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DHS to Release Inert Chemical and Biological Simulant Materials at Newkirk, Oklahoma.

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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:01 AM
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BTW Phage...


Unfortunately this page is not available at the moment. We apologise for the inconvenience.

Due to a technical maintenance, the search for chemicals and related databases on REACH, CLP, BPR and PIC information are not available from Friday 15 December 17:00 to Tuesday 19 December 08:00 Helsinki time.

All submission tools and public consultations will work as normal.

echa.europa.eu...

Capiche?...




posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:03 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

What's your point?
Do you think titanium dioxide was banned this weekend?

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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:04 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

What's your point?


...Titanium dioxide is a chemical, and that's the official database you want me to excerpt from, which is not available...



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

What's your point?
Do you think titanium dioxide was banned this weekend?


The database cannot be accessed at all Phage... It doesn't mean that "only the chemicals banned from last week are not accessible"... ALL information of the chemical database cannot be accessed...
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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:08 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Ok. I'll give you a couple of days.

Meanwhile, the futures market doesn't seem to be worried.
www.polyestertime.com...



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:10 AM
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If you don't know what ECHA is.


European Chemicals Agency
European Chemicals Agency
The European Chemicals Agency is an agency of the European Union which manages the technical, scientific and administrative aspects of the implementation of the European Union regulation called Registration, Evaluation, Authorisation and Restriction of Chemicals. ECHA is the driving force among regulatory authorities in implementing the EU's chemicals legislation. ECHA helps companies to comply with the legislation, advances the safe use of chemicals, provides information on chemicals and addresses chemicals of concern. It is located in Helsinki, Finland.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:12 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yeah. They don't make the rules but they do implement them.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:13 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Well Phage, you better take it with your left-wing media if that information is not true... But hey, you have been a willing "left-wing Kool-aide swallower" of fake news. But when you are caught posting false claims you simply stop responding in those threads.
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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:14 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Essentially the private contractors over at the DHS are going to "release" dung to fertilize a relatives farm and be paid for it by the government.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:25 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

False.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:29 AM
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Anyway....for the rest of the members who want to know the conclusion ECHA reached but mentioned by yet another source.


ECHA Committee Concludes Titanium Dioxide Should Be Classified as Suspected of Causing Cancer When Inhaled
Tuesday, June 13, 2017

On June 9, 2017, the European Chemicals Agency (ECHA) announced that the Committee for Risk Assessment (RAC) “concluded that the available scientific evidence meets the criteria in the [Classification, Labeling and Packaging (CLP)] Regulation to classify titanium dioxide as a substance suspected of causing cancer through the inhalation route.” In May 2016, France submitted a proposal for harmonized classification and labeling (CLH). The proposal’s conclusions on classification and labeling state:

TiO2 should be considered as being potentially carcinogenic to humans when inhaled and thus be classified Carc. Cat 1B-H350i. This classification applied for both fine particles and nanomaterials of TiO2 without being able of any distinction in terms of morphology, crystal phase, and surface treatment.

RAC assessed the carcinogenic potential of titanium dioxide against the CLP criteria and, having considered the available scientific data, concluded that it meets the criteria to be classified as suspected of causing cancer (category 2, through the inhalation route). According to ECHA, RAC concluded that there was insufficient evidence to classify titanium dioxide in the more severe category for carcinogenicity (category 1B) as was originally proposed by France. This more severe category refers to a substance that is presumed to cause cancer. Following adoption, RACs opinion will go through a normal editorial check before it is sent to the European Commission for final decision making. The opinion will be made available on ECHAs website at that time.

www.natlawreview.com...



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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

You might want to update your information. RAC did not concur with your bolded sections. From September:

RAC takes the view that the experimental and human evidence does not support titanium dioxide to be classified as Carc.1A or 1B.

RAC also considered whether TiO2 fulfills the classification criteria for category 2 for carcinogenicity or whether no classification for carcinogenicity is more appropriate. Balancing the reasons for category 2 or no classification, RAC looked closely at the experimental conditions in the rat inhalation studies and at interspecies differences.

echa.europa.eu...

They recommend category 2, lowest level "suspected human carcinogen", be adopted (for inhalation). That requires labeling, I think, but not banning. Oh wait, your external quote says that too, category 2. You didn't notice that?



Second category: category 2
Suspected human carcinogens
The placing of a substance in category 2 is done on the basis of evidence obtained from human and/or animal studies, but which is not sufficiently convincing to place the substance in category 1A or 1B
www.prc.cnrs.fr...
Sounds like those stickers you see everywhere in California.


Hopefully the website will be up in a couple of days so you can show me that you are correct about it being banned by the EU.

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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:46 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Really Phage?... From your link...


...
The DS justified classification as Carc. Cat 1B –H350i for TiO2 on the basis that there was an increase in the incidence in both malignant and benign lung tumours in one species and these were reported in two studies by inhalation and two studies by instillation after exposure to TiO2.
Although malignant tumours were observed only in single sex, it was noted that only females were tested in the studies reporting malignant tumours (Heinrichet al., 1995; Pott and Roller, 2005 and Xu, 2010). In Lee et al. (1985), both sexes were tested but only benign tumours (bronchioalveolar adenomas) were found (in both sexes)
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The DS concluded that since the data provided cannot distinguish whether a specific form of TiO2 is linked to its toxic
effect, this classification should be applied to
titanium dioxide in all phases and phase combinations; particles in all sizes/morphologies”.
...

echa.europa.eu...


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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:48 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Yes. We know that is what France recommended.
From my link (and yours), CAR (part of ECHA) recommends a category 2 classification.
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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:51 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
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Hopefully the website will be up in a couple of days so you can show me that you are correct about it being banned by the EU.


My statement was based on one your left-wing sources Phage... Don't try to blame me if your left-wing sources are once again trying to post fake news as truth...



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 12:52 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It's not my source.

Don't blame me if you don't check your sources. You should be more careful. Especially with one of them lefty websites.

Confirmation bias can be problematic. It can make you trust sources you might not otherwise.

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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 01:01 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It's not my source.

Don't blame me if you don't check your sources. You should be more careful. Especially with one of them lefty websites.

Confirmation bias can be problematic. It can make you trust sources you might not otherwise.


Still, you were implying in your first responses that there was no reason to worry... But i guess you are not going to admit to being wrong...



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I wasn't wrong.

A pound and half of titanium dioxide released in good weather 5 miles from anywhere will pose a danger to no one. If you read the the ECHA finding you might agree. But I doubt it.

As to no reason to worry? People worry about all kinds of stuff. Some people worry about Nibiru. Do they have reason to do so?

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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 01:12 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Ok, So maybe they won't do it.

'Cuz torches and pitchforks over a pound and a half of stuff 5 miles away in light winds.



Fake news by Phage...

First, it isn't 5 miles away, it is about 3 miles, maybe a bit more from Arkansas city.

Second, they are releasing 10.8 kg of TiO2, not a pound and a half as you claim.


www.dhs.gov...

10.8 kg = 23.8 lbs




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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 01:27 AM
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One more thing, looking at Google Earth i see that there are a lot of people, including an Indian casino, living within a mile from where these biological/chemical tests will be carried out. I can't see the name of the city/town, but there has got to be about 2,000-3,000 people within 1 mile of the experiment. That's not counting Arkansas city which is a bit more than 3 miles away.
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