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Yes, The FBI Is America's Secret Police

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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: introvert




Sure. Whatever oddball nutty nonsense you have to tell yourself


Well I sure don' trun around screaming dem evil russians are out ta git me.




At this point, you guys are not exposing some grand conspiracy that is taking place. You are only exposing yourselves as loons.


The only loons I see are those defending the FBI and still can't own up to losing the last election.
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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: intrptr

That's CIA. But while we're on that subject Never Forget Operation CHAOS.




CIA didn't exist yet. Paperclip not only brought over Nazi scientists, but a bunch of state security apparatus, ostensibly to counter Soviet KGB. This morphed into the CIA and trickled down to the FBI.

Back then FBI was national, CIA international.


The FBI has been international since World War Two. Roosevelt gave them the western hemisphere for intelligence operations, OSS had the eastern. FBI agents have been operating out of embassies around the world as legal attaches since the same time frame, and part of that job is intelligence.

Fun fact: there was a little known, yet monumental in scope, pissing contest between the military, FBI, and the dying OSS/newly born CIA over Paperclip. The Bureau and CIA were trying to poach the military's Nazis for their own uses, and the military was trying to hide who they were bringing out from both of those agencies.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: eisegesis

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

It's funny how many people are very supportive of law enforcement and the rule of law, until those officers that investigate and uphold the rule of law somehow play in to a conspiracy that does not bode well for their political agendas.


That statement is an OUTRIGHT LIE.


Unless you have something to back it up?


This entire FBI conspiracy is proof.

People support law enforcement and the law, but all of the sudden the FBi is part of some political conspiracy now that Trump and friends are being investigated and they begin to question the integrity of the FBI and the intelligence community.


To be fair, I think the right started turning on the FBI when Comey made his announcement about the Clinton email investigation.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: neo96



Well I sure don' trun around screaming dem evil russians are out ta git me.


True. You scream about Dems, socialists, the FBi and the deep state being out to get ya.



The only loons I see are those defending the FBI and still can't own up to losing the last election.


So you don't see any loons?



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: eisegesis

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

It's funny how many people are very supportive of law enforcement and the rule of law, until those officers that investigate and uphold the rule of law somehow play in to a conspiracy that does not bode well for their political agendas.


That statement is an OUTRIGHT LIE.


Unless you have something to back it up?


This entire FBI conspiracy is proof.

People support law enforcement and the law, but all of the sudden the FBi is part of some political conspiracy now that Trump and friends are being investigated and they begin to question the integrity of the FBI and the intelligence community.


To be fair, I think the right started turning on the FBI when Comey made his announcement about the Clinton email investigation.


Exactly. They didn't like their conclusion, so they began creating conspiracies about them. Now that Trump and friends are wrapped-up in their own investigation, it has only become worse.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: introvert


This entire FBI conspiracy is proof.

Your ignorant opinion is not proof, therefore your statement remains FALSE. Using all encompassing terms to judge people without providing evidence is a good way to make yourself irrelevant in a discussion.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:00 AM
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originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: introvert


This entire FBI conspiracy is proof.

Your ignorant opinion is not proof, therefore your statement remains FALSE. Using all encompassing terms to judge people without providing evidence is a good way to make yourself irrelevant in a discussion.


It is not my opinion that the FBI has now become the target of accusations of unfounded conspiracies, such as being in the back pocket of Hillary and the Left. That is fact.

As far as your claim that I am judging people, you are damn straight I am.

People that claim to respect the LE community and uphold the rule of law deserve to have their illogical nonsense thrown back in their faces when they concoct unfounded conspiracies about the LE community, based solely on their partisan political beliefs.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: intrptr

That's CIA. But while we're on that subject Never Forget Operation CHAOS.




CIA didn't exist yet. Paperclip not only brought over Nazi scientists, but a bunch of state security apparatus, ostensibly to counter Soviet KGB. This morphed into the CIA and trickled down to the FBI.

Back then FBI was national, CIA international.


The FBI has been international since World War Two. Roosevelt gave them the western hemisphere for intelligence operations, OSS had the eastern. FBI agents have been operating out of embassies around the world as legal attaches since the same time frame, and part of that job is intelligence.

