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posted on Dec, 28 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: ttobban

I sold my 10k TRON at .015, not the smartest move apparently.

You're right, but it's more than smartphones. It's any device. They can control it all. Very interesting, and hopefully profitable, times ahead.




posted on Dec, 29 2017 @ 05:56 PM
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Just some more charting indicators that are causing me to buy up for a strong push in the northly direction.

Take a peek at the volume indicators under the chart... see how each of the spikes occur in 8 day gaps? Tomorrow is the next 8th day in the cycle, so I let the charts steer the guessing to be more of a prediction rather than a guess.



coinmarketcap.com...


It's just amazing how many coins there are to get into early, and I will remain happy as long as I am learning something new each and every day with this stuff. I have not missed a day of learning yet, and can't see an end in sight!

Emotionless charting... find a way to remove the emotion from it all, and we find that our plan going into it all remains on rails a lot easier.

XRP just took over 2nd spot in cap volume, and it's not going to give it up anytime soon. 2018 is Ripple's year!!! Looking like its going to start 18' at $2... which will be $5 by February, and likely $10 by the end of '18!



posted on Dec, 29 2017 @ 09:10 PM
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These videos being possible is the very reason I am on a blanket program of ICO's and cheap coins. I am nervous the tax ramifications of day trading are going to be too extreme to be worth paying.





More than the gains, my focus with investing is to reduce my tax burdens before rolling investments into focus' of gains. I am removing the personal obligations to crypto investing, and forming an LLC around it. Business' pay a less % of taxes than people do as individuals. An extra 6-10% to invest freely is an extra 6-10% working for a business.

If each trade is taxable, and the conversions are too then its a double taxation standard due to the gains being extravagant. Each buy and trade should be considered seeds that rarely move. Banks will be out of business in 10 years. Governments will always control the pipelines even though the internet having its own currency may be able to be decentralized... its a caution to keep crypto day traders on their toes on levels that need their own software management to handle all the monitoring and exchange rates.

My moves will be turtle-like over the next 20 years, and the tax savings are what's going to enable it more than anything else. It's a catch 22... the game of crypto is to gain volumes of coins more than value, and the chart flow trading is put to a grind when the taxes for each transaction aren't factored for. Good thing I am a good capitalist!

BE WARY & KEEP ON READING AND LEARNING... IT WILL SAVE OUR ASSES!!!
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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 07:13 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

is there a wallet I can buy ripple at right now? I mean sign up and buy like coinbase no verification bs with a long wait?

The few I have tried are either are not taking new sign ups right now or make you send them an id and utility bill then wait for them to verify?



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: notsure1

Coinbase and Brittex is what I use. Here is a video I used to get my scared (at first) feet wet.


Now I have read that there are people selling ripple on e-bay. I do not know the mechanics behind the sale like this. and how to get into a wallet.

I would suggest getting a coinbase and bittrex account. I buy litecoin/bitcoin on coinbase then get an address from bittrex and move my coins to it. Then I can buy any crypto or altcoins I want bittrex sells. Expect a 3 week wait they are super duper busy.

Now coinbase is hinting that they may add ripple, we will see. Look into Stellar Lumens, kinda like ripple but still around .33 cents. They have a product that is being used and seem to be a good buy.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 08:00 PM
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Do you think that we will (quickly) get to the point where we have our general motors-ford-toyota-monsanto-google.....of crypto and most newbies will be priced out?

I get the feeling that the next 3-6 months regs and normal consolidation will put an end to many of these 300% days that I have seen over the last 3 months I have been "awake".

In other words do you see an expiration to the "wild west" you and i have seen for the last 1/4 of 2017? I feel we are at the beginning, but I wonder if it is going to gobbled up by whales in a hurry.

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Cardano is on a tear. What do you hear about digitalnote xdn?


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posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 09:15 AM
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a reply to: notsure1

I am becoming a bigger and bigger fan of binance each day. The asian markets are the real pumpers of crypto right now, and my most solid gains have been coming from binance as a whole.

The best way to find where to buy particular crypto's on exchanges is coinmarketcap.com. Click on the coin/token you're interested in, and click on the link that says 'market', and it will display where to buy each coin specifically. Because this is the wild west and not very well consolidated yet, people are being rewarded financially for going out and getting the coins we want. Also, click on the link of the websites for each coin on the site to, so you can read up on what the coins purpose and function is.

Part of the problems with these early stages of crypto are ICO's being able to be created out of thin air too easily. Just be careful about what you're buying into, as some of them are even not offered to particular country's for various reasons. They may let you buy it, but they won't let you cash it out.



