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Video shows police killing of Daniel Shaver in Mesa, Arizona (viewer discretion advised)

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posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: JimNasium
The thought is that if they're crawling towards You on hands/feet, they cannot hold a weapon because their hands would be on the ground.


Except he had the wife just on her knees and the husband on all fours, not exactly consistent commands and as Shamrock pointed out he was terminated for his handling of the situation.




posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: face23785
They shot him because in training they see stuff like this:



The lesson here is when you have a gun pointed at you you need to follow instructions. They could've legally shot him the first time he put his hands behind his back. They actually put their own lives in danger there.


What a load of shiite..and you want to excuse it. The article...I refuse to call him a cop, had made the young feller so terrified he didn't know what was wrong or what was fecking right, screaming order after order...bastard.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: notsure1

Totally wrong on the LEO. He gave the victim orders that were hard to follow. Guy had a few drinks as well. The POS was looking to shoot that person. He could have approached when the guy was on the ground with arms spread. This is just plain military action. The guy in the hall (and you probably) are the enemy to the police. Protect and serve does not exist.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JimNasium
The thought is that if they're crawling towards You on hands/feet, they cannot hold a weapon because their hands would be on the ground.


Except he had the wife just on her knees and the husband on all fours, not exactly consistent commands and as Shamrock pointed out he was terminated for his handling of the situation.


It almost sounds like there were contradictory commands. One guy yelling "in the air," and another "behind your back," at the same time, which confused Shaver further.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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The officer also asked him if he was drunk and he said no. If the kid had been honest perhaps the officer would've taken that into account that he may not be able to follow instructions very well.

Be honest, obey commands. Don't get yourself killed.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JimNasium
The thought is that if they're crawling towards You on hands/feet, they cannot hold a weapon because their hands would be on the ground.


Except he had the wife just on her knees and the husband on all fours, not exactly consistent commands and as Shamrock pointed out he was terminated for his handling of the situation.


If he is found not guilty why fire him? Not guilty is not guilty right? Can he now just go to another department and get a job as a cop.

Guess I should be asking Shamrock lol.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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Imo, that PIG should be made to crawl on the fifty yard line at half time and then shot for no reason, just like he did his victim.

No empathy for this brutal abuse of authority, a shame to all professional police officers.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: calwoodbutcher
a reply to: notsure1

The POS was looking to shoot that person.


When you make # up it's hard to look at these scenarios objectively.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1
Mesa Police have released the body cam footage of the shooting of Daniel Shaver and it looks like a damm execution to me.

Shaver was pest control tech ,staying at a hotel having a few drinks with with some friends when one friend sees his locked case and asks him whats in it. So Shaver opens the case and shows him his pellet gun which had a scope .

Apparently some one saw him showing the PELLET gun to his friend and called the cops . The cops show up ,confront him in the hall and bark order after order which he complies to every one. The idiot cop then says crawl to me and as he tries to crawl to the cop he is shot 5 times.

Shaver was of course unarmed and his PELLET gun was back safely locked up in its case.

Of course the cop was not guilty and this video was never allowed in to evidence.

This is why people are kneeling for the anthem , because there is no accountability. This is murder .

I have boycotted the NFL have not watched it in weeks , I Will watch it next week because boy do they have a point.

I wont kneel but dammit the message needs to be heard. This guy was as innocent as it gets and this cop should at the very least be fired but he is going to back on duty killing more people.

And how can this video not be shown to the jurors?

RIP






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Since I cant post the gofundme link I will just post an excerpt from his wife.


He was my best friend. The love of my life. A son. A brother. Many people's friend. The glue that held me together. He was madly in love with his two daughters. He worked hard and sacrificed so he could provide for us. Our oldest, Natalie (6), is a true daddy's girl and they had a very special bond. Emery (4) misses her daddy and is crying for him during the night asking me, "Why can't people come back alive?" My girls want their daddy home. I want their tears to stop and for their sweet little delicate hearts to have never experienced this traumatizing and completely unfair loss.

