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GOP lawmakers cite new allegations of political bias in FBI

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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
UPDATE: The FBI is Guilty of Obstruction of Justice.

www.frontpagemag.com...


This makes me want to do very bad things





posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 10:57 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
Well do far the claims are from anonymous whistle blowers, so it's not proof as of yet.

But if true, a pattern is starting to emerge of the investigator using language to mislead the public about the seriousness of investigations.

Remember, comey admitted that at lynchs request he called the investigation a matter to help Hillary's image.

Now the fbi was misleading the public about their i,vestigation into benvhazi (if this is true)

The other disturbing pint in this article is the claim agents were supposed issuing inappropriate remarks about wanting to nail Flynn.

Again, of this is true, or fits right in with all of te other evidence that the fbi favored Hillary and wanted to get trumps people.

The politicization and weoponizing of the fbi is far more dangerous than any Russian influence could be.


You're correct. Of course i don't take everything as face value(nobody should) but i do see a pattern emerging that this can't be just all coincidence. To quote Dirk Gently: "It's all connected."



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 11:02 PM
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Wait, hold on here...

I thought Trump was suppose to be impeached after the Flynn story broke a few days ago? Just like when the Manafort story broke... and then the Podesta Group capsized.

Now the entire Russian collusion narrative is collapsing and the Mueller investigation is going off the rails. Funny how that works... isn't it?



I'm sure they'll get Drumpf next time!!!



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy



Well looks like all the dirty laundry of the FBI is getting aired for everyone to see.


Hmmmm.... I wonder why that is? Crazy how all of these leaks are coming out at such a steady rate isn't it? Almost as if they want us pouring over the data for weeks on end to distract us and divide us over things that will in the end change and accomplish absolutely nothing other than to get us arguing with each other over which side is worse.

We're just a bunch of armchair warriors around here. They know all we'll do with this info is get outraged then move on to the next info dump they hand to us on a silver platter. No one will go to jail and things will continue as they have been for years. Sad, but true.
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posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 12:11 AM
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We're just a bunch of armchair warriors around here. They know all we'll do with this info is get outraged then move on to the next info dump they hand to us on a silver platter. No one will go to jail and things will continue as they have been for years. Sad, but true.

Speak for yourself.


You sound like an apathetic defeatist.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 12:20 AM
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a reply to: eisegesis

Well, I wasn't exactly speaking for myself, more of a general statement.

What influence do we have on the investigation? None. So why do we keep searching for new info on it and arguing over it? Because they continue to release the info for us to argue over. Simple as that. They want us focused on the investigation, otherwise we wouldn't get new info every day, sometimes multiple times per day.

They're giving us our daily dose/fix of drama. The more drama the more negativity, the more negativity the worse things get. The more we see each other as the enemy the less heat that is put on them. It's all one big distraction, believe me.
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posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 04:51 AM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

This makes me laugh... For years people in the GOP have tried to excuse unequal application of the law, where persons of colour are compared to people considered "White" by society. Sentences for like crimes are not the same, probability of getting arrested given the precise same situation is lower for white persons than for persons of colour, jail is more likely in a given scenario for a person of colour, than a white person, even when the criminal behaviour is identical in every way. And the GOP have been supporting this...

I wonder if it has occurred to them, that the FBI are not biased, its just it seems that the GOP contains more criminally liable figures, than the Democrat party? I fail to see how they could shy away from that argument, since they have been using it against persons of colour for the last forty years, often while making money from the private prison complex to boot!



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy

Well looks like all the dirty laundry of the FBI is getting aired for everyone to see.


What dirty laundry? Please be specific.



It's unbelievable how the public was manipulated.

How?

"was" manipulated? No.
"is being" manipulated? Yes, by GOP Trump Loyalists. Your posts and others are strong evidence of that.


I guess McCabe is in hot water now.

For what exactly?


Trump needs to purge the whole FBI and get rid of all the Obama leftovers.


The false presumption is that the FBI is D or R. the FBI is non-political. Personal opinions are left at home.

