"Boeing: We are going to beat SpaceX to Mars"

It was about a year ago that Boeing Chief Executive Dennis Muilenburg first began saying his company would beat SpaceX to Mars. "I'm convinced that the first person to step foot on Mars will arrive there riding on a Boeing rocket," he said during a Boeing-sponsored tech summit in Chicago in October 2016.

I like the hype that Boeing is throwing out there, but I don't believe they will beat SpaceX to mars. The funding they have has been slashed numerous times and all but come to a stand still. If and this is a big if, but if the Falcon Heavy has a successful launch then I believe Boeing is almost out of the picture for now. Maybe if they start putting some of there vast wealth into making this a reality then yes I believe they achieve that goal. I do not believe it is a efficient and cost saving goal on the platform they want to use. I say go SpaceX for the win. But Boeing I challenge you to put your money where your mouth is

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a reply to: Allaroundyou

Even better, Elon Musk just dared them to Do It. A mini space race to Mars could be just what the Space program needs.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

The bigger question is what rocket will take them home.

Oh, should be interesting.

I like things like these, challenges to other companies only spear head more innovation for American minds.

Good thread, S+F

originally posted by: Thorneblood
a reply to: Allaroundyou

Even better, Elon Musk just dared them to Do It. A mini space race to Mars could be just what the Space program needs.

Why not cooperate with each other?
Why does everything in this modern society has to be about competition?

I believe there are enough valid reasons we should explore space.

originally posted by: intergalactic fire

originally posted by: Thorneblood
a reply to: Allaroundyou

Even better, Elon Musk just dared them to Do It. A mini space race to Mars could be just what the Space program needs.

Why not cooperate with each other?
Why does everything in this modern society has to be about competition?

Modern society? Seems be going the opposite direction towards socialism or other. And competition is because bureaucracy and monopolies. Diversity in the marketplace encourages innovation for this reason. You don't want the government determining all this, unless of course you rely on tax money. But crime can exist in the marketplace, so government will always have a place in enforcing the law and restricting monopolies. It just has to be watched carefully by the citizens, like all power has to be.

But by all means cooperate just refrain from forcing others to.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

You guys go on having your fun playing the game that everything is conventional jets and rockets. But until someone can show me that massive, multiple capability triangles that move through the air without props, wings or thrust are non-existent, only then will I believe the hype of the big boys. But you can't do that. The big boys have already won the game.
I'm an eye-witness to such craft.

The little boy players with their mere billions should be careful. Any day the real equipment for space travel could be released and put their share prices to near zero. --You didn't see the government spending billions on a new shuttle did you? Every wonder why?

a reply to: intergalactic fire

Because it would mean giving them proprietary technology.

a reply to: Aliensun

So you're saying the government is not going to be involved in a new way to bring manned space missions about?

I am not convinced Boeing will be able to beat SpaceX to Mars.

In my opinion the best way to get humans to Mars and the rest of solar system quickly is by pooling resources from many organizations in a joint exploration and resource exploitation mission set.

a reply to: jonnywhite

Screw modern society, competition, bureaucracy, monopolies, diversity in the marketplace and the government.

originally posted by: intergalactic fire
I believe there are enough valid reasons we should explore space.

I guess it's fun for our robots to send us back pictures of far-away planets and stars, but I'm not sure what the point is of sending people to Mars.

a reply to: Blue Shift

I agree. A full fledged space faring civilization hinges on this. A real economic motive to exploit space.

Otherwise we have what we got now.

Let me tell you. Soon as we start craving for more living space not available on Earth, or energy reserves on the moon or other planets or asteroids, or similar tangible benefits, we'll be off this rock almost immediately as technology allows. We certainly won't be sitting debating whether it's worth doing, we'll be making it happen because we know it's.

I think we're in transition to becoming space faring. We need more tangible motives and the technology to enable it.

I think it will happen, assuming space is real--which I think it's.

That's what we need a real space race since our governments only want to spend money on Police and Military spending.

At this point only private industry can save us.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Allaroundyou

The bigger question is what rocket will take them home.

One way ticket...

a reply to: Blue Shift The technology that have to be created to sustain life in a enclosed environment on Mars would be very helpful to us here on earth. And if we can prove to ourselves that it can be done even if just on a small scale. Then I believe that would give more ambition to help this planet and further explore other planets. But that is just my belief.

a reply to: Arnie123 While we never agree on anything it is nice that I know where we can relate. Thank you for the S&F sir. God speed

space race!!!

a reply to: Thorneblood I really enjoyed that part of the article. Short, simple and to the point. Musk thrives off of competition and Boeing hates competition. A very nice combination. Space race here we come.....again

a reply to: Spacespider

That was my point