We were planning to move to AZ this summer and I had stopped taking on clients to prepare for our move. I'm also currently 8 months pregnant as a surrogate for my friends. I am raising money for general life expenses in the face of losing all our income as well as to cover traveling expenses to AZ as we enter this court battle to fight for justice. Your support is sincerely appreciated. We have a long battle ahead but I will not stop until my husband Daniel recieves justice.

Follow our fight:


Mod Note: GoFund Me link removed. Solicitations are NOT allowed on ATS as per the ATS Terms and Conditions.



Wow....How was this video not allowed? It IS the EVIDENCE of the case. Justice was not served. He was killed when there were tons of other ways this could have been handled. The man barking the orders was getting amped up and looked like he wanted to use his rifle. I'm surprised he didn't shoot him when the guy on the ground accidentally put his hands behind him. You could tell he was scared out of his wits.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JimNasium
The thought is that if they're crawling towards You on hands/feet, they cannot hold a weapon because their hands would be on the ground.


Except he had the wife just on her knees and the husband on all fours, not exactly consistent commands and as Shamrock pointed out he was terminated for his handling of the situation.


If he is found not guilty why fire him? Not guilty is not guilty right? Can he now just go to another department and get a job as a cop.

Guess I should be asking Shamrock lol.


You don't have to commit a crime to be fired. He wasn't fired because of the shooting itself.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: notsure1
If he is found not guilty why fire him? Not guilty is not guilty right? Can he now just go to another department and get a job as a cop.

Guess I should be asking Shamrock lol.


I think the point of the Original Post was that he was found not guilty and the implication was because this video was not permitted to be used as evidence, correct?

If the jury saw this it may have in fact resulted in a guilty verdict. The department obviously had the video and their dismissal most likely revolved around his tactics.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:40 AM
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originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: notsure1
Mesa Police have released the body cam footage of the shooting of Daniel Shaver and it looks like a damm execution to me.

Shaver was pest control tech ,staying at a hotel having a few drinks with with some friends when one friend sees his locked case and asks him whats in it. So Shaver opens the case and shows him his pellet gun which had a scope .

Apparently some one saw him showing the PELLET gun to his friend and called the cops . The cops show up ,confront him in the hall and bark order after order which he complies to every one. The idiot cop then says crawl to me and as he tries to crawl to the cop he is shot 5 times.

Shaver was of course unarmed and his PELLET gun was back safely locked up in its case.

Of course the cop was not guilty and this video was never allowed in to evidence.

This is why people are kneeling for the anthem , because there is no accountability. This is murder .

I have boycotted the NFL have not watched it in weeks , I Will watch it next week because boy do they have a point.

I wont kneel but dammit the message needs to be heard. This guy was as innocent as it gets and this cop should at the very least be fired but he is going to back on duty killing more people.

And how can this video not be shown to the jurors?

RIP






Here is is wifes GOfund me page if you can stomach it.

[SNIP]

 


Since I cant post the gofundme link I will just post an excerpt from his wife.


He was my best friend. The love of my life. A son. A brother. Many people's friend. The glue that held me together. He was madly in love with his two daughters. He worked hard and sacrificed so he could provide for us. Our oldest, Natalie (6), is a true daddy's girl and they had a very special bond. Emery (4) misses her daddy and is crying for him during the night asking me, "Why can't people come back alive?" My girls want their daddy home. I want their tears to stop and for their sweet little delicate hearts to have never experienced this traumatizing and completely unfair loss.

We were planning to move to AZ this summer and I had stopped taking on clients to prepare for our move. I'm also currently 8 months pregnant as a surrogate for my friends. I am raising money for general life expenses in the face of losing all our income as well as to cover traveling expenses to AZ as we enter this court battle to fight for justice. Your support is sincerely appreciated. We have a long battle ahead but I will not stop until my husband Daniel recieves justice.

Follow our fight:


Mod Note: GoFund Me link removed. Solicitations are NOT allowed on ATS as per the ATS Terms and Conditions.



