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How do Christians justify their taking the mark of the beast already?

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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 06:52 AM
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originally posted by: Plotus

originally posted by: jjkenobi
Wow. Such Smart. So Genius!

Yes, because using money (which has been in use since, well forever) is definitely the Mark!!

The actual Mark of the Beast is something that will cause you not to be able to enter Heaven. Using money is not that. It's going to be more like DNA alteration or Cyborg implants. Something that makes you not "human".


Then why did Christ give account of the woman giving her last mite (coin) as being more precious than those who gave of their abundance. Also Tithe's come to mind.


The parable of the woman who gave her last mite shows that her gift, although much smaller than the others, was worth more to Jesus because it was all she had. The rich people gave more but a very small % compared to what they had.

Tithing is giving back to God a percentage of what what we earn.




posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: 3n19m470

Well i didnt believe i was shouting! my answer as i believe it! the most powerful force in the universe is simply "love"
the government is influenced by industry and military concerns! i can't imagine what they are going to do with everybodys
information, every boring picture and texts and conversations of millions of people! maybe i'm wrong i have an open mind
and anything is possible! i like the convieniance of the modern world! religions and governments and some companys etc want power and
and are greedy and mean! but look tomorrow will come the sun will rise and the world will go on! its a dark vs light parable and light always wins
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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:29 AM
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originally posted by: luke1212
a reply to: Malevotronic

The mark will be on the forehead or hand. You will have to worship Satan and denounce god when you get the mark. Creditcards cash none of these require such as yet.


Forehead is filled with nerve clusters connected to the third eye. The hand can be used to flow chi. Abilities that do not manifest in the beings who care to much about this side of the veil.
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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: Malevotronic
The mark of the beast is that which allows someone to buy, sell, or trade goods or services or other monies. All Christians have credit cards, debit cards, checks, and certainly cash on hand.

They can say that it's not the antichrist's system. But it IS. Even if it's just the precursor to his system, which Christians believe, that just makes their excuse all the more profoundly hypocritical.



Mankind has been using money in one form or another since there was ever a such thing as trade. ...the beginning of time.

The mark is something on the right hand or forehead. I'm pretty sure it's very specific and mankind will know when it's 'the mark'. If it IS money of some sort, the it would be money of the beast. Who is the beast?

Currently you can buy and sell with a Credit Card
Currently you can buy and sell with Cash
Currently you can buy and sell with Coins

Each of the above has many forms from many countries. They are all considered "marks" and have been for over a thousand years.

Wiki


The mark was a currency or unit of account in many nations. It is named for the mark unit of weight. The word mark comes from a merging of three Teutonic/Germanic words, Latinised in 9th century post-classical Latin as marca, marcha, marha or marcus.[1] It was a measure of weight mainly for gold and silver, commonly used throughout Western Europe and often equivalent to eight ounces. Considerable variations, however, occurred throughout the Middle Ages.


So, for this prophecy, it would have to be VERY specific. Especially in a day and age when imagination (video game pixes and crypto currency) are also used as currency.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Malevotronic

I do not accept it, any christian would not accept it.


Not true. Even Christians will be deceived. I'm sure weak willed Christians would choose it as well to keep their family and loved ones from suffering. Just because one believes in Christ, doesn't mean he/she isn't a sinner. If they were not, they would have been Christ.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: anotherside
Watch this for a study on the mark of the beast. He describes as action with your hand and head.


Watch a video for over an hour to figure out just where in the video you've made your point?

How about you paraphrase it for us...



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Rapha
There are 3 types of Mark.
1) as members have mentioned - credit (SMART) cards with 666 barcode.
2) chip implants - still waiting for compulsory right hand chip.
3) forehead - nanites in bloodstream - completed via chemtrails.

Remember when 'eRevolution' Sci-fi series got canned when the super-computer nanites went online and covered the entire Earth in a 5G matrix ?

