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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: ScepticScot
Again you misrepresent (lie?) about what actually happened. The police did try and help him.
Not a hypothetical, we know exactly what happened when people without the proper equipment got in the water. One died and one needed rescued by a boat. Do you think more passersby going in would have improved those figures?
I haven't misrepresented anything. First you accuse me of poetic licence (a lie), and then misrepresent my argument.
It is a hypothetical. We do know what happened when a man went into the water: people helped him out. They would have done the exact same had he a teenager in his arms. Or, having taking your advice, they would have done nothing and let two men drown because it wasn't safe.
If believe it was a man in a canoe who rescued the officer. Describe in your hypothetical how you drag a police officer with a teenager (who by many accounts didn't want rescued) m arms on to a canoe?
All of which is irrelevant anyway as the premise of your entire OP that this was the fault, directly or indirectly, of statism is still total bunk.
This was a tragic accident caused by drug use and inadequate mental health care.
Sophistry...yes there we go. The LesMis greatest hits collection gets broken out again.
I have seen nothing in your posts that even remotely convinced me that you even have an argument to refute.
Kid takes drugs has mental breakdown and goes into a river where he refused to be rescued. A tragic event that offers us no insight the evils or otherwise of statism and it's supposed affect on people.