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The Owls are not what they seem

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posted on Apr, 29 2018 @ 08:08 AM
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Starting with this mysterious email, leaked to Wikileaks, in which Hillary Clinton is worried about violating the "Owl/Minerva Rule".


I'm surprised that no one noticed that the 1861 US Confederacy $100 bill portaits Minerva together with an owl.



-MM
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posted on Apr, 29 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation


Starting with this mysterious email, leaked to Wikileaks, in which Hillary Clinton is worried about violating the "Owl/Minerva Rule".


I'm surprised that no one noticed that the 1861 US Confederacy $100 bill portaits Minerva together with an owl.



-MM


OR because Minerva is the Goddess of Wisdom, war and education, those symbols were included in that portrait as a representation, including her helmet and a globe. lol.





posted on Apr, 30 2018 @ 02:46 AM
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originally posted by: ausername
THEY're watching this thread





OMG I # my pants



posted on Apr, 30 2018 @ 03:33 AM
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I really can't believe I missed this thread. Lol. Wow.

"The owls are not what they seem" is an old quote originally used by a popular show called " Twin Peaks". (Which the OP points out) Creator David Lynch and Mark Frost started a weird series that contains many rabbit holes.. unexplainable ones resulting in a huge cult following.

Stanley Kubrick is said to have ties to David Lynch, and Kubrick was involved in the creation of many movies involving the same type of elitist and widely unknown conspiracy rabbit holes.

Whatever the case, owls seem to be an important use of symbology to point out the corruption happening in our time.

Long ago, I created a thread which involved owls and aliens, and a movie called "the fourth kind". It was a sort of "paranormal activity" type movie that gave a "Blair witch" vibe.

It's only significant to me because it never set right with me. There is a reason for everything.

My very old thread can be found here

Thanks for sharing, sorry I missed it!
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posted on Apr, 30 2018 @ 06:44 AM
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They can spin their heads 180 degrees...all 'Excorcist' styilie.
They come out at night and make creepy sounds.
They control the rodent population and have really good hearing.
They fly silently.
Other than that, I think they are just odd birds.
That's all I have to say about that.
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posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 09:22 PM
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Jerome Powell chairs the Federal Reserve.

This is his wife. Notice the Owl.



Source



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: Skyfloating

Stop demonizing the owl.



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 10:46 PM
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a reply to: ColdWisdom

tell the demons to stop using it as their mascot



posted on Jul, 26 2018 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: Skyfloating

Great thread. I didn't have time to read it all, but I can contribute one point:

The "Owl / Minerva rule" is simply a way of saying "Think before you jump." I've heard that phrase before, mainly from overly-educated people.

Minerva would consult with her owl before making important changes or decisions.

The "Owl / Minerva" rule is just a way of saying don't commit to something irreversible without a lot of careful prior thought -- i.e. measure twice, cut once.

At least that is the interpretation I've heard -- I am pretty sure that it applies here.

BTW -- we can argue about that, but I think it is significant that, in the e-mail, H says "Minerva agrees" -- is that a way of saying "I agree", but in a particularly egotistical way? (Does H imply she has the godlike wisdom of Minerva?) Maybe. That would make a kind of unfortunate sense.



posted on Jul, 27 2018 @ 12:55 AM
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a reply to: dashen

What about all it’s non negative historical associations? Should history’s ascended masters be looked upon as demons because of some new wave cabal’s feeble attempt at reprogramming symbolism?



posted on Jul, 27 2018 @ 12:58 AM
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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Yup, makes you wonder why "they" would put such a tiny owl on the one dollar bill. Has to be an inside reason. It's there for some kind of symbolism.



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 01:32 AM
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Interesting thread, some of the posts joined a few dots for me in my own research . So I'll just give something in return.

Just keep in mind I am not a book reader and work in the field "occultly" one might say.

My interest is in the Underworlds rather than old gods and legends.

Below the hells is a favourite Underworld of mine. The silence there is a welcome respite from the psychic background noise of living humanity.