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 10:09 AM
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Well, I think Dark Web users built Bitcoin to what it is currently. I feel that block chain was created by AI to simplify funneling data to the highest level of probability. I feel humans used it to offset the lack of trust factors in financial networks. The banks have waged war on Bitcoin, and this caused the developers and influencers of block chain to move their newly targeted funds to the webs of other block chain technologies. What I mean is, all the money we are making now is coming from the efforts of what the dark web users are spreading foundations with.

Banks simply won't be able to keep up with the swift changes and will be out of business in 10 years. Governments on the other hand will always control the pipelines, no matter what the users scheme up. So for me, the ultimate goal comes down to lessening and or eliminating the tax burdens that are excessive while maximizing my gains on the end that can't be stopped.

Yes, I feel that the best coins that stick around forever or a long time are going to be the ones consolidating services to other coins... creating a network of say 6 coins or so that operate on a network. For instance, my stake on Cardano is specifically set up for merger and acquisition times... for when the cost of bitcoin block chain becomes too expensive and it requires the use of Cardano technology for it's gen. 3 network. Almost all businesses end up with about 5 or 6 dominant players, and crypto will be no different.

I agree... tax time will be deadline to have bets laid in place for the last of the drastic increases across the board. There will still be good coins to get into, but it will be fewer and further in between gains like are seen now. We have to keep in mind too, that these coins and trading patterns are not following all of the rules of centralized banking concepts like we know of them to be. That means, anybody predicting what AI will create of all this for us as humans is predicting a schedule of which the human brain can't process yet. One thing I won't invest in is country tokens... since it's nothing but a centralized network comes from it.

We are already the barnacle to the whales, and simply attaching ourselves to the network that mandates that whales need to insert their typically hidden wealth to gain anymore... I have welcomed this aspect gladly. That 1% controls over 50% of finances on the globe... I am quite happy to be getting anything of what they can't hide anymore, as it's the 1st time in history this has happened.

I have not heard of XDN, but looked at their buildup... they look like a decent buy. A low circulating supply with a low cap rating means there is room for the value to bridge upwards to connect the 2. I'd like to get into more of these, but which one doesn't seemingly matter as much in these times... it's like they are all gaining. When one or 2 of mine are impulsing, the 3 or 4 others that are consolidating are not bringing down my balance... it's just a matter of looking at which one is in impulse each day. Today alone, I have TRX, XVG,ENJ, up over 20+% in the last 24 hours.

Tron (TRX) is my latest favorite. It's ran by a guy named Justin Sun, who is very well known in the tech world in China and is directly connected to Jack Ma from Alibaba. It's hitting 4 cents now, but won't be forgotten in 3 years. In mid '18, TRX will essentially paying out dividends to coin holders. That means, that coin value will be growing without market influence alone... that's a factor that next to nobody is considering right now, but will be damn sure they remember if they are in on this end of it. Getting into TRX now, is like getting into XRP at 4 cents.

Like you said though... the wild west factors will be coming back to Earth mid '18. Where the influencer's of block chain wealth moves the battlefield is really a tough cookie to predict. As long as I am learning more each day, I am confident I will be moving the correct way around governments attempted control of it all. I will be learning the laws around all this as well. One could say that my new business venture of a GPU mining Alt coins in one room of the house allows for a great number of write off's come tax time. LLC's and the U.S. are the single best way to establish wealth. Business' pay less taxes as compared to individuals, and therefore have more capital to work with in open markets. People investing as a personal entity will pay the heaviest price on gains... I will not be one of those people.

This crypto will just turn wealth to a multi-channel entity acroos the platforms of worlds created. In 20 years it will not be odd for someone to live a physical world of poverty like conditions, yet can hop into the VR and augmented reality worlds as a very wealthy individual. Some people will be geniuses in the VR world, yet won't even know how to wipe their ass properly in the physical world. It's just really tough to imagine how wealth across worlds can be so drastically different depending on which one a person is in, and it's tough to imagine because the experiences will be new for humans... but each and every human will be going through this, instead of a select few.



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

I probably skipped the thought as I ramble quite a lot, but you are thinking like a whale and will be rewarded for doing so. The whales are spreading into what they feel will be the top coins, so you're already thinking what the whales are doing... that's a great thing. Think about it... you are asking where it's going while most others around you are asking what the hell block chain is. Because those 6 or so coins will consolidate at some time in the future, the gains will drop drastically.

The real wild west right now is on unregulated ICO's. A dangerous game, but is seeing gains that are 5x the typical crypto gains. '18 will be the year of the regulated ICO's, and an ICO will have much harder hoops to jump through when trying to launch.