The #2 Official in FBI's counter intelligence texted his girlfriend/mistress a personal message that included a comment that seemed to suggest a poor personal opinion of Trump. BAM...He gets demoted to sitting behind a desk and processing paperwork in Human Resources. He is immediately stripped of access to the Russia Investigation and an Inspector General begins an investigation into him.

THAT is how the FBI deals with even a remote hint of bias. Even if just a personal, off duty comment to your girlfriend.

Meanwhile the NSA Advisor McMasters says things like Trump has the intelligence of a Kindergartener and Sec of State Tillerson calls Trump an Effen Idiot.

An FBI agent makes a comment to his girlfriend and his career ends and an Inspector general investigation immediately opens.

The FBI has no issue with partisanship. But the GOP are working very hard to change that.

Like everything else, the GOP want to GO BACKWARDS to the dark days of J. Edgar Hoover.

But once you sell the public on that falsehood, it clears the way to fill the FBI with Trump Loyalists.

Understanding it appears what you are suggesting is making the FBI a partisan toole of the President Every single one needs to be investigated. The storm has arrived. Trump was right again. The FBI is in tatters. Link is Thehill.com. Don't blame me for the source.


Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-Fla.) said Wednesday he interviewed a recently retired FBI supervisor who told him he was instructed by Deputy Director Andrew McCabe not to call the 2012 Benghazi attack an act of terrorism when distributing a report on the FBI findings to the larger intelligence community.



The agent found the instruction concerning because his unit had gathered incontrovertible evidence showing a major al Qaeda figure had directed the attack and the information had already been briefed to President Obama, the lawmaker said.



“What operational reason would there be to issue an edict to agents telling them, in the face of virtually conclusive evidence to the contrary, not to categorize the Benghazi attack as a result of terrorism? By placing the interests of the Obama administration over the public’s interests, the order is yet another data point highlighting the politicization of the FBI,” DeSantis said.


administration/363666-gop-lawmakers -cite-new-allegations-of-political-bias-in-fbi



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posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

Thats the problem, you're under the assumption the FBI is a non partisan institution. 'fraid it isn't so.

In case you forgot, a member has been outed as Anti-Trump, so much for the partisan no mans land.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:41 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

This is simple.
It is a populist tactic as old as time.
It is a version of discrediting factual reporting and facts. Claim you are the sole arbiter of truth. Then lie your ass off.

1) Work to discredit the FBI and scream that the FBI is bias, partisan and corrupt when it is not.
2) Demand that it be rid of "Obama Loyalists" that you claim it is full of.
3) Replace leadership at the FBI with partisans loyal to Trump and GOP agenda.

That is how you make a non-partisan challenge to your potential corruption a partisan tool of your agenda.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
a reply to: soberbacchus

Thats the problem, you're under the assumption the FBI is a non partisan institution. 'fraid it isn't so.



I don't doubt you have easily succumbed to the propaganda that the FBI is partisan and corrupt.

After all, Trump told you so.

Objective facts do not support the propaganda.



In case you forgot, a member has been outed as Anti-Trump, so much for the partisan no mans land.


That is the most ridiculous thing I heard in a very long time.
Over half the population of the United States is "Anti Trump".
They are capable of going about their day jobs just fine.


www.realclearpolitics.com...


Of course the natural solution for that idiotic logic proposed by Trump Loyalists is to replace everyone at the FBI with "Pro-Trump" loyalists.

Thinking Trump is an effen idiot or has the intelligence of a kindergartener are sentiments his Chief NSA McMasters and Sec of State Tillerson have expressed.

Do we need to abolish Trumps cabinet?




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posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:53 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust
UPDATE: The FBI is Guilty of Obstruction of Justice.

www.frontpagemag.com...


UPDATE: Your Sources are unsurprisingly trash.



