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originally posted by: Phage
originally posted by: Alien Abduct
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Alien Abduct
You seem to have a misconception of what a gravitational wave is. As did Lazar.
It is not a wave of gravity. It is a "ripple" in spacetime. A very tiny one.
What gave you the idea that I have a misconception of what a gravitational wave is?
Your sketch. It shows a spaceship projecting gravitational waves which attract the spaceship?
originally posted by: Phage
Your sketch. It shows a spaceship projecting gravitational waves which attract the spaceship?
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: Aliensun
It is painfully obvious that about any active UFO witnessed by humans is power by a means that makes them without mass. That, of course, entails a device within them that allows that feature. So it can be a bubble that produces a massless state and therefore allows for phenomenal velocities probably approaching SOL.
Sure. The theory is that "real" UFOs sometimes use a kind of "consciousness amplifier" to get where/when they want to go. Basically, the machine amplifies the imaginations of the pilots somehow and shifts the machine into the new reality. How this happens is anybody's guess, since we human monkey animals don't really consider concepts as having any inherent energy to amplify. But apparently the aliens don't have that limitation, and it bypasses that whole SOL thing because there's no real mass involved. You imagine where you want to go -- anywhere in space and time -- and you are just there. Pretty nifty.
originally posted by: Phage
That's how I interpreted it. But if you are able to generate (and "focus") gravitational waves you are messing with spacetime and if you can do that you can use the Alcubierre effect which will get you going a lot faster than falling.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: lostbook
I'm not sure how it would work. If you are stretching spacetime you are doing weird things to local gravity, seems you'd be stretching yourself too.
I don't really see where the acceleration would come from either. With a slingshot, the pellet is being pushed by the pocket holding it. Bent spacetime (gravity), as we understand it, doesn't seem to have a pushing effect. Pulling maybe? How is that different from falling into a strong gravity well?
originally posted by: Phage
You've been hitting that technobabble generator again. Admit it.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: lostbook
A couple issues:TheRedneck
- You are assuming that space-time exists separately from the spaceship, like how a rock exists separately from a sling. It does not. Matter is really little more than a permanent 'warp' in space-time. If one were to stretch space-time around a ship, they would also stretch the ship. When the space-time reverted to 'normal' (snapped back), the ship would do the same. Likely, no one in the ship would notice it even happened.
- A slingshot concentrates energy. When one pulls back on the sling, they are expending energy which is stored in the sling. When the sling is released,all that stored energy is then released into the rock, which propels it forward at a high rate of speed. Thus, the astronomical amount of energy needed to propel the ship would still need to be expended, and the result would be no more speed than if the same amount of energy were expended over time.
In other words, a slingshot does not make the rock go faster than if one were to continuously push it during its trajectory... it's just much easier to store and release the energy than design a rock which can be continuously pushed while it travels tens of meters away. That's no real issue for a spaceship.