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 10:39 AM
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We are indeed barnacles. And the biggly invested hard asses are for sure scheming to game the crypto world just like wallstreet. I wish people would scrape $1000 and look, study and invest, this could literally change their life and their children's lives.


We are already the barnacle to the whales, and simply attaching ourselves to the network that mandates that whales need to insert their typically hidden wealth to gain anymore... I have welcomed this aspect gladly. That 1% controls over 50% of finances on the globe... I am quite happy to be getting anything of what they can't hide anymore, as it's the 1st time in history this has happened.


I pulled the trigger on Verge. And I am looking to pull the trigger on digitalnote. Ripple, stellar, cardano, and reddcoin are killing it. I fully expect all but reddcoin to keep performing well. Reddcoin is a darkhorse that I bought for the fin of it. I feel the same way about digital notes.

And you posts are awesome. Are you talking about creating an LLC to fold all the investments into for protection from our voluntary tax system?



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 10:53 AM
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Try to move in on TRX before it spikes. They just signed a contract with China's largest bike sharing network. The creator of Etherium has already stated that he's going to work on the Tron project after about 5 years with Etherium. It still hasn't spiked, and mid '18 is when they start their dividend token program. I will be getting in on Stellar after the new year, and RDD a bit as well. I like the penny tokens, because they move in larger percentages than the high value coins do.

Anything I invest into gets an LLC formed around it. It's the Trump strategy and his presidency correlated to me the importance of toting the line of law with taxes. The IRS wants us to claim 0, because they get to use the capital before we even do... their lack of trust to let us pay our taxes is so abundant, that they take it before we get it... that's BS, and I am done with it.

I will link a video that smacked me in the face about taxes, and it steers my financial inolvements full steam now...


play this in the background...



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 11:04 AM
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Crap the bed, tron isn't on bittrex. I will have to get in line with all the newbies. What exchange did you use for the buy?



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 11:08 AM
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Now as it relates to crypto and my business involvements in it.

I file for an EIN feds and file with the state to become a legit business at a cost of a few hundred dollars. I set up an office in my house, which allows me to write off a portion of housing payment. I buy all the equipment to mine coins like Burst... which is cheap as hell to mine and has a lot of room to grow. I write off the equipment purchased to mine with. I file and pay taxes according to law. If I can write off the full lease of a gas guzzling car that weighs over 5500 Lbs., then I am going to lease a car just for the write off. It's crazy to provide incentive for using gas hogs, but the laws are retarded and its not the consumers job to provide the moral factors of taxes.

Say the business earns a loss due to expenses offsetting the gains? Well a business write's it off. A personal being still pays 28% taxes on the meager gains that were there to begin with. It's a sad state of affairs when being on the winning end of it requires learning a game of loop holes, because there's a lot more good people suffering from it than are benefiting from it. Good people shouldn't have to learn the ways of the wicked to end up with balanced resources, but its a reality in life that seems to be repetitive. I am hoping AI fixes the errors of the humans, but none of us will understand what they are creating around us... kind of ends up like a makeshift government of humans in the end.



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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I am switching to using binance primarily, because it's where the asian markets are predominantly and the asian market is about 74% of total crypto volume. Because Asia is ahead on these things, I am using their platforms and forward thinking coins and seeing better results for that reason.

When on coinmarketcap.com, click on the coin. Next, click on the 'markets' tab and it will tell you what exchanges you can get the coins on... it lists the volumes and prices of the coins on the exchanges as well.



coinmarketcap.com...


Try to stay away from the exchanges that process low volumes of a coin...



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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People are thinking about the money side of crypto, and I am already thinking beyond that because I am fully convinced that children born this day will not know a fiat system beyond researching history.

A few months back Saudi Arabia made the 1st citizen robot in history. Why? Because citizens are workers of the state and can be taxed as such. Well, this AI robot now has its own coin... AGI. AGI is my single most desired coin, and will max out on buys I can afford when it hits the exchanges... the ICO sold out in just a few minutes.


singularitynet.io...


Saudi Arabia is essentially the first country to let computer algorithms work the crypto scene for gains and parlay the gains to government fiat needs. They are doing so because AI will work at and achieve rates that the human brain can't comprehend. The reason I want the coin, is because I know it's going to be mingling with all the networks to benefit its own value. It will be smart enough to move funds in times of turmoil to shut down deceitful practices. Humans will look at things as networks being bogged down or slow, while AI is regulating the impulses with garbage traffic to keep the network as a whole from taking a hit. The capabilities of AI are just insane.

The AGI token will be used to link external AI sources to the Singularity network. That single AI robot citizen can be linked to all AI sources, to learn and educate on. The tokens are going to be trading AI services in an import/export fashion that we know of now.

