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POLITICS: Iran Snubs European Efforts To Resolve Nuke Issue

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posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 12:59 PM
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Iran says it will not give up its construction of a heavy water nuclear reactor. European offers for assisstance with a light water reactor are welcomed, however Iran says that they have come far in their heavy water reactor and will not abandon it. The concern over the heavy water reactor stems from the fact that they present an easier way to produce enriched Uranium. Iran is currently recieving technical assisstance from the EU in exchange for its temporary halt on Uranium enrichment. Iran says that a permanent abandonment of its nuclear ambitions however would collapse the government.
 



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TEHRAN, Iran - Iran rejected a European demand to stop building a heavy water nuclear reactor in return for a light-water reactor Sunday, hardening Iran's position on a key part of its nuclear facilities that critics claim is part of a weapons program.

The plants in question can be used to enrich uranium, a critical part in nuclear programs. Uranium enriched to low grades is used for fuel in nuclear reactors, but further enrichment makes it suitable for atomic bombs.

A nuclear accord the Europeans signed with Iran last year halted Iran's uranium enrichment program at least temporarily but left Iran free to produce plutonium, which also can be used to build nuclear weapons.


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Iran is playing this game straight from Kim Jong Il's playbook, and the Europeans didn't learn anything from North Korea's back-stabbing of Clinton's well-meaning efforts there. They are getting technical assisstance for a temporary halt while still producing Plutonium and are planning to resume enrichment of Uranium later. Why would the EU waste money on efforts to stop something the Iranians clearly say they will never stop? In terms of what's best for America (not necessarily what's right) it would be a good idea to have Israel hit those heavy water reactors ASAP, then somebody can front Israel the money for "reparations" to pay for light water reactors instead.




posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by The Vagabond
In terms of what's best for America (not necessarily what's right) it would be a good idea to have Israel hit those heavy water reactors ASAP, then somebody can front Israel the money for "reparations" to pay for light water reactors instead.




[sigh] Vagabond, I am certain you can find a solution other than violence if you put your mind to it.

Excellent coverage BTW. This is clearly an economic issue of major importance to Iraq, not simply a military one. Sounds like they have a lot invested - in infrastructure etc - and are afraid of the economic repercussions if they drop it. ....Can't help thinking there might be another way besides the celebrated nuke'em-solution...



posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by The Vagabond
... and the Europeans didn't learn anything from North Korea's back-stabbing of Clinton's well-meaning efforts there.


Ummm... the back-stabbing was the other way around!

Read this thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and it's linked sources.

I think the US has an interest in Iran and North Korea pursuing nuclear programs. They need an enemy to point fingers at and justify their "defence" budget. You sure don't get somebody to give up "the ultimate deterrent" by labelling them the "axis of evil" and threatening them.
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posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by soficrow
[sigh] Vagabond, I am certain you can find a solution other than violence if you put your mind to it.


Don't get me wrong. I made it clear that I'm not talking about what should be done. I'm talking about what I fully expect this US administration to do. I don't give a flying act of fornication about Iran- I'd be happy to leave them be.
I believe America should be developing regional economies on a mutually beneficial basis to provide greater access to resources. America has to work the international supply side of economics to counter China's control over demand which has been driving up concrete prices and other resource prices. Mutually beneficial relationships with nations that are currently untapped is the best way to accomplish this. Additionally, such relationships would create new industrialized nations which still have relatively favorable exchange rates with the US, which gives us some alternative to Chinese goods.

I have outlined an idea of what I think America should be doing instead of these resource wars in one of my examples in the thread I'm linking to.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by Gools
Ummm... the back-stabbing was the other way around!

Read this thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...
and it's linked sources.

I think the US has an interest in Iran and North Korea pursuing nuclear programs.


Very interesting! Thanks.
Convenient that Clinton happened to help advance this agenda isn't it, but then maybe not- afterall liberals are as deep into the CFR as conservatives, and the CFR rates just below the PNAC on my NWO suspicion chart.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. We've got a Nationalist party (republicans) and a Socialist party (democrats). They're working together to create a National Socialist country. For those who don't remember (I'm sure Gools knows, but we have more casual readers) National Socialism is another name for Nazism.



posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by The Vagabond
...afterall liberals are as deep into the CFR as conservatives, and the CFR rates just below the PNAC on my NWO suspicion chart.


Exactly. The Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, The Bildelburgs (sp?), etc. they have members from both parties.

And don't forget that both US presidential candidates in Nov-04 are members of Skull and Bones.

America and other "western" nations have ONE political party controlled by the corporations. We live in a plutocracy. Remember how Mussolini defined fascism?

We get to chose between cola-red and cola-blue. Slightly different taste but still a cola.
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posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Gools
America and other "western" nations have ONE political party controlled by the corporations. We live in a plutocracy. Remember how Mussolini defined fascism?


I thought I was the only one who ever harped on that
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Mussolini argued that Fascism was better termed Corporatism because it was a merging of national and business authority and interests.

I like to mess with Republicans by baiting questions till they acknowledge that "corporatism" would describe certain practices allowed by this administration, especially via Dick Cheney, then I spring the Mussolini quote on them.



posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 03:10 PM
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Europe: Please Please Please don't build any nukes . Please Please Pretty Please don't build nukes.

America: Don't do you been warned.

year or two from now
Europe: they promiced us they wouldnt build them and we even showed everybody how sure we were that we gave them what they needed to build one. How were we suppose to stop them anyway they said they built one that would only kill jews and who are we to question how our techology is used.

America: It's ok Europe we will clean another one of the messes you left in a former colony.



posted on Feb, 13 2005 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by soficrow
[sigh] Vagabond, I am certain you can find a solution other than violence if you put your mind to it.



I think maybe you should telling Iran and North Korea that.



[edit on 13-2-2005 by TrueLies]




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