FrontPage Magazine (also known as FrontPageMag.com) is an online right-wing political website, edited by David Horowitz and published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

The website has been described by opinion pieces as right-wing,[8][9][10] far-right,[11][12] Islamophobic,[13] and anti-Islam

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy


You are absolutely correct, but really, this is old news. Since the days of J Edgar Hoover it has been perfectly clear that the FBI is extremely political. The historical record is very clear on that.

The Nation magazine has been writing about it since 1931, and there is a book available called Surveillance Nation, a collection of essays from 1931 edited by Richard Kreitner that documents all that.
edit on 7-12-2017 by Salander because: Surveillance Nation



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: carewemust
UPDATE: The FBI is Guilty of Obstruction of Justice.

www.frontpagemag.com...


UPDATE: Your Sources are unsurprisingly trash.



FrontPage Magazine (also known as FrontPageMag.com) is an online right-wing political website, edited by David Horowitz and published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

The website has been described by opinion pieces as right-wing,[8][9][10] far-right,[11][12] Islamophobic,[13] and anti-Islam

en.wikipedia.org...


So, because a site is right-wing it is trash?



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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originally posted by: Konduit

Now the entire Russian collusion narrative is collapsing and the Mueller investigation is going off the rails. Funny how that works... isn't it?



You little green lizards keep chirping that and Mueller keeps indicting folks and flipping cooperating witnesses.
Funny how that works... isn't it.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: carewemust
UPDATE: The FBI is Guilty of Obstruction of Justice.

www.frontpagemag.com...


UPDATE: Your Sources are unsurprisingly trash.



FrontPage Magazine (also known as FrontPageMag.com) is an online right-wing political website, edited by David Horowitz and published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

The website has been described by opinion pieces as right-wing,[8][9][10] far-right,[11][12] Islamophobic,[13] and anti-Islam

en.wikipedia.org...


So, because a site is right-wing it is trash?


Not Just right wing, but listed as a hate site by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The source is undeterred by facts or truth and their articles are regularly debunked.

It is trash.



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: carewemust
UPDATE: The FBI is Guilty of Obstruction of Justice.

www.frontpagemag.com...


UPDATE: Your Sources are unsurprisingly trash.



FrontPage Magazine (also known as FrontPageMag.com) is an online right-wing political website, edited by David Horowitz and published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

The website has been described by opinion pieces as right-wing,[8][9][10] far-right,[11][12] Islamophobic,[13] and anti-Islam

en.wikipedia.org...


Oh well...then it's totally disqualified. Aren't you the same guy/gal who said during the campaign that "Judicial Watch" was not credible?



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Tempter

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: carewemust
UPDATE: The FBI is Guilty of Obstruction of Justice.

www.frontpagemag.com...


UPDATE: Your Sources are unsurprisingly trash.



FrontPage Magazine (also known as FrontPageMag.com) is an online right-wing political website, edited by David Horowitz and published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

The website has been described by opinion pieces as right-wing,[8][9][10] far-right,[11][12] Islamophobic,[13] and anti-Islam

en.wikipedia.org...


So, because a site is right-wing it is trash?


Not Just right wing, but listed as a hate site by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
The source is undeterred by facts or truth and their articles are regularly debunked.

It is trash.


Oh the southern Poverty law center!!!!

Hahahahahaha!!!!

Yep, your crazy left wing biased source thinks that a right wing source is bad.

Who would haave thought?



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: carewemust
UPDATE: The FBI is Guilty of Obstruction of Justice.

www.frontpagemag.com...


UPDATE: Your Sources are unsurprisingly trash.



FrontPage Magazine (also known as FrontPageMag.com) is an online right-wing political website, edited by David Horowitz and published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

The website has been described by opinion pieces as right-wing,[8][9][10] far-right,[11][12] Islamophobic,[13] and anti-Islam

en.wikipedia.org...


Oh well...then it's totally disqualified. Aren't you the same guy/gal who said during the campaign that "Judicial Watch" was not credible?


Speaking of credible. Please go ahead and cite that post?

Or is that more BS heaped upon BS?



posted on Dec, 7 2017 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Please explain to me how the SPLC is biased?
Maybe cite an example?



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