Fun fact: there was a little known, yet monumental in scope, pissing contest between the military, FBI, and the dying OSS/newly born CIA over Paperclip. The Bureau and CIA were trying to poach the military's Nazis for their own uses, and the military was trying to hide who they were bringing out from both of those agencies.


You are right, they operate international, but if it is legal and good, that is another question.
I have a little example of two FBI agetns on a mission, right at a spot and at the same time Michele Kiesewetter, a german cop, was murdered, allegedly by the NSU. Everybody knows meanwhile that NSU means secrret services, the whole story is even more fishy as all the "muslim", "IS" terror attacks here were.

But yeah, it seems "coincidentally", that two "U"S FBI agents were there, and got ordered back right after the murder.
And for sure, allegedly they worked against muslim terror...

Here is a link with informations about the murder and the links to two FBI agents, i am sorry that it´s german:
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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: introvert

COINTELPRO, like Operation CHAOS, targeted liberal groups / MLK / anti-war activists / etc (and some actual commies I imagine too if you dig hard enough).


You are only seeing what you want to see



From 1956 through 1971, the FBI’s COINTELPRO program conducted thousands of covert operations to incite street warfare between violent groups, to get people fired, to smear innocent people by portraying them as government informants, to sic the IRS on people, and to cripple or destroy left-wing, communist, white racist, antiwar, and black organizations (including Martin Luther King Jr.).


Ignorance IS bliss



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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Like I said, your opinion is baseless and therefore irrelevant.

No links, no information, no facts.

...just a lot of HOT AIR.


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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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From 1956 through 1971, the FBI’s COINTELPRO program conducted thousands of covert operations to incite street warfare between violent groups, to get people fired, to smear innocent people by portraying them as government informants, to sic the IRS on people, and to cripple or destroy left-wing, communist, white racist, antiwar, and black organizations (including Martin Luther King Jr.).



originally posted by: TheMZA

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: introvert

COINTELPRO, like Operation CHAOS, targeted liberal groups / MLK / anti-war activists / etc (and some actual commies I imagine too if you dig hard enough).


You are only seeing what you want to see


Ignorance IS bliss



Funny you should bring that up, because we saw those exact tactics being used in this last election: BLM vs white supremacists and ANTIFA vs Trump supporters. We've been told Russia organized it, but someone much closer to home does have a history of pulling this kind of bull#.
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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: introvert

No matter. The only thing that matters is that they work for TPTB. Meaning you might question what the real agenda of "your" team really is.


Hint: the whole SJW Movement is fountainheaded by the same ilk of Robberbarron Elites that have had the entire government apparatus hijacked since pre-WW2.


You guys don't even know who TPTB are, let alone what they want or what matters to them.



And what team am I part of?


Actually, I have lists. Or at least I certainly know what they are, and I know what they're real agenda is (and believe you me it has NOTHING to do with empowering black babies and gay kids).

And you're Team Democrat Talking Points, of course.



a reply to: TheMZA

No. I was merely speaking directly to that other one. We're BFF.


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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6


The FBI has been international since World War Two.

Since the new global Dominance agenda, got it.

US should never have imported the NAZI police state apparatus. Look where we are today.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: neo96

You speak truth to stupid. But as well, the FBI isn't the only Federal Agency firmly controlled by the party of the Donkey. Don't forget the IRS, the CIA and the so-called "Justice" Department. And then theres the awful Regulatory agencies to lengthy to name, but you can start with the EPA, the EOC, etc.

That's what keeps me up at night, the fear the US will go the way of California, Washington State and Oregon to being a One Party State. When that happens, the US is pretty much doomed. Actually at that point, the CHICOM'S might look like a better alternative.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 02:02 PM
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People who think the FBI is part of some grand conspiracy to get Trump may or may not be accurate but Trump IS NOT a part of something that is fighting the TPTB.

Trump has aligned himself with a faction of TPTB—a faction with people like Adleson and other western and southern right-wingers.

The FBI may in-fact be a part of the plot to get Trump elected, by Comey’s declaration 8 days before the election that Hillary was still under investigation, right in the middle of her surging in the polls.

Trump, an ignorant man, has no clue about what swirls around him....Such as Comey is likely connected to the SMOM group, the Catholic right-wing power center. They are often aligned with the group Trump is with.



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