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Those Pentagon UFO Vids Have Shown Us A Few Realities.

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posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: alldaylong

I guess you have not understood that the continental US seems to be the fly over ground for most triangles. Why is that?
I guess you have not read an account about a triangle witnessed near Ft. Hood, Texas where the observer was able to see through his rifle scope a marked "RESCUE" door on the front of the craft?

I guess you have not read my thread "Black Triangles: The Worst Kept Secret" where I detailed the triangle moving slow, low and absolutely quietly over Laramie in 1998 in front of about 20 of us UFO buffs standing outside talking after a session that night of the last Rocky Mountain UFO Conference. (Were that aliens or some domestic flyboys wanting to get us all excited?)

You amply display what is usually wrong with threads like this that pop up, issue opinions like commands without foundation. It is okay to come ignorant, but be prepared to shuck old opinions and believes. You may not always get a load of actual facts, but an alternative viewpoint may soften your evidently hard and fast beliefs of what is and is not possible.


Sounds exciting, I’m going to go check out that thread, thanks!




posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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They ET or Nazi?



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

The GIMBAL and FLIR1 videos are indeed footage of UFO's. They are UFO's by definition and their blurry appearance is a moot point. If you know something those Hornet pilots and the DoD don't then please enlighten us all. If not then perhaps cut the OP some slack.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: gortex

I don't know why you were "unimpressed" with this video clip. I was born on an air force base and my dad served from 1941 to 1965. I've had a love and fascination of aircraft and ufos since I was a kid. I've never seen such a clear clip, of a craft that displays a technology that we do not possess. This craft out maneuvered our own jets and nearly slowed to a complete stop in midair and rotated while being pursued. You have to remember this clip was edited by the United States government for public release, so they sure as hell wasn't going to show more than they had to.


GIMBAL is the first of three US military videos of unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) that has been through the official declassification review process of the United States government and has been approved for public release. This footage, and all official USG footage you will see on TTS Academy’s Community of Interest (COI), comes with essential chain-of-custody documentation validating that it is received in its original and unaltered form and is authentic. The US Department of Defense uses this process in order to meticulously ensure that information and material retain their integrity without revealing sources and methods. This documentation is what sets this footage apart from anything else that has previously made its way to the public domain, by establishing its authenticity and thereby giving it enormous historical significance.

coi.tothestarsacademy.com...

I agree that the United States, more than likely, have back engineered recovered alien craft and have developed aircraft technology that's probably decades more advanced than what is currently known. The laughable auditing system at the DOD, has allowed trillions of dollars to go unaccounted for. This is probably done on purpose, so that billions could be funneled into black op programs and not be traced. Like someone stated, flying triangles are probably highly advanced tech that we've developed and lends credibility to what Ben Rich stated: “There are 2 kinds of UFOs. Ours, and theirs.”

However, I believe the craft shown in the clip is "theirs" and not ours. There would be no reason for jets to be scrambled for intercept on a known "bogey." Why would the government take a chance of an experimental craft being targeted by our own military? If they (the government) didn't communicate with our military branches about experimental tests, we would have many reports and video footage of military jets intercepting "triangles" and other experimental craft.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: filthyphilanthropist





Most likely "on the verge" to us means "already have it" to them. I bet they are using this tech secretly already


A question.

Does The U.S. Government have secret and hidden manufacturing plants where these so called " Black Project " aircraft are manufactured ? Who supplies the raw materials, man power, assembly lines, electric and or gas power etc etc.

Area 51 i hear you shout.

I would doubt it.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny





I don't know why you were "unimpressed" with this video clip.

I want something more than an ambiguous blurry thing , I've seen many ambiguous blurry things already.



I was born on an air force base and my dad served from 1941 to 1965

I was born at an RAF base



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Does it really show it "rotating"? Have a read through following thread.

Metabunk post link on "rotation"

From

Metabunk thread link



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: tommyjo

Well, I appreciate Mick West's analysis of the clip, but he's no expert of the Raytheon ATFLIR. He may be correct on his assumption, but I much rather hear from a military pilot or technician, who works with this technology on a daily basis. However, even if I retract my "rotation" description, lets check off the things that we do know:
--the pilot stated in the clip that the unknown object was rotating
--the pilot stated "there's a whole fleet of them"
--unknown object out maneuvers fighter jets
--unknown object changed it's orientation (position) while being pursued by our jets
--unknown object changed it's orientation, while slowing to nearly a full stop, while being pursued by our jets
--it's movement caused the pilots to react in total awe of what they were witnessing



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Correct, they are not cloaked all the time. iirc usually only FLIR can catch them when cloaked.

