Taser usage in jails and police stations (Vids could cause discomfort)

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I've just watched this video in the link above provided on skynews and I have to say that it seems the Police and wardens are going way over the top with these tasers! Most of the guys In these videos are being shocked like cattle, can hardly speak or comprehend what's being asked and they are tasered.

I could understand if there was some threat but these guys are handcuffed.



Vid above is some stats and footage.



More stats above. Police killed more than 1,000 people with tasers since the year 2000.

No doubt there are some danerous people out there and some like Peado's deserve it or someone coming at you with a knife or gun but when a person is handcuffed, there really is no need for the taser.



This vid above shows the murder of a guy in Harnett County Police Station.

I am so scared of these things. My heart would literally stop if they used them on me. I am not a criminal but I could get caught up in a protest for example where the police surrounds everyone, disregarding of you are part of it or just a passer by. Very worrying.

originally posted by: Hecate666
I am so scared of these things. My heart would literally stop if they used them on me. I am not a criminal but I could get caught up in a protest for example where the police surrounds everyone, disregarding of you are part of it or just a passer by. Very worrying.

It looks pretty scary to be hit by one of these tasers. Could be the guy who dies from a heart condition. I think a lower voltage needs to be adopted or some other type of defense but as I said most the guys in police stations/jails are handcuffed.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

I don't about in the rest of the world, but I've watched a few of the real police shows on Netflix of Canadian law enforcement officers. There is a marked difference in the way they treat their "clients." But then, also, there is a marked decrease in those perps wanting to resist. As a cop, how much physical resistance should you accept (as threats to your physical self) before you decide that the person is not cooperating and they WILL cooperate? Even if five officers are upon the wild guy, it is not unusual that one or more of them will require medical attention.

In this day, drugs and alcohol are so much a part of those perps acting up when common sense should be telling them that it is futile and they should be civil. But common sense is the farthest thing from their minds. Then too, some people don't have common sense at all and believe they have the right to act up, so....Zap!

Getting tased is usually required when the person is out of control. It should be that simple, but over-use will happen as the officers also have a temperament that can be provoked. You should always wonder why is that rather harsh act being done? Could it have been prevented by either the person being tased or the officer pulling the trigger?

a reply to: Aliensun

If you watch the vids in my op, none of those who got tasered deserved to be tasered. They weren't threatening i any way and also were handcuffed.

What about the guy who died at Harnett County in video 3? Did he look threatening in any way? Handcuffs came off and he just walked away, all of a sudden big black guy comes along and tasers him.

On another issue: What do those uniformed officers eat at Harnett County?? They all look like they've ate too much.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

From the snippets we can see, that looks like a lot of misuse. A taser is supposed to be a non-lethal way to subdue someone who is posing a threat, not a device which with to threaten someone for any little thing.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes
A taser or a ECW is not a non lethal weapon but it is considered a less lethal option, most people that do die from a taser exposure die as a result of certain types of cardiac conditions, one application of a taser which lasts for no longer then 5 seconds until the taser shuts itself off will not cause enough harm to kill a person. You would have to be exposed in excess of 6 times for it to have a serious effect on you, most departments require via policy that officers should try to go to a different weapon after 3 successful applications.

Btw I am a certified taser instructor for the state/department I work for.

As for the videos I have yet to watch them and I will but I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions first.

a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist



That was heartbreaking to watch. How can people live with themselves after they have killed a non-threatening human being.

originally posted by: caf1550
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes
A taser or a ECW is not a non lethal weapon but it is considered a less lethal option, most people that do die from a taser exposure die as a result of certain types of cardiac conditions, one application of a taser which lasts for no longer then 5 seconds until the taser shuts itself off will not cause enough harm to kill a person. You would have to be exposed in excess of 6 times for it to have a serious effect on you, most departments require via policy that officers should try to go to a different weapon after 3 successful applications.

Btw I am a certified taser instructor for the state/department I work for.

As for the videos I have yet to watch them and I will but I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions first.

Aware that they can be lethal, but appreciate the added details! I'd agree that more prolonged usage would be required in most cases, for a fatality to occur. Unless, I'd guess, someone had a pacemaker, or some other condition?

I would think that one application ought to be enough, in most cases. Aren't these things supposed to render a person incapable of action? I was under the impression that the average person would be floored, and unable to resist, once hit with a taser. If that didn't work, I'd be inclined to try some other method right away, just in case.

The video I watched, it seems like they were using a taser not for physical resistance, but for verbal only. Short clips, so there cold be things we don't see, but that's the appearance from what we do see. It seems from those clips that some abuses of prisoners, using the device, are happening, and if true, that's not a good thing. Always some bad apples, of course, in any field of work. I'd suspect that any doing such things would do so from some sense of power, more than from a lack of training, though either is possible.

It's hard to understand why human-rights groups turn a blind eye to law enforcement executing citizens, but go ballistic when the military subjects an Islamic terrorist to a porn movie.

originally posted by: KTemplar
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist



That was heartbreaking to watch. How can people live with themselves after they have killed a non-threatening human being.

There is a simple answer they are psychopaths, it's not that far from the same mindset we see here everyday. Without fail some armchair quarterback will proudly claim preemptive strikes on nth Korea for example, its the same mindset that declares they are criminals and had it coming.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: TruthxIsxInxThexMist

From the snippets we can see, that looks like a lot of misuse. A taser is supposed to be a non-lethal way to subdue someone who is posing a threat, not a device which with to threaten someone for any little thing.

Sorry, onky just viewed this thread.

I agree that the taser is being mis-used like a Jockey whips his horse.