It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
originally posted by: StallionDuck
originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: dragonridr
Only a fool would think military trading agreements are 'aid' in the charitable sense you imply. You sell arms and agree a price with the customer. I have already used research a development costs example as Ford whining that selling it's cars is aid to customers - ridiculous.
And your airbases go ahead close them, nobody is invading the UK anytime soon, your fears are so last year and cold war paranoid.
So yeh, Britain doesn't depend on any US aid but we'll keep on buying your arms if they are any good. Close your airbases, the UK isn't begging you to keep them here.
Lmao, I just realised by your definition of aid that the UK provides billions in aid to Saudi Arabia through our arms sales. See how ridiculous that sounds lol
An unprotected "UK" is a conquered UK. I believe if you take the US presence out of Europe 100%, there would soon come war. Do you really think people/dictators have grown up and just disappeared from the earth since WWI and WW2? Since the beginning of cities and armies? History says NO and it rinses and repeats often, and much of the time, many times in the same century. What's so different now?
You may belive that but I do not.Pure speculation but cute you think the US keeps the world safe because many could well argue the opposite.
I would be happy with none of your bases in the UK because I do not share your fear.
You may believe we need your protective embrace but I do not.Neither of us can know.
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
You assume many things.
Without concrete evidence to back it up.
originally posted by: StallionDuck
originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
originally posted by: StallionDuck
originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: dragonridr
Only a fool would think military trading agreements are 'aid' in the charitable sense you imply. You sell arms and agree a price with the customer. I have already used research a development costs example as Ford whining that selling it's cars is aid to customers - ridiculous.
And your airbases go ahead close them, nobody is invading the UK anytime soon, your fears are so last year and cold war paranoid.
So yeh, Britain doesn't depend on any US aid but we'll keep on buying your arms if they are any good. Close your airbases, the UK isn't begging you to keep them here.
Lmao, I just realised by your definition of aid that the UK provides billions in aid to Saudi Arabia through our arms sales. See how ridiculous that sounds lol
An unprotected "UK" is a conquered UK. I believe if you take the US presence out of Europe 100%, there would soon come war. Do you really think people/dictators have grown up and just disappeared from the earth since WWI and WW2? Since the beginning of cities and armies? History says NO and it rinses and repeats often, and much of the time, many times in the same century. What's so different now?
You may belive that but I do not.Pure speculation but cute you think the US keeps the world safe because many could well argue the opposite.
I would be happy with none of your bases in the UK because I do not share your fear.
You may believe we need your protective embrace but I do not.Neither of us can know.
Has history taught you nothing? C'mon. The UK, more than many countries, should understand history and how it works.
You're welcome to believe what you like. Your government believes otherwise and we have the weapons/defenses to prove it. We're the only country in the world that could match and far surpass Russia's arsenal. We are THE Superpower. The US is still at the top of that list. "Wont be for long". Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Militarily, we are unmatched. Trust me. The UK wants and needs us in the region.
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
It's hardly an assumption to assume that investors will invest for the greatest return
They can do that NOW.
So where are they ?
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
It's hardly an assumption to assume that investors will invest for the greatest return
They can do that NOW.
So where are they ?
You already posted a link that shows the UK as largest foreign investor in the US over the 10 or so yrs from 2004-14.
I will post your own link for you
ofii.org...
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
It's hardly an assumption to assume that investors will invest for the greatest return
They can do that NOW.
So where are they ?
You already posted a link that shows the UK as largest foreign investor in the US over the 10 or so yrs from 2004-14.
I will post your own link for you
ofii.org...
You implied that if The U.K. pulled investment out of The U.S. other countries would fill the void.
As i stated, countries could do that now. So i ask again, where are they ?
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
It's hardly an assumption to assume that investors will invest for the greatest return
They can do that NOW.
So where are they ?
You already posted a link that shows the UK as largest foreign investor in the US over the 10 or so yrs from 2004-14.
I will post your own link for you
ofii.org...
You implied that if The U.K. pulled investment out of The U.S. other countries would fill the void.
As i stated, countries could do that now. So i ask again, where are they ?
No, I didn't.
so even if some looney board acted emotionally about Israel instead of doing thier jobs, those very few cases will be more than offset
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
It's hardly an assumption to assume that investors will invest for the greatest return
They can do that NOW.
So where are they ?