And also agreed, they can penetrate any airspace at wish.

Although the pentagon videos dont show much detail in terms of electromagnetic interference, trace evidence etc.. I'm hoping more details like that will emerge soon.

But another factor at play at here is g forces. Clearly if a craft can maneuver so fluidly through time and space, and not kill the occupants piloting such craft, then logically our understandings of basic physics have fundamentally changed.

That being said, I think the next step should be meeting whoevers flying these things. Science could very well benefit from understanding concepts that other civilizations have grasped, but we have not.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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a reply to: helldiver


The GIMBAL and FLIR1 videos are indeed footage of UFO's. They are UFO's by definition and their blurry appearance is a moot point. If you know something those Hornet pilots and the DoD don't then please enlighten us all. If not then perhaps cut the OP some slack.

Blurry=Moot, got it.

Why don't you tell how you know those are confirmed "UFO's" , whatever that acronym means to you.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 04:36 PM
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Im going with Antarctic Nazis aligned with the people from the center of the earth. The only reason we dont have more info is because genetically mutated goose stepping snow yeties guard the nazi bases under the glaciers of the south pole.
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posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: helldiver


The GIMBAL and FLIR1 videos are indeed footage of UFO's. They are UFO's by definition and their blurry appearance is a moot point. If you know something those Hornet pilots and the DoD don't then please enlighten us all. If not then perhaps cut the OP some slack.

Blurry=Moot, got it.

Why don't you tell how you know those are confirmed "UFO's" , whatever that acronym means to you.


K
Your intransigence is admirable yet self defeating. You called them blurry blobs thereby acknowledging their existence. Until you or some other authority on the subject can identify the blobs (even as fake blobs) then their status as UFO's remains unchanged.




posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: helldiver

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: helldiver


The GIMBAL and FLIR1 videos are indeed footage of UFO's. They are UFO's by definition and their blurry appearance is a moot point. If you know something those Hornet pilots and the DoD don't then please enlighten us all. If not then perhaps cut the OP some slack.

Blurry=Moot, got it.

Why don't you tell how you know those are confirmed "UFO's" , whatever that acronym means to you.


K
Your intransigence is admirable yet self defeating. You called them blurry blobs thereby acknowledging their existence. Until you or some other authority on the subject can identify the blobs (even as fake blobs) then their status as UFO's remains unchanged.

Nice dodge.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
Im going with Antarctic Nazis aligned with the people from the center of the earth. The only reason we dont have more info is because genetically mutated goose stepping snow yeties guard the nazi bases under the glaciers of the south pole.


Wow that is such ridiculous crazy talk.


Everyone knows there is no center to the earth, since its flat. That must be the disinformation in your part to keep you safe, because everything else you said is right on the money.


edit on 381231America/ChicagoTue, 19 Dec 2017 19:38:58 -0600000000p3142 by interupt42 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

I mean, exactly. Atomic bombs could probably screw 'em up, but it's not like we'll use that against small fleets and such. If they could fly circles around, rather yet fly spheres around our guys, and they don't care about breaking some star trek code, then they wouldn't have any need for cloaking.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

we may have back engineered ET technology but we may not have access to the materials here on earth that are required to reproduce that technology.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 09:19 PM
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a reply to: bluechevytree

Youd be pretty surprised just how far our material sciences have progressed.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 09:20 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
UFO's are not cloaked ( well maybe not all the time )

We haven't " Back Engineered " ET propulsion technology. If we had we they could have been caught up with.

ET craft can invade a countries airspace at will.

There are probably other factors we may have learnt, so please add if you can think of any.

Maybe back in the fifties it served a purpose to let the masses think ufo’s Were extraterrestrial to keep the spotlight from the cutting edge American tech of the time,nowadays it could serve the purpose of not worrying the American public of how far behind technologically they are



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
a reply to: andy06shake

I mean, exactly. Atomic bombs could probably screw 'em up,

i never realized that, but it's true. could toast any alien



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
Why cloak at all really? if indeed you have the technologies to survive the rigors of interstellar flight and have mastered control over the very fabric of space-time nothing we Humans have including our primitive atomics would even manage to put a dent in whatever material these things are made of.

Something you need to keep in mind is how atomic bombs work.
You can't dodge that atoms are shooting at your atoms, hitting their neurons thus knocking a single neuron off, releasing a reaction and each neuron knocked off releases massive amounts as it splits off. You can't avoid this.




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