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Mueller Team In Possession of Thousands of Transition Emails

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posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 08:50 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Was wondering why this was newsworthy. Just normal emails..yawn



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posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: shooterbrody

Was wondering why this was newsworthy. Just normal emails..yawn

Hillary and her lawyers got to sift through her own emails before turning them over .
Not everyone is given that option..... Apparently.



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: theantediluvian




If Team Trump did call up friendly outlets to break this story (which is what I suspect), what would be the purpose of doing it at all if it's of no importance?


Violation of the Fourth, perhaps that is a good reason.

They also now have client privilege emails ... and that is just wrong.

Lastly, where oh where is the search warrant and when was it served. Oops.

P


Lol, 3rd party info in white caller crime cases are normal.

This is a panic move. Hence the crisis team Kushner has hired.

My guess kush is getting indicted.

Lol, another hack lawyer on trumps team.

Not looking good for the administration.

Look for some Nixon like moves next.



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: pheonix358

if they accessed client privileged emails muellers team will be in trouble again

with weissmans history i would not be surprised if he screwed this up


They were given the emails. And Mueller hasn't been in trouble unless your talking trial by media.



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:10 PM
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a reply to: luthier

given by whom?
or are you of the opinion trumps admin is not entitled to attorney client privilege?

this is interesting because it is not the first claim of muellers team taking privileged info

www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/10/trump-lawyer-slams-special-counsel-for-gross-abuse-in-manafort-raid-challenges-warrant.amp.html
Dowd also said agents seized “privileged and confidential materials prepared for Mr. Manafort by his counsel to aid him in his cooperation with the Congressional committees,” adding:

if true this investigation is done

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posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:11 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
They were given the emails.

Yeah, illegally. That's the point.



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:25 PM
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a reply to: WhatTheory

Lol. Nope...



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Right.

Well the defense team is entitled to try and build their case too.


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posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:28 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: theantediluvian

Being released on a Saturday tells me it's really of no importance.


Then why the sudden rush to discredit it as "illegally obtained" if it's of such little importance?

Damage control.


According to the GSA representative, the Trump transition team used GSA hardware and email addresses with the written (and signed off on - or at minimum they were given the information upfront) that their communications could be monitored and that it all belonged to the GSA. In addition, they were told to retain all the the information for the purpose of the investigations.

It's funny, but I thought everyone would be happy that "the truth is out" because that's what was said when wiki links published illegally obtained emails. Weren't we supposed to cheer on the transparency? I'm so confused...

And these weren't even illegally obtained!!!



“Our committee has direct jurisdiction over the Presidential Transition Act, and it simply does not support withholding transition team emails from criminal investigators,” the Maryland Democrat said. “The president’s lawyers have said they want to fully comply with special counsel Mueller’s investigation, so it is odd that they now suggest they would have withheld key documents from federal investigators.”

“Why are Trump's lawyers upset that Mueller obtained transition emails from a government agency? (Hint: They're just playing politics, but this is a bad sign for them.)," added former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti on Twitter.





The GSA — which is responsible under law for providing the presidential transition with office space, supplies like phones and laptops, and "ptt.gov" emails — was instructed after the transition had ended and President Trump had taken office to preserve records from the transition in connection with ongoing investigations.


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Specifically, Loewentritt said, "in using our devices," transition team members were informed that materials "would not be held back in any law enforcement" actions.

Loewentritt read to BuzzFeed News a series of agreements that anyone had to agree to when using GSA materials during the transition, including that there could be monitoring and auditing of devices and that, "Therefore, no expectation of privacy can be assumedd."

GSA initially "suggested a warrant or subpoena" for the materials, but that the Special Counsel's Office determined the letter route was sufficient.

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Methinks they are nervous...
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posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:30 PM
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originally posted by: AboveBoard

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: theantediluvian

Being released on a Saturday tells me it's really of no importance.


Then why the sudden rush to discredit it as "illegally obtained" if it's of such little importance?

Damage control.


According to the GSA representative, the Trump transition team used HDA hardware and email addresses with the written (and signed off on - or at minimum they were given the information upfront) that their communications could be mo I totes and that it all belonged to the GSA. In addition, they were told to retain it'll the information for the i rose if the investigations.

It's funny, but I thought everyone would be happy that "the truth is put" because that's what was said when wiki links published illegally obtained emails. Weren't we supposed to cheer on the transparency? I'm so confused...

And these weren't even illegally obtained!!!



“Our committee has direct jurisdiction over the Presidential Transition Act, and it simply does not support withholding transition team emails from criminal investigators,” the Maryland Democrat said. “The president’s lawyers have said they want to fully comply with special counsel Mueller’s investigation, so it is odd that they now suggest they would have withheld key documents from federal investigators.”

“Why are Trump's lawyers upset that Mueller obtained transition emails from a government agency? (Hint: They're just playing politics, but this is a bad sign for them.)," added former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti on Twitter.





The GSA — which is responsible under law for providing the presidential transition with office space, supplies like phones and laptops, and "ptt.gov" emails — was instructed after the transition had ended and President Trump had taken office to preserve records from the transition in connection with ongoing investigations.


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Specifically, Loewentritt said, "in using our devices," transition team members were informed that materials "would not be held back in any law enforcement" actions.

Loewentritt read to BuzzFeed News a series of agreements that anyone had to agree to when using GSA materials during the transition, including that there could be monitoring and auditing of devices and that, "Therefore, no expectation of privacy can be assumedd."

GSA initially "suggested a warrant or subpoena" for the materials, but that the Special Counsel's Office determined the letter route was sufficient.

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Methinks they are nervous...


Smells like someone just pissed themselves and it sure wasn't mueller!




posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:31 PM
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The best part?



...transition officials assumed that Mueller would come calling, and had sifted through the emails and separated the ones they considered privileged. But the sources said that was for naught, since Mueller has the complete cache from the dozen accounts.


Haha! Whoops, now its time to see what the transition team tried to hide!



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: luthier

so you deny trumps admin has the right to attourney client privilege?



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:36 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

www.aol.com...


Nope. Saying this isn't remotely illegal or under that claim.



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: WhatTheory

Lol. Nope...

Wow, what a stunning reply.



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:38 PM
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a reply to: WhatTheory

Well it wasn't much of statement.

More fox facts. They are about as good as msnbc.



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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Trump ran his mouth and insulted the 3 letters and it simply blew up in his face. The FBI followed every transaction with the russians for years that Trump did business with them. Death by twitter....fitting....




thehill.com...



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:41 PM
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no govt privacy statement supercedes privilege
we will see
they wont get any plea deals as all evidence obtained will be 86ed
and if they used this on flynn then flynn walks

great investigative technique



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: luthier

no govt privacy statement supercedes privilege
we will see
they wont get any plea deals as all evidence obtained will be 86ed
and if they used this on flynn then flynn walks

great investigative technique


Illegal transactions not reported to the IRS or DHs isn't privileged information. It's evidence in a criminal investigation.



posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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What's interesting is the info from the GSA was handed over in August. Why the outrage now?

Even more interesting, is the letter sent by the transition lawyer that apparently said this:


It asked for Congress to act immediately “to protect future presidential transitions from having their private records misappropriated by government agencies, particularly in the context of sensitive investigations intersecting with political motives.”


Protect future presidential transitions...

That language would appear to indicate they have no recourse in this situation and can only hope to have future transition teams protected.
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posted on Dec, 16 2017 @ 09:45 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

Lol,

Nope. Completely legal. Trumps lawyer is hack making a bs claim...


This is literally a common technique in white collar crime investigation to get information from a third party. Nothing illegal has been presented by the media at least.



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