a reply to: ketsuko
??? I didn't use "force" once in the post you just quoted.
Then you go on to say it's not communism because humans will never have actual communism, not the way robots would force it.
LOL I'm literally calling the robots "Communist AI" and "Communist AI robots" in my posts. So how am I claiming it's not communism? Now I'm suspecting
that you aren't actually reading my posts either.
Although for the record, the OP is describing the communism spoken of by Marx and Engels in the 1840s. You don't seem willing to accept that Leninism,
Trotskyism, Stalinism, and Maoism are completely different from what Marx and Engels spoke of, even though I've already mentioned why that's the case.
The OP even pointed out that it wouldn't be a North Korean type of pseudo-communism by literally saying "None of those fake communism stuff esp from
North Korea." Yet you've ignored this time & time again, too. It's like talking to a wall.
It basically sounds to me like you want everything provided to you without having to work for it so you can do whatever you darn well please. So more
or less you want all the icky responsible stuff to be lifted off your shoulders so you can just basically play all day.
(facepalm) Do you even know what communism is? Everyone in the community works together for the benefit of the community, including deciding what
goods/services the community needs and then creating enough to fulfill those needs.
However, the OP is talking about an AI-robot controlled society based on communism (this is literally taken from the title). The OP even mentions that
the robots won't be overlords or leaders & instead would be among the people, meaning they'd likely implement their form of robot communism by working
in the community too. How is "AI-robots that work to fulfill the needs of their respective community" any different from automation? If anything, it's
"willful automation" since the AI robots are the ones who want communism in the first place.
Also, what fool wants to work their lives away just to survive? There's nothing noble, cool, or admirable about having to do menial work just to
provide for your family when we have the technology and resources to make that "work or die" BS obsolete
. That's called "being conned". If in
this hypothetical Communist AI driven society you and your allies want to do menial labor just to survive, then go for it. But don't act surprised
when other people would rather spend their lives doing something meaningful rather than continue working dead end jobs just to make rich investors
I would have no problem doing 2 or 3 hours of community labor per day if I knew the fruits of that labor would be shared equally among all of
society's members (excluding you & the other "work or die", of course). In fact, I already did that with my urban garden since I gave away almost all
of the food it produced. But I'd also enjoy it even more if I had some highly productive and highly efficient AI robots choosing to do the majority of
work, which is how I interpret the OP that you seemingly haven't even read.
I don't know about your beliefs, but I don't believe for a second that God put us on this planet to waste our lives doing BS "9 to 5, busy-work" jobs
when we could instead spend our time being better parents, learning the Holy Scriptures, tending to His other Creations (Nature), working on solving
the great riddles of the Universe, working to solve the great riddles of our planet & the lifeforms here, etc. I can easily imagine entire
states/provinces dedicated to colonizing other bodies in space, or dedicated to figuring out how to extend the human lifespan, etc. But things like
that won't happen as long as entire countries have to focus their populations towards menial labor just to survive.
People always complain about how bad schools are and how they're brainwashing kids, etc. Yet those same people then complain if we find a way to allow
parents to have more free time to actually spend parenting their kids. People complain about how this or that religion is being forgotten or driven
out of our daily lives, yet they conveniently overlook the fact that people don't have time to study Scriptures if they're working 8-12 hour shifts
then taking hour long commutes.
I think that a society that automates our necessities and produces everything a society needs would free people up to use their time however they
choose, including spending it with their families, learning more Scriptures, traveling the world, volunteering with projects to advance humankind, or
whatever else. But you don't seem capable of seeing that as a possibility, instead drifting to the played out "you just want a handout, hmph" talking
points that completely ignore everything this thread could possibly represent.
Now... with all of that being said, I'd still need to see how the Communist AI implemented its vision before deciding to oppose it or go along with it
lol. There are simply too many possible ways to implement this for me to credibly make a conclusion one way or another without seeing a sample first.