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originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: ttobban
a reply to: intrptr
Good points, and we also need to factor in the costs of mining/block chain. Currently, it costs thousands of dollars in electricity to mine a single bitcoin... that factor alone means that bitcoin now is undervalued... even at $20k. It surely doesn't cost $1,000's of dollars to print more notes...
Mining of bitcoin is along the same principle as mining real gold. Math is used instead of shovels.
Another parallel with the precious metal is that there’s a limited amount of Bitcoins that can ever be mined: no more than 21 mln coins. As of 2017, nearly 17 mln Bitcoins have already been mined.
cointelegraph
Thats the beauty of bit coin. The supply is capped. The only thing that can inflate is the value.
originally posted by: Generation9
a reply to: intrptr
It is not. There is a limit up to eight places past the decimal. It is limited. Other coins are limited at much higher insane high numbers.
People keep saying this and it's extremely cute. "But BC has a fixed cap!!!"
Yeah, but it doesn't. It's literally the exact same as fiat paper. Instead of exceeding 21 million, we just break it into more pieces. 1$ is 1$, but 1$ is 0.000061 BC. The reason they print more money instead of break it into smaller pieces is because you can hold it in your hand. There is no tangible difference between breaking 21 million into 17 billion pieces, or allowing 17 billion coins to be mined.
Get it?
It's the exact same thing presented in a different manner. Just like you can add to infinite, you can fractionalize to infinite also.
Fiat paper is 1,2,3->infinite. BC is 0.01, 0.001, 0.0001->infinite.
Literally no difference.
originally posted by: Generation9
How many coins are necessary for YOU to transact? How much do YOU earn per week? Spend? Save? How much do YOU need at any one moment?
This is how to challenge the banker.
It is absolutely mind twisting.
originally posted by: Generation9
a reply to: Generation9
But in the end I want the pieces of paper that are so popular in MY COUNTRY.
Isn't it the same for you?
originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: Generation9
a reply to: Generation9
But in the end I want the pieces of paper that are so popular in MY COUNTRY.
Isn't it the same for you?
One day you may be able to purchase a head of lettuce for ten thousand paper dollars, or one pre 64 uS silver quarter.
originally posted by: Generation9
a reply to: intrptr
It is not. There is a limit up to eight places past the decimal. It is limited. Other coins are limited at much higher insane high numbers.
How much money needs to be sent?
At any one moment?
A million?
2.7 billion?
it can happen. Wallet to wallet. Witcoin network.
originally posted by: Generation9
a reply to: SRPrime
It is bizarre how Bitcoin can send money no matter what the "price" of Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is 1000. I send you a hundred dollars with 0.10 BTC.
Bitcoin is 1. I send you a hundred dollars with 100.00 BTC.
You get $100.
Complete lunacy.
originally posted by: Generation9
originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: Generation9
a reply to: Generation9
But in the end I want the pieces of paper that are so popular in MY COUNTRY.
Isn't it the same for you?
One day you may be able to purchase a head of lettuce for ten thousand paper dollars, or one pre 64 uS silver quarter.
No.
That won't happen.
MY paper dollars, the USD, are very valuable. Head of lettuce? I can buy a car or a business with ten thousand USD. The central bank makes sure my paper dollars keep buying stuff at a low low price. I only challenge the bankers in the sense that I can earn more using my money than they can pay me for holding the money. Their interest rate is too low. They can do everyday banking all day every year. I can earn money in the magic money market. The barriers to entry have never been so low. You or I can start a business with cheap money and cause even more cheapening of everything.
I am starting to think that the idea of communism is actually extremely capitalistic. Like capitalists would really dig communism, but communists would always be complaining and making excuses.
Crypto is mind bending.
No.
That won't happen.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Generation9
No.
That won't happen.
Collapse of Fiat currency is the desired result. It always happens in the end.
How many trillions of debt overburden before theres a reset / adjustment / crash?
I linked you to that other thread about the worlds gubments becoming disillusioned. They already are.
The US can't conquer the whole world, it doesn't have enough ammunition.