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#NotMe hashtag kicks off backlash to rash of sexual harassment claims

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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 02:26 PM
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In the past several weeks, we've seen the individuals comprising the "Me Too" movement come forward with accusations that led to the downfall of many prominent public figures. While some of these accused individuals admitted their mistakes, others have vehemently denied the allegations often citing a lack of evidence, lack of due process and use of public-opinion to levy arbitrary punishment against these people.

Regardless of what you're accused of, everyone deserves due process and an opportunity to defend themselves. The "Not Me" movement is providing an avenue for those falsely accused of harassment (or even actual crimes) to defend themselves.

IMO, this couldn't come at a better time. Just yesterday, a Kentucky lawmaker killed himself (after a battle with PTSD) following unsubstantiated claims dug up by a liberal hit-job group. The claims were investigated by police years earlier, and did not find the evidence required to initiate criminal proceedings. The fact these people would dig up unproven allegations (after a police investigation cleared the law maker) is unconscionable. There was another GOP lawmaker who was ousted for simply inquiring about surrogacy to his employees.

This bar has already been lowered in schools (prior to DeVos taking over, title IX was running amok), producing an entire generation that feels this standard is even remotely acceptable under our legal system. Laws should be passed to protect the innocent, including those not proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of a crime by a jury of their peers in a court of law.

It is time to restore checks and balances, and ensure the realm of public opinion does not become any more of a kangaroo court than it already is.

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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

The case for a false accusers register has been made stronger recently.


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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
There was another GOP lawmaker who was ousted for simply inquiring about surrogacy to his employees.


Are you defending this type of imposition on someone's employees or direct reports? What kind of out of touch imbecile asks his female staff to bear his children? Plus he admitted 'broaching the topic' with them.

As far as due process, it's still there, the government hasn't taken away anyone's right to a fair trial.










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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 02:40 PM
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I'm absolutely defending it, 100%. "Broaching the topic" as in floating it as a possibility, not offering quid-pro-quo or otherwise penalizing them for saying no. Which is surely why it only became an issue once the witch-hunts started.


As far as due process, it's still there, the government hasn't taken away anyone's right to a fair trial.


So I'm sure you see no issue with a false-accusers registry, then? As long as it is operated privately, of course.


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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
I'm absolutely defending it, 100%. "Broaching the topic" as in floating it as a possibility, not offering quid-pro-quo or otherwise penalizing them for saying no. Which is surely why it only became an issue once the witch-hunts started.


That is unequivocally harassment. You cannot ask your employees to bear your children. Only people with no common sense, or those looking to get laid by offering what they think is a legitimate 'excuse' try that.

You'd be cool if your old lady's boss or your daughter's boss asked if he could knock either one of them up?



So I'm sure you see no issue with a false-accusers registry, then? As long as it is operated privately, of course.


I'm not for any registry. If someone feels they have been falsely accused there is both the criminal and civil court system to seek various forms of redress.





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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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If you support a backlash against women who are coming out about abuse they've suffered, that pretty much says it all.

Partisanship has destroyed whatever human decency was there in the first place.



posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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There shouldn't be a backlash. What some of these women have had to go through is disgusting and so many women are coming forward at the same time is because they feel like now they can finally talk about it without a "backlash" finally!

If someone levels a false accusation then they should be punished heavily for it, but I'm seeing almost all of these cases are legit and finally these creeps are getting what they deserve.


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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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I'm absolutely defending it, 100%. "Broaching the topic" as in floating it as a possibility, not offering quid-pro-quo or otherwise penalizing them for saying no. Which is surely why it only became an issue once the witch-hunts started.


It moves past "broaching the topic" when after being told no, you ask three more times and go so far as to offer money to try and make it happen.

Yea, that's harassment.



posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:05 PM
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Prospective Employee: "Can you tell me more about the job's duties?"

Idiot Boss: "Sure, absolutely. You'll be doing data entry, some light filing, document preparation and accepting my seed."

Prospective Employee: "And there I was thinking I would never get my dream job."





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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:06 PM
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Wow.
I’m almost speechless...


Leave it to the beta males to “backlash” against a topic that should unite everyone except sexual deviants.


This isn’t “backlash”... it’s IngSoc newspeak for condone.

Wonder if MGTOW have any involvement.



posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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Prospective Boss: "No on the seed thing? That's okay, you're still hired and I'll check back weekly to see if you've changed your mind on it."




posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
IMO, this couldn't come at a better time. Just yesterday, a Kentucky lawmaker killed himself (after a battle with PTSD) following unsubstantiated claims dug up by a liberal hit-job group. The claims were investigated by police years earlier, and did not find the evidence required to initiate criminal proceedings. The fact these people would dig up unproven allegations (after a police investigation cleared the law maker) is unconscionable.


i see you're getting spanked well enough for the rest of your post, but this point also needs some clarification.


KyCIR reports that at some time after the alleged incident, "The Louisville Metro Police Department opened an inquiry, but detectives later closed the case, citing a lack of interest or assistance from the teen. She told KyCIR she never wanted the case abandoned." Detectives reopened the case months ago, following KyCIR's inquiries.


Kentuc ky Lawmaker Dies In Apparent Suicide Amid Accusations Of Sexual Assault
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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: underwerks there should be backlash for false accusations and I absolutely don’t feel one iota sorry for anybody who make false allegations.


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posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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So I'm sure you see no issue with a false-accusers registry?


What’s the criteria for that?

A not guilty verdict?
Or absolute proof of a lie?

How do you get that absolute proof without a confession or a solid alibi for the accused?



There will probably be about 4 people on that register.



posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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the time for people to come forward is immediately after the crime is committed. talk to the police and a lawyer to see what can be done to catch the perpetrator and bring that person to court.
get a police report and a medical examination and have a trial.

accusing anyone of any crime without evidence to support your claim is wrong.

it's good to remember that anyone can make a claim against anyone at any time for any reason. the claim can be real and it can easily be false too.



posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:11 PM
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originally posted by: agentblue
a reply to: underwerks there should be backlash for false accusations and I absolutely don’t feel one iota sorry for anybody who can’t prove any wrong doing.


False allegations should be investigated and prosecuted if that's what is found to have happened.

A backlash against every accuser (whether real or not) is something else entirely.



posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:12 PM
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I absolutely don’t feel one iota sorry for anybody who can’t prove any wrong doing.


So that would be about 93% of all rape victims?

What a lovely person you are.



posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:14 PM
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...accusing anyone of any crime without evidence to support your claim is wrong.


Nope. It really isn’t.

Not morally or lawfully.



posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:16 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Shamrock6


Prospective Employee: "Can you tell me more about the job's duties?"

Idiot Boss: "Sure, absolutely. You'll be doing data entry, some light filing, document preparation and accepting my seed."

Prospective Employee: "And to think I would never get my dream job."


Finally, I actually got a chuckle from one of your comments.

There might be hope for this site yet.



posted on Dec, 14 2017 @ 03:18 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Shamrock6


Prospective Employee: "Can you tell me more about the job's duties?"

Idiot Boss: "Sure, absolutely. You'll be doing data entry, some light filing, document preparation and accepting my seed."

Prospective Employee: "And to think I would never get my dream job."


Finally, I actually got a chuckle from one of your comments.

There might be hope for this site yet.


But did it leave an impression on you?




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