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‘If homosexuality is OK, so is pedophilia,’ former Oklahoma City mayor tells TV show

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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Plenty of people feel abandoned by family and mistreated by their community and it leads to suicide for many. Look at what happened to that porn star who said she didn't want to work with men who had done gay porn out of disease concern.

She committed suicide after being mistreated by her community and she likely was abandoned by her family long ago for going into porn.

She committed suicide after intense bullying for expressing her professional wish.

She was not trans. I hardly think those issues you mention are unique to transpeople, but they are shared by people who are suicidal.
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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

That just proves my point that trans people's rates of suicide are consistent with how they are treated by others. They are often treated worse than the general population, hence the greater suicide rates. Fix that treatment, and you lower the suicide rate.

How do we fix the treatment? Education about the subject to demystify it, and non-discrimination laws to protect them is a good start.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 08:52 AM
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this ancient 3d printing
will help to understand what I'm talking about is not the allegorical form of this really existing reptiles who later adopted our disguise to them so it is more convenient to consume our children...This is not an allegory. Abraham gave birth to Isaac; Isaac begat Jacob; Jacob gave birth to Judah and his brothers.and so on, up to 1.2 billion nowadays. Allo we aborigines if we remain passive they will destroy us possibly together with the planet as before phaeton and mars
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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

In what way is he wrong? Gay people are proven to be sexually promiscuous with younger men and have an egregious amount of partners. The greatest trick the homosexual ever pulled was convincing the world he wasn't a pedophile, they are the height of sexual degeneracy. You don't have to be religious to see the community is rife with questionable sexual practices and transmittal of disease; pedophilia is just one of the horrible byproducts of their activities.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: bulwarkz

So men used to marry later, women earlier.

I believe this is the grey area being addressed and exploited. Saying Roy Moore is a rapist because of a proven liars lies is a crime, a very serious crime if he is innocent.
Calling him a pedophile is witch hunt name calling.

I say all this because i believe Roy Moores crime is he wanted to marry a virgin. I don't believe he could ever admit this in our present culture. It really is crazy to watch everyone pretend to understand this subjective morality thing we are doing.

I swear if Roy Moore was to admit he dated only virgins they would tar and feather him, and then punish him further.

Now this is all speculation of course


I could be wrong, but it seems old Roy didn't actually go to bed with any of these women and his sexual accusations are the fine print of the description with unwanted touching, unwanted kissing etc..

These things can be dead wrong to do, but also they can be the normal interaction between two people on a date when desired...



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Yes but that is no different than me wanting a tattoo at 16
smoking and drinking at 12
or having underage illegal sex at 12
I may have thought I knew what i was doing but never really considered the consequences of my actions
I just done them because it felt right at the time , all of my actions were completely illegal

why is this any different , where is the line drawn at what is considered out of the grasp of a child's mental capability
I mean hormones are infinitely more complex than learning to drive, having sex, or smoking a cigarette yet society seems to be completely against teenagers making those decisions.

Are children with body dysmorphia allowed to deteremine if they can have surgery for breast enlargement , reduction, rhinoplasty etc if they are under 16 , or is it their parents who decide ?

I am not against it, Im just saying maybe we should be looking at the legalities of all this , if not already



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: LiberLegit

A guy I know likes younger men , 18 year olds and he is in his 30's
he only goes for twinks as he calls them
he also tells me they have this drug now which prevents the transmission of HIV
Prep something cant remember anyway its prescribed in the UK.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

1. Gender is part of our core identity, unlike any of those other examples you listed.

2. Children and their parents don't make these decisions in a vacuum - there are a team of doctors providing therapy and medical/professional advice.

3. Children under age 16 don't get surgeries to change their sex, at least not in the U.S.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

A guy I know likes younger women, 18-20 year olds, and he's in his 40's.

I also know a gay couple who have been devoted to each other for 25 years now.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: LiberLegit

According to who?
Young people go through romances like some go through shoes. The younger they are the shorter the relationships usually are. They are searching, discovering what they want. Most young people, male, female gay or straight. Where are you getting that gays date more people than straight people?