Wow....How was this video not allowed? It IS the EVIDENCE of the case. Justice was not served. He was killed when there were tons of other ways this could have been handled. The man barking the orders was getting amped up and looked like he wanted to use his rifle. I'm surprised he didn't shoot him when the guy on the ground accidentally put his hands behind him. You could tell he was scared out of his wits.


You actually just contradicted yourself. You want to believe he was itching to shoot somebody, but then you observe that he restrained himself the first time AND the second time the guy put his hands in a threatening place. He only shot him the 3rd time he did it. Doesn't sound like a guy looking for an excuse to shoot somebody. He could've shot him the first time.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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The US police seemed to have become a military force and have lost the serve and protect element of there jobs. I thought US law was innocent until proven guilty? The "police" officer treated them as guilty from the off, had no respect and didn't care that people can and do make mistakes when nervous or stressed.
The officer had him covered and could see he had nothing in his hands, when he put his hand towards his back the officer should have warned him that he was about to be shot and that any other movement could be seen as dangerous to the officer. He should have never opened fire. There where two of them against an unarmed man on his knees. Both should loose there jobs and the officer who fired should be in prison.
edit on 8-12-2017 by Kurokage because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JimNasium
The thought is that if they're crawling towards You on hands/feet, they cannot hold a weapon because their hands would be on the ground.


Except he had the wife just on her knees and the husband on all fours, not exactly consistent commands and as Shamrock pointed out he was terminated for his handling of the situation.


If he is found not guilty why fire him? Not guilty is not guilty right? Can he now just go to another department and get a job as a cop.

Guess I should be asking Shamrock lol.


You don't have to commit a crime to be fired. He wasn't fired because of the shooting itself.


I just dont want him to be able to be a cop again. Who the hell wants this guy "protecting us"?



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: face23785
He wasn't fired because of the shooting itself.


And you know this how? Do you have a link to the departmental action?



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:43 AM
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This was a murder.

I hope this cop gets a fair trial, and then he his punished to the maximum extent if found guilty.
edit on 8-12-2017 by Grambler because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: notsure1


And how can this video not be shown to the jurors?


I was shown to the jury.

It just was released publicly.


A prosecutor on Thursday showed a jury video of a Mesa police officer fatally shooting an unarmed man who was on his knees after he sobbed and begged not to be shot.

The police body camera video was introduced during opening statements in the trial of former Mesa Officer Philip "Mitch" Brailsford, 26, who is charged with second-degree murder in the killing of Daniel Shaver, 26. It is the first time the footage has been seen publicly since the 2016 shooting.
Jury sees body-cam video of Mesa officer shooting unarmed man
edit on 8-12-2017 by Liquesence because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: JimNasium
The thought is that if they're crawling towards You on hands/feet, they cannot hold a weapon because their hands would be on the ground.


Except he had the wife just on her knees and the husband on all fours, not exactly consistent commands and as Shamrock pointed out he was terminated for his handling of the situation.


If he is found not guilty why fire him? Not guilty is not guilty right? Can he now just go to another department and get a job as a cop.

Guess I should be asking Shamrock lol.


You don't have to commit a crime to be fired. He wasn't fired because of the shooting itself.



After a comprehensive review of the January incident resulting in the second-degree murder charge and the internal affairs complaint against Officer Brailsford, Chief Meza has decided to terminate Brailsford’s employment with the Mesa Police Department. The termination notice was completed today and is effective immediately. By policy, Brailsford has 15 days to appeal the termination."


Yea, he was.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
This was a murder.

I hope this cop gets a fair trial, and then fries.


He was tried and found not guilty.
edit on 8-12-2017 by Liquesence because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: notsure1
If he is found not guilty why fire him? Not guilty is not guilty right? Can he now just go to another department and get a job as a cop.

Guess I should be asking Shamrock lol.


I think the point of the Original Post was that he was found not guilty and the implication was because this video was not permitted to be used as evidence, correct?

If the jury saw this it may have in fact resulted in a guilty verdict. The department obviously had the video and their dismissal most likely revolved around his tactics.


The jury did see it.



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