This Suicide Machine Makes Death Peacefull And Painless

Disclaimer: People that kill themselves are guilty of murder, too. Murder of self is a crime, imo.

Disclaimer to the disclaimer: Under certain conditions in extreme cases, it should be legal, just like abortion is, under certain conditions, too.

I worry that if there is such a simple, painless way then every kid who's girlfriend just dumped him or similar will be offing themselves rather than learning how to deal with life.

Think is, if you are really at the stage where you can't consider an alternative to ending things, then, unless you are all but paralysed, there are always ways.

a reply to: Aliensun

An '80s movie called "brainstorm" has the same idea. A guy damned near killed himself hooking himself up to a machine that recorded thoughts and memories so you can replay them. He looped porn and there ya go.

Personally I want to go with my wife in my arms.

But after watching a few of my family members go out in pain I wish this was more of an option than hospice care. I feel as if a person should go out with as much dignity as possible and with no added regrets to life.

It amazes me that some people of this world would want someone in pain to hang on as long as possible. That is one of the ultimate cruelty in my eyes and heart.

Edit Afterthought:

One of the saddest experiences I have experienced was when my father passed in the VA hospice. Staff was wonderful and I think it was because my father had 3 generations of women stay in the hospice unit with him 10 days till the end. What the sad part was that in all the rooms I never seen family visiting the others that were there. I can't imagine dying alone... as a veteran one of the many reasons I married my wife was that I seem many many older couples holding hands and I knew that my then girlfriend who is my wife now would be that woman with me, in the VA holding my hand as we get older. It just boggled me that so many vets were dying alone. It was rully eye opening and very sad.

Wonder when it will become mandatory after a certain age. Remember the movie,"Logan's Run"?

a reply to: eManym

I loved that movie...

They lived in a society where they celebrated the rebirth. It was the right thing to do to most.

Our society looks down on loss of life. It is so ingrained it would probably take a century of social programming to get to the point of Logans Run lol...

a reply to: Terminal1
They celebrated going up a level - they were not informed that they would all die at 30.
Would you be happy to die at 30?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

No.

I am happy in life and even at 52 with MS, my life expands and grows.

So no. But there was a very rough time when I approached 30 when I considered suicide. I am glad that I was strong enough to drive through it. It is when I finally "grew up" leaving the life of childish wild rebellion behind. It would have been a huge loss. I love being a grandparent

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: 727Sky

I dunno... it just doesn't have the flair of the MomCorp Stop-N-Drop booth...

In all seriousness though, this iPad of self termination is all very well, with its sleek design and all, but I cannot help but feel its utterly unnecessary to use all these materials to achieve what could be done with a syringe and a working knowledge of pharmacology, without the necessity to have a machine of any kind be involved. If a person now has the right to decide to die, then surely administering a lethal dose of something to the patient with as little fuss, drama, or material expense as possible, makes a damned sight more sense than putting them in a sealed machine, cutting them off from the world before they have even left it?

It would be hard to kill off lots of people at one time with a syringe but if you could just get people all in one room (chamber) - it would be more cost effective and less hassle and they would not even know what was happening. This invention might not be just for 'self termination'.
Then the people would simply fall asleep and not be in a big pyramid when the doors open.

originally posted by: 727Sky
I can think of a few people who would have loved to have one of these to stop the incredible suffering they went through to die.

Nitschke Is the Elon Musk Of Assisted Suicide

The new chamber was revealed by Philip Nitschke from Australia, and he has been called the “Elon Musk of assisted suicide”. The machine was revealed this week, and this was just a few days after lawmakers in Victoria had a vote on legalizing euthanasia. The device is said to simplify what Nitschke calls “rational suicide” and makes sure that the whole process of suicide is easy and very painless and is what he says is the optimal way to die.

It is a neat design..... all they are doing is replacing the oxygen in the chamber with nitrogen.. You pass out shortly and within a few minutes your are dead.. End of story or a new chapter begins; whatever ?

Assisted suicide is now legal in Canada, Colombia, Belgium, Luxemburg and the Netherlands, along with Victoria, now that the new law is in place. In the United States, only patients that are terminally ill are able to take the suicide route. In numerous states, two doctors have to verify how legitimate the request is.

www.disclose.tv...

I hope that this is the future. Having lost family members to Alzeimers and dementia I have witnessed the cruelty and indignity that these diseases bring. The above sounds like a peaceful and dignified way to go. We should all have the right to a humane death, currently we treat pets better.

Have no problem with assisted suicide, as long as the people actually have real problems with no cure, its cruel to just keep people so high on drugs they barely recognize family or loved ones, just for the sake of money.

Letting people punch their ticket because they feel bad but have no actual problem is where I would draw the line.

a reply to: 727Sky

At least make it a sun tan booth at the same time with hip music

I could see this machine abused. It's use should be regulated, someone who is depressed when their illness can be fixed might go for this. Also depressed people who would like to kill themselves will fudge the evidence to get to use this.

Nitrous oxide is not harmless.

I have mixed feelings, especially in terms of non physical reasons that one would want to do this but I do know some folks who did not end their life just to honor the wishes of those that they loved and loved them. They had a terminal physical illness and there was no hope short of a miracle. We had many talks about how they would, pros and cons and all of it. In the end, it was brutal and harsh and they suffered.
I would not want to leave my body for someone else (my children or a hiker or washed up on a beach somewhere) to have to deal with and clean up etc so for me this type of device with trained (?) folks administering the lethal chemical would be welcome.
So again I have mixed feelings. There is someone close to me who becomes 'suicidal' at times and I would never want her to be able to do this however, it is HER suffering isn't it? I still would stop her if I were able.
I can't imagine the world my children will be living in when they are my age.

a reply to: 727Sky

nitrogen purging = not really any sort of innovation or revalation

the brittish polititial micheal portillo demonstrated the technique on national television 10 years ago [ as an execution method ]

the " chamber " = a tacky gimmick

a humane " euthenasia kit " [ based on the principle ] - could easily be built into a breifcase

a reply to: 727Sky

So does Ketamine and Diamorphine but you don't see the majority of our masses ending there days on that fluffy little cloud.

A bath of hot water and a sharp razor can end life relatively painlessly.

What the hell have we become as a species???

Hmm ! The article states that once you have died you are then buried in the machine, it becomes your coffin. WHY ?
What would happen if you were removed from it ?
Also, if you have to be buried in the machine then i assume you have to PAY for it and they look expensive. Only those that can afford assisted suicide can do it then i guess. You can also rule it out if you want to be cremated !

a reply to: 727Sky

I would rather give the Whirly-Dirly a spin...

a reply to: rickymouse

why are you the only person in this thread talking about :

" nitrous oxide " ??????????????????????

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: rickymouse

why are you the only person in this thread talking about :

" nitrous oxide " ??????????????????????

Method of action.

When your wife or husband borrows one of these from her friend who's husband just died of natural causes and tells you it one of the new health fads, don't believe her/him. Never get into anything that looks like it came off a sci-fi movie

a reply to: rickymouse

have the decency to just admit that you are talking bollox