AI will take over commerce, and build products themselves... The only cost to goods will come from raw materials and electrical costs. There will be a universal income for all humans, and those invested in block chain platforms won't require a need for that income.

Block chain is nothing more than building blocks being assembled on a digital turf... it's just at the point now to where it has actual value. I am looking to create a VR media platform one day with all this, so I am looking to build as many blocks as possible one could say.

The largest concerns I have on the negative side of the switch is people having to find a completely new life to find a sense of worthiness... people love to leave behind legacies because they last beyond life, but AI will be handling all these aspects from here on out. It isn't the financial aspects that will burden humans, because most goods will be dirt cheap or close to free as possible in 20 years. People not able to connect well with their 'Inner-cellves' are going to have a hell of a time adjusting to the new AI takeover.



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 03:21 PM
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Mind blown. AI could used as a tool to truly free humans or a curse and enslave/kill many more. I do like the talk of universal income coming from silicon valley. I do not think a universal income will come without much blood shed.

There is a theory that fiscal conservatism is a quickly dying antiquated ideology. And if what you/we see coming is even close, it is.

With automation, very little need for human sweat to make things, universal income, and no need to pull yourself up by your boot straps, there will be a need for conservatism 2.0.

The relatively small amount of $$ I am putting into the solid coins that have a workable product, it seems to be like sitting with Jeff Bezos in 1993 and going all in with the sale of books and being partners.



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 03:55 PM
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Yeah, fiat currency is a dying entity because its value continuously drops. I prefer to invest in things that have value, and I don't trust that fiat has any, where this crypto currency does. I agree, especially being Americans, that the USD won't go out without a fight. The reality to me is that fiat will still be needed... it will just be a harsh situation for people to adapt and get used to. Just like is going on with Bitcoin now, AI will shift the burdens of the problems created by humans to a new channel if it tries to block it.

I wish for crypto regulation and the creator of Bitcoin to present themselves to us humans as soon as possible. It makes me kind of nervous that the world's economy is going to shift to a platform of being anonymous... people deserve to know who Shatoshi is. the reason Shatoshi is an unknown individual or group is because their banking ledger reveals all of the world's largest criminals since they are the dark web users.

Apparently the coding of block chain is so complex, that there might be a handful of people on Earth of which could complete the project to its end. Being that there's so few people capable I feel that block chain was created by AI, and the whole internet will be block chain based in the future. Any of the webs we know of now will be intranet servers that are specific to function. There is literally going to be a whole new virtual globe that has a central but decentralized access.

I am about to buy in on that KIN token you mentioned, because I think it's going to act like RDD soon. I am having to set up an account on a new exchange, but these coins are blowing up when added to the bigger exchanges... it's almost like we are getting rewarded for going out to obscure places to obtain these coins before the world finds out. Yeah, it is kind of like Amazon starting... I can see that.

To me, it feels like I was given access to the scheme from the movie 'Office Space' where they schemed up a program that shifts the fractions of pennies off to their account. It ends up going bad and they try to relieve themselves of the consequences of stealing money meant for another. Only with crypto, there will be no consequences beyond tax ramifications.



posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 04:10 PM
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I am hoping to buy digitalnote at less than 2 cents, so I am waiting. That did NOT pay off with verge. I should have bought yesterday and rolled the dice and got in at .18.

I look forward to the coming year but fully expect that this is close to the last gasp of the crypto free for all that we have been discussing in this thread. There may be some very good coins, but I have a feeling there is some big $$$ going to start to do what they do.


Happy New Year


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posted on Dec, 31 2017 @ 04:33 PM
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Yeah... it's tough to catch the tail end of the huge gains. You're still good with XVG @ .18. Verge will be in the dollars by this time next year. I am just wondering if that's going to be 1.50 or 15.00.

Good luck with Diginote... this year will be good all around indeed! Happy New Year to you as well! KIN is at 0.000452 right now, so it one penny is buying over 20 coins right now, and it's already the 66th ranked coin on coinmarketcap. If this one even gets to 2 cents the gains will be in the 1000's of %.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 08:01 PM
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I hope you were able to get a few bucks into Tron... it's starting it's climb.

This stuff is starting to feel like science fiction, so please verify that another person is seeing the craziest gains ever lately? It started out with the accounts moving by the tens of dollars of which I was quite happy with them. The last week has switched to gaining a hundred more a day though, and its blowing my mind.

To think that it's going to keep up like this through tax time or so is mind blowing. All my cannabis stocks are going nutty now that CA went full access on the 1st too!

I am very thankful for these times! I hope you're witnessing the same type of gains, and that all investors are too!



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