You already posted a link that shows the UK as largest foreign investor in the US over the 10 or so yrs from 2004-14.
I will post your own link for you
ofii.org...
You implied that if The U.K. pulled investment out of The U.S. other countries would fill the void.
As i stated, countries could do that now. So i ask again, where are they ?
No, I didn't.
You appear to have short term memory loss.
I quote you.
so even if some looney board acted emotionally about Israel instead of doing thier jobs, those very few cases will be more than offset
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
It's hardly an assumption to assume that investors will invest for the greatest return
They can do that NOW.
So where are they ?
You already posted a link that shows the UK as largest foreign investor in the US over the 10 or so yrs from 2004-14.
I will post your own link for you
ofii.org...
You implied that if The U.K. pulled investment out of The U.S. other countries would fill the void.
As i stated, countries could do that now. So i ask again, where are they ?
No, I didn't.
You appear to have short term memory loss.
I quote you.
so even if some looney board acted emotionally about Israel instead of doing thier jobs, those very few cases will be more than offset
And where pray tell, does that mention other countries making up for the UK pulling investment from the US (which was your initial rather silly notion)?
I am not sure memory loss is your problem, rather a lack of basic reading and comprehension skills.
No. Just pointing out the irrelevance of suggesting business investment in the US is going to dry up because of naming a capital in Israel. It's hardly an assumption to assume that investors will invest for the greatest return.
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: UKTruth
It's hardly an assumption to assume that investors will invest for the greatest return
They can do that NOW.
So where are they ?
You already posted a link that shows the UK as largest foreign investor in the US over the 10 or so yrs from 2004-14.
I will post your own link for you
ofii.org...
You implied that if The U.K. pulled investment out of The U.S. other countries would fill the void.
As i stated, countries could do that now. So i ask again, where are they ?
No, I didn't.
You appear to have short term memory loss.
I quote you.
so even if some looney board acted emotionally about Israel instead of doing thier jobs, those very few cases will be more than offset
And where pray tell, does that mention other countries making up for the UK pulling investment from the US (which was your initial rather silly notion)?
I am not sure memory loss is your problem, rather a lack of basic reading and comprehension skills.
Here. And i quote you again.
No. Just pointing out the irrelevance of suggesting business investment in the US is going to dry up because of naming a capital in Israel. It's hardly an assumption to assume that investors will invest for the greatest return.
originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: UKTruth
Apologies gentlemen for involving myself in your conversation but I think the misunderstanding only happened after a US member made out that UK is desperate for US "aid" to survive.
"Alldaylong" was originally pointing out that trading with the US is a two way street and they would miss massive UK investment. The real issue I see is that we rubbish the myth that we need to cling to US skirt tails like some Stockholm syndrome who love our super power protective overlords. Failure to denounce it only massages the egos of 'Murica members who are butt hurt that the UK voted against Trump lol
originally posted by: burgerbuddy
originally posted by: amazing
You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. It's one little vote. They disagree with us on something, they're not declaring war on us, and good heaven's they aren't even "unfriending" us. LOL
It's okay special snowflakes. LOL
AS you grow older, you'll learn that it's okay to have disagreements and that people that disagree with you can still be your friends. You'll also learn that you won't be right about everything. Some how in American society, we seem to think that once we reach the age of 18 we're magically right about everything. That's going to be a hard lesson for some of you to learn, you must accept that you are wrong sometimes.
Voting has consequences, does it not?
originally posted by: StallionDuck
originally posted by: amazing
You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. It's one little vote. They disagree with us on something, they're not declaring war on us, and good heaven's they aren't even "unfriending" us. LOL
It's okay special snowflakes. LOL
AS you grow older, you'll learn that it's okay to have disagreements and that people that disagree with you can still be your friends. You'll also learn that you won't be right about everything. Some how in American society, we seem to think that once we reach the age of 18 we're magically right about everything. That's going to be a hard lesson for some of you to learn, you must accept that you are wrong sometimes.
Apparently you didn't read some of the harsh comments from some of the countries leaders about this vote.
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: StallionDuck
With no USA in Europe/UK then Russia would just take over. We can't compete against Russian military technology without USA help.
By that premise, Russia could sweep over the border into China.
They havn't though have they ?
originally posted by: UKTruth
It must really burn the Trump haters that the most empowered woman in the USA right now is of minority descent and in the Trump administration.