The view from there are plains surrounded by sulfurous yellow translucent mountains of glass. There is a lake on the plain fed by a stream. The "water" is putrid fluids of bodily decay and parts of people can be seen therein.

Looking upwards, the sky is black with a 90 degree criss-cross of bright yellow lines. Above the lines the sky is black. Shapes hang down like wire freezer baskets. They are the local hells below the churches.

This Underworld was not always like this. It was once like the Elysium fields, or perhaps the fields of flowers.

Something happened long ago. The yellow lines and black sky do not belong.

That is the lay of the land.

The "crow" and his infamous invocation, the sacrifice of children and their sexual slavery,, the "greys" and occult groups.

These things have Muloch behind them.

The hell's are artificial, created by horror and trauma. He'll has a "flavour" all of it's own. So where do we find that elsewhere?

In the world of Moloch.

The world of Moloch is a sphere of seven layers, each a hell, between each layer is a grey mist. Atop the sphere is a black pillar, and atop of that is another sphere. Within that upper most sphere you'll find Moloch. He looks like the devil.

That is the world of husks and rinds, the Quillthoth of the Kabbalah, I cannot say for certain, but my guess is so

That was once Ahriman's domain, not Moloch's.

A word on Ahriman. He is never far away and my own knowledge of him comes from an encounter. Once while trying to close down a small black lodge, I was loosing the battle until noticing a big dark presence beside me.

"Why are YOU helping me?"

Ahriman's reply was simply; "I don't like competition."

Ahriman has a sense of humour. He is also the great corruptor.

How Ahriman works is to corrupt the self corrupted and lead them to their own destruction. One might say Ahriman is a "natural force" if you like yet intelligent nonetheless.

Ordinary folk need not fear Ahriman, for he has his sights on bigger fish.

I groked a lot that day.

The hell of earth was to be the eighth layer of Muloch's world, that is why they build it in Muloch's worship.

Evil is a fact of life to a certain extent, but not the likes of depravity hidden away unspoken.

Things can change is all I'll say.


edit on 24-10-2018 by Whatsthisthen because: fixed stupid typos and autocorrections



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: Skyfloating

O - OPRESSIVE
W- WORLD
L- LEADERSHIP.



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 06:26 AM
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a reply to: ALSTA

Short and sweet, almost within the attention span of our readership.



posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 07:47 AM
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a reply to: ColdWisdom

Which non- negative historical associations are you referring to?
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posted on Oct, 24 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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Thought I would just think aloud. I'm trying to connect a few more dots.

Since Moloch equates with Marduk and a few other Sumer god's, I am thinking that the world of Moloch may equatte with Nibiru.

The seven layers of hell with the grey mist between are not like the idea of "levels" as say; the new age and occult idea of physical/aetheric/astral/mental/spiritual/and so on.

The layers of Moloch's world are largely the same. At the very core is a planetary corpse reminiscent of our moon in looks. The layers are arranged around this core.

The layers are built up over time. I know this by looking at what is in the layers. The horrors in there are not really demonic in the modern sense. If one looks at what happened to the "people" it was extreme trauma in a sense. In each layer the modus operandi is the same yet the "people" who suffered are different.

So, from observation it looks very much like this creation of layers happens over time.

I mentioned in my post above that Molock's world had seven layers and Earth's (our) hell was to become Moloch's eighth level.

I would suggest that if this is indeed so, then there would be a cyclic aspect to this where Moloch's world would gather the hell from here and make it Moloch's own. A gradual building of layers over time.

So, it stands to reason that Moloch's world approaches our world on a regular basis, I would suggest seven times so far.

It may be an attraction that is the basis of approach. Perhaps people need to build a hell here and fill it full of trauma and horror until it reaches a certain threshold. People would need to work at this for thousands of years to accumulate that much suffering. Ritual sacrifice, torture and so on as the tools required. That of course needs organisation through history. Knowledge passed down through generations.

If I go looking in the afterlife for lost children who were sacrificed for their blood, one can find LOTS. If one used ritual black magic as a common denominator the number is too huge to contemplate, countless beyond the ability to see. In blocks of a million one counts almost a hundred. Yet just a ballpark estimate.

