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Al Franken announces resignation

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posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: WeRpeons
So the guy didn't take responsibility for his actions. At least he resigned his position due to his accusations and pressure from his own party. You conservatives are such hypocrites. Where is your party's pressure to have Ray Moore and Donald Trump to resign their positions?


Actually I don't think he should resign. For Ray Moore I'll let his state voters decide that and also can you explain to me what exactly is inappropriate behavior? It seems that is the term to describe events with those who do not meet the sexual harassment mold but we want to punish them anyway we can.



In my entire life, I have never seen so much ignorance, divisiveness and blatant bias from voters and their party representatives. If we continue to ignore and make excuses for the wrongs of our elected officials, our country will not only lose its moral high ground but also the rule of law and our basic constitutional values.

It's a sad day in America, when we can't identify basic rights from wrongs.


There are differences. When you are in a position of power over someone and you abuse that power for sexual advances that is much more worst situation compared to "he tried to kiss me", or "he touch my waist" etc..."He asked me out", "he looked at me sexually", "he told a joke", "he tried to touch my junk back in 1981" etc etc...all of these can be sexual harassment in the right environment and then they all can just be normal sexual interaction of what people do. When you are in a position of power and you use that on people who are in direct influenced of that power, such as what Weinstein or Clinton did, that is what gets people quickly fired, removed etc.

So what is the moral high ground? Do we go after bus drivers from before 1965 because they told black people to go to the back, as example... What was deem socially acceptable 10 20 30 40+ years ago is well different than today. That goes both ways too, many thing acceptable today was not back then....

Seems we are using a very wide paint brush to undo 50+ plus years of what we TODAY see as unacceptable to the point we can ruin someone because "they tried to kiss me 20 years ago". There are so many heinous cases as to where we really need to put our energy into, such as pedophile ring, human trafficking etc...that are very plentiful but we hear hardly nothing on main news channels, but get a full month of Al Franken's party fouls to finally see him go...


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posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: Willtell




It’s coming out now how Pence tried to waylay him


I think if he tried then Trump would have to remind him of the dirt he may have on him.

There is a reason Trump picked Pence.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 05:58 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

President Trump does Not Need the Minorities you Mention here . The Majority of NORMAL American People Support Him , that is All he Needs to Succeed in Making America Great Again .



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Al , this is How That is Done , you Had it All Wrong..........





posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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The topic:

Al Franken announces resignation



Please discuss it and not a lot of other people and issues.


You are responsible for your own posts.....those who ignore that responsibility will face mod actions.


and, as always:

Do NOT reply to this post!!



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: gernblan
that's right defend the Democrat that actually did something while you decry someone who merely was recorded joking about it in private on a bus.

You guys crack me up


I'm not sure who "you guys" are, but it sure is not me. I think much of what is coming out should go into the #WhoGiveACrap file bin, but then there are events that concern me too such as Whinestien and maybe Moore.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: pavil

Your right. It was only 8 times...... that we know of.

That's the great thing about people who do this, they are habitual about it.


I'm much worst...During the years I was single I think I tried to kiss a girl and then some every week... Must have been habitual...What if old Al tried 1000 times and was successful 992 with 8 saying they didn't want to....



How about we demand better behavior out of elected officials?


He was a comedian not an elected official, or are you saying we need to evaluate 50 years of a person's life to see if they ever tried to kiss someone and that person didn't want to?



Where's the modern day Mayflower madam when you need her? They'd make a killing...in Bitcoin of course.


But but what about 10 20 30 40+ years ago? Poor Sulu is accused of trying to touch some guy's junk in 1981...



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 06:33 PM
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Trent Franks To Resign From Congress
www.huffingtonpost.com...

BTW there is some other GOP guy, ironically named Franks, ready to resign.


Not a good day for woman to name their new babies Frank

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posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

But but what about 10 20 30 40+ years ago? Poor Sulu is accused of trying to touch some guy's junk in 1981...


The culture was just different 30/40 years ago.

I think this Franken thing is insane.

And, yeah, I am a woman that lived during those times.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Being decent to black folks was still the right thing to do before the civil rights movement. That's what I see this like. It was still wrong decades ago, people just didn't have the power to make it an issue.

If we excuse the behavior, the culture will never change.

Maybe what we need in Washington (and everywhere else) are people who weren't abusers back when it was cool to be one.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

Maybe what we need in Washington (and everywhere else) are people who weren't abusers back when it was cool to be one.


But it seems the goal line for what is considered an abuser keeps moving to make a bigger and bigger net.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:30 PM
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For Ray Moore I'll let his state voters decide that and also can you explain to me what exactly is inappropriate behavior?