Ever wondered why the popular series vanished when viewers joined the dots and thought 'oh crap, we are screwed'.

Everyone who 'thinks' no to the Mark will have their brains eaten by the nanites. Similar to the experiment with the headless reindeer herd in Norway last year.


You went pretty deep down that rabbit hole did you


1 - There are multiple companies with their own credit card service in many countries. They are not owned by the same person.

2 - No evidence that a 'chip' is going to be a common thing and if it is, it would have to consistently be placed in the right hand or forehead.

3 - Nanites would travel all over the body if it's in the bloodstream, not just the forehead.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Malevotronic

I do not accept it, any christian would not accept it.



A.I. and immortality just around the corner. People will queue up for it. A.I a self aware intelligent system without feeling. we are building the ultimate psychopath.



posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 12:36 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 3n19m470

Thanks for that rundown. During one of my 'outdoors' phases my partner and I were stopped andI ID'd. The cops wouldn't let him go without proper ID which he didn't have. They were very flustered, kept pressuring him about his 'ID'.

They finally issued both of us citations for the same misdemeanor , mine had a court date, his didn't. On his 'ticket' under address the cops just wrote "Transient".

This is a get out of jail free 'identity card' , the 'state' didn't give him a charge , court date or fine because he had no home address. They only issue tickets to addresses so they can collect their fine or issue bench warrants for 'failure to appear'. I had a home address on my drivers license, so they can 'follow up' if I refuse to show up.



Lol, sounds about right. That pretty much sums up most law enforcement nowadays. Anything to make a quick buck for the system.



posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 04:39 AM
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My moto is"in God we trust,others pay cash" I'm not one for cashless transactions,need to go back to bartering,and I thing that day may be near,I hope not,because it won't be pretty



posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 05:27 AM
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What I'd like to know, is what is the image of the beast supposed to look like.

It no visible mark but this is close enough.

Raise the right hand, "swear to tell the truth,an nothing but so help you, God?

Or...

Cross your heart, and hope to die!?( Can't use the left hand, it the devil).
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posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 06:39 AM
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a reply to: Specimen

After 55 years of being a baptized Christian and student of prophecy, no one knows but we will when it happens.

I believe the beast represents tyrannical governments. The mark will be sourced from monopoly corporations. The mark will be a law, designed by the Corp, and enforced by their colleagues lawmakers, military, police. With social security numbers assigned at birth, drones, cameras, YouTube videos, there will be no place to hide. Trump has 3 more years asssting the corps toward that setup. He was elected to drain and destroy the swamp and redesign the government in the image of corporations.



posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 06:57 AM
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so we went almst 4 pages b4 anyone said the mark is Sunday worship....

read up on it to get to the crux

trump....we don't know yet about him....give him more time

the song by the Who......Imminence front, it's a put on......is exposing the catholic friggin machine
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posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: 3n19m470

Thanks for that rundown. During one of my 'outdoors' phases my partner and I were stopped andI ID'd. The cops wouldn't let him go without proper ID which he didn't have. They were very flustered, kept pressuring him about his 'ID'.

They finally issued both of us citations for the same misdemeanor , mine had a court date, his didn't. On his 'ticket' under address the cops just wrote "Transient".

This is a get out of jail free 'identity card' , the 'state' didn't give him a charge , court date or fine because he had no home address. They only issue tickets to addresses so they can collect their fine or issue bench warrants for 'failure to appear'. I had a home address on my drivers license, so they can 'follow up' if I refuse to show up.



Lol, sounds about right. That pretty much sums up most law enforcement nowadays. Anything to make a quick buck for the system.


I know, the charge was for weed, a ticket infraction back then. You're right, they didn't care about people or the scourge of demon drugs, they were just about the friggin money.

I could be located and he couldn't. I was an 'investment' for processing, he wasn't.