We can also classify them according to epochs and there are seven changes in the "people".

I say "people" because there are Nature Spirits and others mixed in amounst the victims. The various magicks and technologies of the various times.

If the cycle is fixed, say 3,600 years between Moloch's visits, then one can begin to calculate a beginning. If this is the eigth epoch, then that is 8 X 3,600 which equals 28,800 years ago approximately that the first layer of Moloch's world was built. If we take the time before Gilgamesh as the last visit, then we can begin to understand in a historical way. There would have been a date when Moloch first arrived.

That there are layers of grey mist between the layers of horror in Moloch's world also suggest periods between when the next layer of horror was being built.

I said I would say no more at the bottom of my last post, that refers to what is being done about this cyclic state of affairs. Let's just say that it is too big for me to understand properly, I just see pieces.

The Civilisation that preceded Moloch's arrival was shattered. It is also being put back together. The Nature Beings too want this stopped and so do I. I just help out as I can. The welfare of the victims is my little part. I've written of them a lot on ATS.

I've mentioned "greys". Whatever those things are I am not sure. Some aspect of that are animated thought forms, some seem corporeal, some are something else. I am fairly certain they arrived with Moloch. Or perhaps "Moloch" arrived with them.

I could waffle on forever, but I will draw a line here, it is getting late.

I hope I have not horrified anyone, rather this was meant to say; Something IS being done to end it. That is not to say this is the first time. Moloch is not a pushover and whatever "greys" are needs to be delt with too.

I'm not an authority by the way, just an ordinary person who likes kids and nature spirits and doesn't want to see them hurt any more. Just helping out and getting treated to a few insights now and then.

You guys know more then I on Sumer and other things. Perhaps my words and experience can help understanding of the past and present.


edit on 24-10-2018 by Whatsthisthen because: clarity typos and stupid autocorrect spellchecker doing it's own thing.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: Skyfloating

Hey bud I found a good one this time.



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posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:16 AM
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a reply to: dashen

Oh boy I found a good one

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posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 07:18 AM
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originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
Interesting thread, some of the posts joined a few dots for me in my own research . So I'll just give something in return.

Just keep in mind I am not a book reader and work in the field "occultly" one might say.

My interest is in the Underworlds rather than old gods and legends.

Below the hells is a favourite Underworld of mine. The silence there is a welcome respite from the psychic background noise of living humanity.

The view from there are plains surrounded by sulfurous yellow translucent mountains of glass. There is a lake on the plain fed by a stream. The "water" is putrid fluids of bodily decay and parts of people can be seen therein.

Looking upwards, the sky is black with a 90 degree criss-cross of bright yellow lines. Above the lines the sky is black. Shapes hang down like wire freezer baskets. They are the local hells below the churches.

This Underworld was not always like this. It was once like the Elysium fields, or perhaps the fields of flowers.

Something happened long ago. The yellow lines and black sky do not belong.

That is the lay of the land.

The "crow" and his infamous invocation, the sacrifice of children and their sexual slavery,, the "greys" and occult groups.

These things have Muloch behind them.

The hell's are artificial, created by horror and trauma. He'll has a "flavour" all of it's own. So where do we find that elsewhere?

In the world of Moloch.

The world of Moloch is a sphere of seven layers, each a hell, between each layer is a grey mist. Atop the sphere is a black pillar, and atop of that is another sphere. Within that upper most sphere you'll find Moloch. He looks like the devil.

That is the world of husks and rinds, the Quillthoth of the Kabbalah, I cannot say for certain, but my guess is so

That was once Ahriman's domain, not Moloch's.

A word on Ahriman. He is never far away and my own knowledge of him comes from an encounter. Once while trying to close down a small black lodge, I was loosing the battle until noticing a big dark presence beside me.

"Why are YOU helping me?"

Ahriman's reply was simply; "I don't like competition."

Ahriman has a sense of humour. He is also the great corruptor.