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Core identity , what exactly is that ?
who is this person that you or anyone else is so strongly trying to identify with ?
Thats my whole issue with this, is who is trying to identify with what and what for
Why do they feel so strongly about identifying with anything , maybe i've had too much psychedelics and just dont get it

I was aware from previous threads that a great deal of consultation between doctor and patient is required before any changes take place before drugs then finally surgery . I guess from what I have learned is that yes there are laws and that there is consultation at every step along the way, I guess they just aren't widely known about to the general public ,much like the process of gender reassignment and the treatment there of.

Yeh I think that loads of older people love to date younger people , and vice versa , everyone has their preferences
some like everything etc.
My aunt is 20 years older than her last husband and had a kid with him.

The trans issue to me seems really just about acceptance by society as a whole , trans people want to feel accepted
as does anyone .



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: bulwarkz

I was a teen in the seventies. You'd have been single looking for a virgin over 17. Lol. That was before aids or even widespread herpies. If you caught anything back then penicillin would fix you right up. We had the pill and abortions were legal. Everybody was getting some.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Well thanks for #ing it up for the rest of us.





posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: kaylaluv

Core identity , what exactly is that ?
who is this person that you or anyone else is so strongly trying to identify with ?
Thats my whole issue with this, is who is trying to identify with what and what for
Why do they feel so strongly about identifying with anything , maybe i've had too much psychedelics and just dont get it


Try living as the opposite gender for a while, you'll soon see what I'm talking about.



The trans issue to me seems really just about acceptance by society as a whole , trans people want to feel accepted
as does anyone .


Trans people don't want to be abandoned by their families and friends, and they don't want to be treated like a freak and a criminal when they're not hurting anyone. Yep, pretty much like how everyone else feels.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Why though , I dont specifically live as a gender , Im just a human being who happens to be male
I dont identify with it , society identifies me as it !

Humanity has a whole lot of learning to be doing , and the way we are going about it I personally think is the wrong way.
people who are considered different will always be looked at like freaks. As for criminals , Im sure there is some backwards religious place where being trans is a crime , but where is it a crime in the west ?

and yes absolutely everyone wants to be accepted by society, by their peers, by the law etc
its a trait which is prevalent in every human not just trans people.
but of course trans people are in the long list of people on earth who are suffering at the hands of the rest of society
the trans issue has taken precedence in the west over things like world hunger, and poverty, homelessness
The trans issue is now far more important because of the rise in libertarian movements in the west
It seems more emphasis is being placed on this issue than anything else in the media at least.

Its quite upsetting though you cant really have a conversation with anyone about it in public for fear of someone suffering a micro aggression , all this Intersectionality or whatever the buzz word is.

That is if you actually assign to identity politics , which I do not as I rarely identify with myself as anything, other than a human being just trying to survive another day.
We are all human and I treat everyone as such , not sure I can speak for anyone else so , its on them really
however I do always do my best to inform other people , not alot of people are interested and just rather keep themselves to themselves and let whoever do whatever they like in the privacy of their own homes etc and as long as no one is breaking the law then we can all act like decent moral human beings



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

What can living as any gender teach me ?


that there are groups of humans who are #s to other groups of humans ?

to me identity , gender, its all bull# in the grand scheme of things.
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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: sapien82

A guy I know likes younger women, 18-20 year olds, and he's in his 40's.

I also know a gay couple who have been devoted to each other for 25 years now.


I think my neighbors have been together for 40 years...both are named Bob and I called then Bob√.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

HEHEHE BOB TO THE POWER OF 2

Although Id be heavily tempted to amalgamate their names into BOBOB


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just to add there about acceptance , the world would be a whole better place if people could learn to accept themselves through self reflection as well
not just with the trans issue but in everything
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posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

Change your name to a girl's name, wear dresses and women's perfume, paint your nails, put a ribbon in your hair. Talk like a girl, walk like a girl. See how long you can do it. If you don't identify as a male, then it won't bother you at all to do this for, let's say, a year or two?

When trans people can't get a job because they are trans, when they have trouble renting a house, when they are not allowed to use the public restroom that fits their gender identity, when they are bullied, shunned and physically attacked -- this is what I am talking about.



posted on Dec, 12 2017 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

They don't "date" more people than straight people, they have a disproportionate amount of sexual partners. I would post a source, but a cursory google search will more than speak for itself. It's such common knowledge, and it isn't about "finding themselves" it's about being disgusting sexual deviants. how do you think the onset of AIDS came about and other STDs? An insatiable lust for perverting nature, others, and themselves. It was the same with them years ago, and it's the same now.




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