europa.eu... ARTICLE 35. It appears that the NHS in Cornwall is acting illegally:

"Everyone has the right of access to preventive health care and the right to benefit from medical treatment under the conditions established by national laws and practices. A high level of human health protection shall be ensured in the definition and implementation of all Union policies and activities."

your's sincerely,

Michael XXXXXX"

Is the UK breaking EU LAW ARTICLE 35? Seems like they are to me.


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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 05:28 AM
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Law or now law, if a doctor isn't available, that's life. Sorry to hear about your condition, but this is where limited immigration comes into place. Saw in in Miami back in the 60's. Free health care for the Cuban, yet the blacks in Mississippi had no a little health care.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 05:34 AM
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If it is that bad you need to go to your local A&E and see what they will do

You are not gettting anywhere writing a letter or posting on here



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 05:36 AM
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Aren't you leaving the EU? Tough luck



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 05:46 AM
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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 06:02 AM
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Maybe if we didn't have so many EU Nationals clogging up our system you would get an appointment. Better off out.
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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 06:04 AM
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I work in the NHS and the reason for this is to keep waiting lists low! If they don't open the lists then the wait can't be recorded longer than it.....they therefore meet their targets
It's awful, I have been in your position and it's crazy.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 06:34 AM
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The result of years of underfunding health care in this country.

Hope you get the treatment you need soon. Good luck.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: Whereismypassword

In fact he is doing the correct thing with writing a letter as it gives a paper trail that could be used later if needed...


Back to the OP,

Mate the NHS is f#cked, it is fairly clear it is being setup to fail as they want Private firms to control this sector. I would have to wait 2+ weeks to see my GP and I am based on the London Essex boarder, this type of thing is common now.


When my wife had our son I was shocked to my f#cking core with the treatment and you could see that staff that where doing things the correct way where being treated unfairly (Happened to our mid wife who battled tooth and nail for us)...

The NHS, Police, Fire etc etc are all just having cracks covered over.

Good luck fella and well done..


RA


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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 06:45 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

I sent the letter to these people:

mb-sofs@dh.gsi.gov.uk (Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt)
healthcare@theguardian.com,
sarah.johnson@theguardian.com

and all these South West MEPs (European Parliament):

mep@williamdartmouth.com,
ashley.fox@europarl.europa.eu,
julia.reid@ukip.org,
julie.girling@europarl.europa.eu,
clare@claremoodymep.com,
office@mollymep.org.uk

As an attempt to try and survive over the period I am not allowed access to health care I have also sent this mail to them all:

"date: Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 12:12 PM
subject: Re: NHS Services in Penzance are abusing the community.
mailed-by: gmail.com

To All Recipients.

If I do die between now and when I can get access to tratement there will be a legal issue and you will all have known about this abuse in advance. It will be a big problem then for you all, too as it is a big problem to me not knowing if I will be alive by the time I can access treatment.

Here we have a case of a person who is bipolar being denied access to mental health services ad acute physical health services. Do you not see how disgusting my treatment to day was? One second I was told I needed instant health assessment and I walk round the corner of the building to be told I can not have it and that there is no room for me in the forseeable future. Is this CIVILIZED? You must ask yourselves that question and live with the consequences because be sure it will be the police coming to talk to you about me next if I do die. They will see how I tried to ask for help and was denied it.

I dread to think what Britain will become post exit from the EU. If it is flouting law already then I don't think this bodes well for the future, do you?"

I have written a note in a brown envelope to be opened by the police if I die suddenly which I will keep in clear view. There is a real chance I could die, you see. I have left the information here on ATS, too.

They will all be implicated if indeed the law is seen to have been broken and I die as a result of denial of access to health care. They all now know in advance. I am making arrangements to haunt them from the grave if it ends up like that. I have told the Guardian editors, too, so a quality newspaper is also aware of this.

I am not doing this for me really. I don't personally care whether I live or die any way. I am doing this so that may be it will help other people. I care about their lives and would gladly use my # life to make a point, believe it.

This is England 2017, folks.

Happy Christmas!

Hohoho!




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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 06:49 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

Raise with your local MP too, you'll have a few so either write to a few of them or pick one that'll most likely champion your cause.

Local news might be interested too?

Regardless of what you do though your health should come first. Go to A&E they should sort something out for you, you're at risk and you needn't be.

Sad isn't it?

Some moan about people going to A&E for things GP's should be sorting... Quite often it's the only realistic option. Like now, don't risk it. You'll be given an emergency prescription.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 06:49 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

Revolution9,

Terminology and how it is applied, are everything here.

No, the NHS is doing absolutely nothing wrong here at all. They are doing what can be done with the resources they have been allocated, and as such cannot be chastised.

Jeremy Hunt and the government at his back however, CAN be chastised here, because it is their serial underfunding, their ideological opposition to the existence of the NHS, which has lead them to deliberately hobble the service, which, when funded correctly and protected from the predatory nature of those businesses which supply it with drugs and equipment, functions perfectly.

Successive centre right (New Labour 1997-2010) and right wing (Conservatives 2010 onward) governments have deliberately scuppered this countries public services, including the NHS, in order to justify selling them off to the highest bidder. THAT is the problem, and the only thing that can cure it, is placing in charge of the matters pertaining to that service, a person whose staunch objection to running the service like a business, rather than running it like a national institution, will cause them to banish the bean counters, get money flowing in from central government to the NHS to heal it, so that the organisation can heal the country.

Jeremy Hunt and Theresa May, and the pricks who came before them, are the problem here, because it is their fundamental inability to accept that the NHS and other public services, are supposed to be owned and run by and for the people, not for profit, not as businesses.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

Phone your doctor's surgery.

I have had emergency prescriptions in the past, just don't take no for an answer.

Often the receptionist will blab on about policy, insist on speaking to a doctor. The least you must do is demand a prescription to be made today that can be collected today.

They will do it, especially if it's an emergency.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:11 AM
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Are you able to pay cash and see a private physician in your country? I know if I am not happy with a hurdle my insurance puts in place I simply bypass them and pay cash to expedite whatever care I need.

One example was my insurance company wanted me to jump through six months of BS before I could get a procedure I needed. I told them to sod off and was able to pay cash to get it done the same week.

The free market can be a wonderful thing.


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posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 08:10 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
Are you able to pay cash and see a private physician in your country? I know if I am not happy with a hurdle my insurance puts in place I simply bypass them and pay cash to expedite whatever care I need.

One example was my insurance company wanted me to jump through six months of BS before I could get a procedure I needed. I told them to sod off and was able to pay cash to get it done the same week.

The free market can be a wonderful thing.



You can get a private appointment for most things relatively cheaply in the UK. However from the OP I am guessing it's specialist ongoing treatment that is required.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

You had me until you called The Guardian a quality paper,ROFL.
Says it all,we look forward to your liberal dytophia.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: glen200376
a reply to: Revolution9

You had me until you called The Guardian a quality paper,ROFL.
Says it all,we look forward to your liberal dytophia.


Is liberal dytophia something to do with tofu?



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 04:04 PM
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As an American, I find this difficult to believe since we have been told over and over again that National Health Care is the best health care there could possibly be.



posted on Dec, 22 2017 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: Fools
As an American, I find this difficult to believe since we have been told over and over again that National Health Care is the best health care there could possibly be.


I have never heard anyone claim it the best it could be.

The UK spends less on healthcare than almost any comparable country.

Value for money terms it's arguably without peer, but it is incredibly under funded.



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