How Ahriman works is to corrupt the self corrupted and lead them to their own destruction. One might say Ahriman is a "natural force" if you like yet intelligent nonetheless.

Ordinary folk need not fear Ahriman, for he has his sights on bigger fish.

I groked a lot that day.

The hell of earth was to be the eighth layer of Muloch's world, that is why they build it in Muloch's worship.

Evil is a fact of life to a certain extent, but not the likes of depravity hidden away unspoken.

Things can change is all I'll say.



"Black Lodge" as in Twin Peaks?

Did you manage to close it down and if so, how?

Do tell. I'm all ears.



posted on Oct, 25 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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"Black Lodge" as in Twin Peaks?

Did you manage to close it down and if so, how?

Do tell. I'm all ears.



"Twin Peaks?" I can't say as I never watched the TV show.

Closed it down? I can't say positively for that one either.

What I wanted was to stop it from hurting and enslaving Nature Spirits and using them to do their dirty work.

From my perspective, magicians, black white or brindle have a habit of not developing their own selves but instead focus on using captured spirits. These spirits could have been captured milenia ago and passed down through the ages within the coven, lodge or church for use in ceremonial and ritual magic. The Church of Rome had a period where it would build it's churches over the sacred places of "pagans" for instance. Consecration included the local landscape "god's".

So, for me at least, forced labor is forced labor, period.

Anyway, I used to scry using a black stone with the black lodges and appear as just another dark shadow on the walls. One had to keep one's thoughts to one's self and control one's pheromones or you would be found out.

How I found out the locations was by being given the location by fairy folk. They wanted their friends freed and I am happy to do it. Generally underground for black lodge types, above ground for churches.

One stayed as a shadow on the wall untill one had enough info to proceed.

The weakness of ceremonial magic is that it involves participants linked together in fixed positions. That is so of both white and black ceremonial magicians.

What I generally found with the black lodge was the object of their working generally stood in the centre of a circle of magicians who controlled. They also thought they were in control.

Surrounding them were more circles expanding outwards. All focused on the circle within. I always had the sense that each circle was unaware of the circle surrounding them. Everyone thought they were in control.

Once one knew the lay of the land, one brought sulfur and fire into play by simply burning the whole lot starting with the center circle and working outwards untill there was nothing left. Yet making sure not to hurt the little shadows here and there.

Sometimes one would incorporate the herb yarrow to augment one's own perception and intelligence. The Nature Spirits of yarrow are specialists in the light of sulfur.

In Anthroposophical science, bio-dynamic agriculture for instance, material sulfur is regarded as a Light Bearer in the Household of Nature. So too phosphorus for that matter.

So by combining sulfur and fire the Spiritual Light (as Anthroposophical thought might call it) of sulfur was set loose one might say.

Hell is not a place of fire and brimstone, that is hogwash simply because I know what fire and brimstone does to certain types of corruption.

Perhaps one might say that in the absence of light certain corruptions grow unchecked. So set fire to the place to brighten it up and bad things no longer grow.

I never liked to involve other Nature Spirit folks in these things simply because it would put them in danger. Yet sometimes one needed more knowledge then I had, and sometimes the fire and sulfurous light had to reach further then I could reach. So the yarrow Nature folks helped while I kept the sulfur burning brightly.

Once the fairy folk were freed from captivity and control, and free from corruption, they would disappear going home presumably.

Generally there are consequences to doing this sort of thing like they come for you. Humans are humans. So wreck a lodge and then fight them when they came looking for the "whom did this".

It is worth it when you see and understand what humans do to fairy folk for power. Especially in the old days.

I don't think words and promises from humans mean much to fairies, we break our promises as soon as it becomes inconvenient. Actions speak far louder then words and standing one's ground in a fight with another human for a fairy speaks loudest of all. You earn their trust.

I never wanted to destroy lodges and magicians because of what they were, I only wanted them to stop hurting fairies and children.

Rescuing damsels in distress is romantic. The reality and horrors of war are very different.

That was over a decade ago when I did that sort of fighting, I work a little more economically now. I am getting old.



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