"Let the voters decide"...that statement is such BS and Trump and the conservatives who are repeating it know darn well it's deflecting the main issue of Roy Moore being involved in the worst kind of sex crime, pedophilia! The far-right Evangelicals of Alabama would rather sell their souls for the sake of the republican party. Their strong christian values sure don't take precedence when it comes to a "likable good ole boy" like Roy Moore. Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy were also considered charming and likable guys, it turned out they were both serial killers! Moore's offense is by far the worst of all the current political sexual allegations!

As an adult, you should know exactly what inappropriate behavior is. Using your authority to harass and pressure women for sexual favors, forcing yourself on women when they clearly don't accept your advances, greeting women by kissing them on the lips, groping them even in fun or jest, inappropriate touching especially when it comes to children. I'm a retired teacher, and I would never put my self in a circumstance where I was in a closed room with a female student. There's a saying that most teachers abide by... "touchy teachers don't teach." If I had to reprimand a student, male or female, I would always escort them into the hallway. Professionals should all have certain ethic guidelines to follow for their own protection and for their employees.

Everyday I have to hear responses from our political representatives who avoid to answer direct questions. They twist and deflect from giving direct and honest answers. They've all been caught contradicting their statements. The two leaders of both parties should both be forced out of office for going back on their word. Public servants have the responsibility to be honest, credible and be accountable for their actions and statements. This is not a dictatorship, where legislation isn't negotiated and rammed down our throats, and government officials are protecting their colleagues improprieties.

We're no better than these self-serving politicians when voters continue to make excuses for their blatant lies, outrageous rhetoric and poor decisions. The American people deserve what they get, when they continue to defend the indefensible.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:39 PM
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he forced himself on another woman, and then later took pictures while she was asleep "groping" her

So this is fine, but other things are not?

Oh the irony, hypocrisy and idiocy


Dont you love how the extreme pc left, SJWs and femenazi warrior tactics have turned against their own! And I dont say that to just gloat, I say it with JUST CAUSE, STOP YOUR DOUBLE STANDARDS!



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:46 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

But but what about 10 20 30 40+ years ago? Poor Sulu is accused of trying to touch some guy's junk in 1981...


The culture was just different 30/40 years ago.

I think this Franken thing is insane.

And, yeah, I am a woman that lived during those times.


So then Moore is a non issue?



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:58 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Good riddance to that pervert.
Notice how he laughs and smirks
his way
out the door.

Franken is a creepy inside joke.
Always has been.

S&F



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

But but what about 10 20 30 40+ years ago? Poor Sulu is accused of trying to touch some guy's junk in 1981...


The culture was just different 30/40 years ago.

I think this Franken thing is insane.

And, yeah, I am a woman that lived during those times.


So then Moore is a non issue?


"Little Girls"



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Aazadan

Maybe what we need in Washington (and everywhere else) are people who weren't abusers back when it was cool to be one.


But it seems the goal line for what is considered an abuser keeps moving to make a bigger and bigger net.


You and I are totally in sync on this.

Those who can't see the difference between Franken and the others - - - don't want to.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 10:29 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xtrozero

But but what about 10 20 30 40+ years ago? Poor Sulu is accused of trying to touch some guy's junk in 1981...


The culture was just different 30/40 years ago.

I think this Franken thing is insane.

And, yeah, I am a woman that lived during those times.




"Little Girls"


So youre saying 14 yr old girls are ok? and other unwanted advacnes are "ok" because of the "times"

Ill remember that, because your post history says the opposite.

So then Moore is a non issue?
edit on 7-12-2017 by SailorJerry because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: WeRpeons

"Let the voters decide"...that statement is such BS and Trump and the conservatives who are repeating it know darn well it's deflecting the main issue of Roy Moore being involved in the worst kind of sex crime, pedophilia!


Well first it is not pedophilia, second there is no charge, third I don't even think these accusations are crimes. If true, we still need something, or does 30 to 40 year old accusations enough?



As an adult, you should know exactly what inappropriate behavior is.

Using your authority to harass and pressure women for sexual favors, forcing yourself on women when they clearly don't accept your advances, greeting women by kissing them on the lips, groping them even in fun or jest, inappropriate touching especially when it comes to children. I'm a retired teacher, and I would never put my self in a circumstance where I was in a closed room with a female student. There's a saying that most teachers abide by... "touchy teachers don't teach." If I had to reprimand a student, male or female, I would always escort them into the hallway. Professionals should all have certain ethic guidelines to follow for their own protection and for their employees.


This wording is being used in lieu of sexual harassment since these accusations are not crimes as most of your examples above are.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry

So youre saying 14 yr old girls are ok? and other unwanted advacnes are "ok" because of the "times"

Ill remember that, because your post history says the opposite.

So then Moore is a non issue?


So what do you want to do with Moore? What crime are we going to go to trial on? Were any of his advances unwanted? They say that now but it seems they went on more than one date with him by their own words... and that is all we got...nothing for 3+ decades and now the attacks...Seems there is no innocent until proven guilty anymore.



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