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France eez yuge!

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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 06:13 AM
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France is huge...

I'll give you some time to recover from your laughing fit. Are you done? Let me try again.

France is huge...

...by the size of its exclusive economic zone (EEZ)





A state's exclusive economic zone starts at the seaward edge of its territorial sea and extends outward to a distance of 200 nautical miles (370.4 km) from the baseline. The exclusive economic zone stretches much further into sea than the territorial waters, which end at 12 nmi (22 km) from the coastal baseline (if following the rules set out in the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea).[5] Thus, the exclusive economic zones includes the contiguous zone. States also have rights to the seabed of what is called the continental shelf up to 350 nautical miles (648 km) from the coastal baseline, 






Due to its numerous overseas departments and territories scattered on all oceans of the planet, France possesses the largest EEZ in the world, covering 11,691,000 km2(4,514,000 mi2), the EEZ of the United States is the second largest (11,351,000 km2 / 4,382,000 mi2). The EEZ of France covers approximately 8% of the total surface of all the EEZs of the world, whereas the land area of the French Republic is only 0.45% of the total land area of the Earth.

Wikipedia


Just thought this was an interesting fact that probably not many people are aware of. The reason why both France and the U.S. are shown as being the country with the largest EEZ is probably due to a recent expansion of France's maritime claims.

EEZs may soon gain importance thanks to seabed mining:


Although the distinction between shallow-water mining and Deep Sea Mining (DSM) is not formally demarcated, an emerging consensus says that DSM is the removal of minerals from seabeds deeper than 500 meters. Under that definition, DSM does not yet exist. Its first incarnation will most likely occur off the coast of Papua New Guinea in late 2017 / early 2018 when the Nautilus Minerals Inc. seeks to remove gold and copper from inactive hydrothermal vent zones at depths between 1000 and 1500 meters.

source


ETA Obviously there is also the defence aspect that comes with such a large territory:


France’s defense role in the region is nothing new, and Paris acknowledges having “started to rebalance its strategic centre of gravity towards the Indo-Pacific.” France has strategic interests in the region: Eighty-five percent of its exclusive economic zone is situated in the Indian and Pacific Oceans and it has overseas departments and territories as well as a permanent military presence in the region. France is also part of the south Pacific quadrilateral alliance with the United States, Australia and New Zealand. French interests are also motivated by the region’s economic dynamism and the presence of geopolitical nodes (80 percent of global maritime traffic passes through the South China Sea, for example).

The increasing expectations of France and rising maritime tensions in the region, at the same time an aircraft carrier arms race is starting — with China launching its second (and first domestically-built one), India building its third (its first nuclear-powered carrier), while France’s only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, is in drydock for an 18-month refit and upgrade — are already refueling the debate on the necessity of a sister ship (and its cost, which includes that of additional crew, fighter jets, and escort ships).

THE TEN MAIN DEFENSE CHALLENGES FACING MACRON’S FRANCE.
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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

Isn't the idea of how many widgets you can sell in your market and not how big is your marketable area?

I guess I'm missing the reason for the value of those statistics except to uphold French exceptionalism, a term often thrown toward the US.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 06:51 AM
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a reply to: Aliensun

Yes you are missing the point. This is about resources which have a market value!



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex


Due to its numerous overseas departments and territories scattered on all oceans of the planet, France possesses the largest EEZ in the world...


French Colonialism. Like other European and US Colonialism, the EU and US (NATO) assert dominance on a lot of places they don't belong.

That history of Empire, Colonies, dominance and subjugation goes back centuries.

What is up with that?



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 07:07 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex


Due to its numerous overseas departments and territories scattered on all oceans of the planet, France possesses the largest EEZ in the world...


French Colonialism. Like other European and US Colonialism, the EU and US (NATO) assert dominance on a lot of places they don't belong.

That history of Empire, Colonies, dominance and subjugation goes back centuries.

What is up with that?



Yeah, not a fan either.




Still, I think it's an interesting fact and probably not all that many people are aware of this.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 07:16 AM
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Still, I think it's an interesting fact and probably not all that many people are aware of this.