It gets better, we went together to my court date listed on my ticket but my name wasn't on the docket. I had to sit thru another whole session in a different court room and appeal at the end to the judge who reviewed my citation and issued another court date that I then showed up for where I was fined 300 dollars. I didn't know a bench warrant had been issued for failure to appear, either.

My "Transient" partner was with me the whole time, laughing his ass off.

When the system grabs you it holds on tight. It will get its pound of flesh, one way or the other. The funniest thing is it was over a couple joints worth of lo grade pot.
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posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: kurthall
a reply to: Malevotronic




No, the mark of the beast, is a mark that you have to take, proving your support, and loyalty to the beast, with out it you can not buy or sell.....without the mark, your accounts would be frozen.



correct. As a sign, we choose which day to honor Him. What day is it that the pope changed? When will it be enforced? Until then it is done willingly.



posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 08:19 AM
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originally posted by: GBP/JPY
so we went almst 4 pages b4 anyone said the mark is Sunday worship....

read up on it to get to the crux

trump....we don't know yet about him....give him more time

the song by the Who......Imminence front, it's a put on......is exposing the catholic friggin machine
i just got here.

Imo, an easy way to see it for what it is will be to wonder how the pope will bring islam in. First bring islam into the fold, then the Sunday laws to unite man. Forced immigration is just phase1



posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 08:20 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Specimen

After 55 years of being a baptized Christian and student of prophecy, no one knows but we will when it happens.

I believe the beast represents tyrannical governments. The mark will be sourced from monopoly corporations. The mark will be a law, designed by the Corp, and enforced by their colleagues lawmakers, military, police. With social security numbers assigned at birth, drones, cameras, YouTube videos, there will be no place to hide. Trump has 3 more years asssting the corps toward that setup. He was elected to drain and destroy the swamp and redesign the government in the image of corporations.


That just giving trump way to much credit, more then he deserves. It does point out that the Beast or dragon, has authority, weather it individual or group of individuals is up for debate.

Maybe it meant to depict the folly of man and it kingdoms, like the concept of facism, for example like Hilter, his image was worshipped by his beleivers and they did horrible atrocities in his name. Also the symbols and uses of Dragon are wide an abundant through alot of different believes. In eastern civilizations, the dragon is a symbol of divinity and of the Emperor, no different then Ra was to the Pharoah of Egypt during the story of Moses challenging him.

Although dragons are symbols of a never sated hunger for wealth in the west, it is used in coat of arms of royalty regardless of which anthromorphic form it takes.

Imo, the Bible or Revelations for that matter is leaning towards that the Dragon might as well be Man itself.

I'm more Pretism/historism kind of guy, meaning Revelations already happened thousands of years ago during the supposed existence of Christ walking the earth...or oceans in his case.

Maybe it the fear of history repeating itself, and going through the dark ages again.
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O yea and the symbol of the Whore, and prostitution being the oldest trade in kingdoms maybe a better indicator, which I believe is the symbol of our economy. After all, the economy love to leave one hanging, after sucking man, or earth dry.
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posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 08:33 AM
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for a list of Countries & their money Codes, see this link www.nationsonline.org...


presently there are only 2 codes used to identify all of the various monies used by the nations worldwide...
but with the Advent of Crypto-Coins/Currency ...

I Anticipate an additional 3rd Code to be added to the A Code & N Code now in use


It is interesting that the Vatican, AKA: 'Holy See' Now uses the EURO -> EUR - 978

Turkey uses -> TRY - 949..... just listed as examples, look up the Alphabet-Numberic code for your most-likely 666 culprit....

but the 3rd 'code' designation needs to be enacted to get the doom-porn prophecy # 6-6-6

bitcoin....ereithium....litecoin....???? Some future gold backed crypto-coin ???
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posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: kurthall

You just repeated what the OP said.



posted on Dec, 13 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

Yep. Mostly though, I don't blame the cops. I'm pretty sure they have to hit targets just like the rest of us in any job.

Sadly those targets don't seem to be based on fighting real crime.



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