I wasn't either. Thanks for showing that map of French "Interests".

How come theres no 'blue spot' on that map in Mali? French military is active in other African countries too. As a member of NATO, they have assisted in numerous NATO operations in the Middle East.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 07:30 AM
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originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
a reply to: Aliensun

Yes you are missing the point. This is about resources which have a market value!


Then I don't believe that data accurate portrays the true situation.

But I fully admit not being an economist or even a business person.
(Nor a lover of statistics that are without a full documentation.)



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 07:32 AM
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a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

The figures are meaningless.

The French figures according to your link say they include their Antarctic Territorial Claim, but the British Figures exclude theirs.

There are also areas of The Indian & Pacific Ocean where France is in dispute with other countries. Yet they have been added to their figures.

Britain is also in dispute with other countries about claims ( i.e. Argentina and The Falklands ) These territories have not been added to the British Total.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

You obviously did not bother to read the op. Let me repeat for you with added emphasise:


A state's exclusive economic zone starts at the seaward edge of its territorial sea and extends outward to a distance of 200 nautical miles (370.4 km) from the baseline. The exclusive economic zone stretches much further into sea than the territorial waters, which end at 12 nmi (22 km) from the coastal baseline (if following the rules set out in the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea).[5] Thus, the exclusive economic zones includes the contiguous zone.


Notice a theme there?



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 08:04 AM
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a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

If France has such a strong military, then maybe it's time for the US to close European military bases we can no longer afford!! WWII is over. Let the damn French defend Europe from the Russians.

America first for change!


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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

And?

A tu d’autres choses à raconter apart des conneries...!?

Gotta have a bash at other countries to make yours look bigger and better huh!?

Another reason for us non USA members to sound anti USA and get flamed by the knee jerkers again.

Give us a break please and try getting off that high horse that one day you will fall off...

Lagomorphe



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

See Empires are still good for something after all.....


What island does France have off the west coast of Mexico? That map has a blue circle there.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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a reply to: Lagomorphe

Wow, you are completely misinterpreting my intentions. Speaking of knee jerk reactions...



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex

See Empires are still good for something after all.....


What island does France have off the west coast of Mexico? That map has a blue circle there.



Not so sure about empires being good for anything. You mean Clipperton Island? It's a tiny uninhabited atoll.

ETA 6 square kilometres of land but giving France about 431,000 square kilometres of EEZ - now if that ain't absurd... But there is even a smaller one of 1km² land surface yielding an EEZ of 270,000 km² (Tromelin Island)
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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
a reply to: Lagomorphe

Wow, you are completely misinterpreting my intentions. Speaking of knee jerk reactions...


Bien sûr!



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: MindBodySpiritComplex



See Empires are still good for something after all.....


What island does France have off the west coast of Mexico? That map has a blue circle there.



Not so sure about empires being good for anything. You mean Clipperton Island? It's a tiny uninhabited atoll.

ETA 6 square kilometres of land but giving France about 431,000 square kilometres of EEZ - now if that ain't absurd... But there is even a smaller one of 1km² land surface yielding an EEZ of 270,000 km² (Tromelin Island)


Learned some new geography today.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 09:24 AM
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Here's the ugly end of inhabitation of the island:


Lighthouse keeper Victoriano Álvarez was the last man on the island, together with 15 women and children.[19] Álvarez proclaimed himself "king" and began an orgy of rape and murder, before being killed by Tirza Rendon, who was the recipient of his unwanted attention.[18] Almost immediately after Álvarez's death four women and seven children, the last survivors, were picked up by the US Navy gunship Yorktown on 18 July 1917.[18] No more attempts were made to colonize it, though it was briefly occupied during the 1930s and 1940s.


And now you know, the rest of the story.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 10:48 AM
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You obviously did not bother to read the op.


Read it yourself, Colonialist:




Due to its numerous overseas departments and territories scattered on all oceans of the planet, France possesses the largest EEZ in the world, covering 11,691,000 km2(4,514,000 mi2)...



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