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Breaking News: SU-57 New Engine Success

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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 12:47 AM
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I wanted to scream like a school girl......Because this news is basically like giving Gurenburg the middle finger for claiming that the SU-57s wont be out until 2027 according to his expert opinion all over the western news websites. Here check this out www.vesti.ru...# uacrussia.ru... and just video player.vgtrk.com... showZoomBtn=true Just use google translate and here are the quotes that gave me a hard on the most.


"In Zhukovsky, the first Russian fighter of the fifth generation of the Su-57, the same T-50, with the engine of the second stage, was tested. At the helm was the Hero of Russia, the chief pilot of the Sukhoi Design Bureau Sergey Bogdan. The flight passed normally. It lasted 17 minutes.

As the Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov said, this is a big leap for the Russian aircraft industry, whose specialists have shown that they are capable of creating highly intelligent advanced systems. The new aircraft has a unique glider, an innovative digital filling and the latest engines. Characteristics of the Su-57 are kept secret, the Rossiya 24 television channel reported, which showed exclusive footage of the new aircraft."

So Gorenburg analyzes that the 1st batch of SU-57s will be out in 2027?

"A successful flight with a new engine gives an additional impetus to the program of a fifth-generation fighter," said the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov.

"In 2018, the Russian Defense Ministry plans to sign a contract for the supply of the first batch of fifth-generation fighter aircraft Su-57. They will be put into service in 2019, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov promised."




God I cant sleep from the hype. Wish this online forum was transformed into celebration party because drinks would be all on me LOL.
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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 12:55 AM
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I think there's going to be more involved than a single 17 minute flight test before they order and field a batch, but it's good news for them. The numbers and the batch dates have continually slipped which is generally not a good sign of project health.

Here's the Tass article in English, so you don't need to mess with translation: Tass



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 01:14 AM
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Give it a week itll catch on fire or something



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 01:35 AM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

Yeah you seem to be right since incidents like that have happen on the su-57 and f-35.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 02:42 AM
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I'm still hopeful it will get a single piece canopy ala Raptor one of these days.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 04:34 AM
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Reliability is the issue.....Good powerful engines Soviet designs....when they work.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 05:01 AM
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I thought it was unrealistic that the PAKFA would fly the first time 2010 yet only be produced in meaningful numbers around 2027 due to not having a good enough engine. That's 17 years or a similar amount of time it took for the JSF SDD contract to be awarded till it reached IOC. I think the Russians are better at planning than this.
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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 07:16 AM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

Assuming that it turns on.

Or that they have the parts to work on it.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 07:23 AM
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I wouldn't call it very stealthy.

This was old news back in October, related?

nationalinterest.org...



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 07:31 AM
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originally posted by: wewuzkangz
I wanted to scream like a school girl......Because this news is basically like giving Gurenburg the middle finger for claiming that the SU-57s wont be out until 2027 according to his expert opinion all over the western news websites. Here check this out www.vesti.ru...# uacrussia.ru... and just video player.vgtrk.com... showZoomBtn=true Just use google translate and here are the quotes that gave me a hard on the most.


"In Zhukovsky, the first Russian fighter of the fifth generation of the Su-57, the same T-50, with the engine of the second stage, was tested. At the helm was the Hero of Russia, the chief pilot of the Sukhoi Design Bureau Sergey Bogdan. The flight passed normally. It lasted 17 minutes.

As the Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov said, this is a big leap for the Russian aircraft industry, whose specialists have shown that they are capable of creating highly intelligent advanced systems. The new aircraft has a unique glider, an innovative digital filling and the latest engines. Characteristics of the Su-57 are kept secret, the Rossiya 24 television channel reported, which showed exclusive footage of the new aircraft."

So Gorenburg analyzes that the 1st batch of SU-57s will be out in 2027?

"A successful flight with a new engine gives an additional impetus to the program of a fifth-generation fighter," said the head of the Ministry of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov.

"In 2018, the Russian Defense Ministry plans to sign a contract for the supply of the first batch of fifth-generation fighter aircraft Su-57. They will be put into service in 2019, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov promised."




God I cant sleep from the hype. Wish this online forum was transformed into celebration party because drinks would be all on me LOL.


Use of all caps is against the rules for thread titles. You ARE screaming.....



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 08:32 AM
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a reply to: wewuzkangz

You say:

"In 2018, the Russian Defense Ministry plans to sign a contract for the supply of the first batch of fifth-generation fighter aircraft Su-57. They will be put into service in 2019, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov promised."

So they have one successful test flight and start poppin' these suckers out like peanuts out of a shell? Operational in about a year after mass production.

'You're kidding us , right?



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 09:15 AM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: wewuzkangz

You say:

"In 2018, the Russian Defense Ministry plans to sign a contract for the supply of the first batch of fifth-generation fighter aircraft Su-57. They will be put into service in 2019, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov promised."

So they have one successful test flight and start poppin' these suckers out like peanuts out of a shell? Operational in about a year after mass production.

'You're kidding us , right?


It is the Russians after all. So what if the pilot survival rate is abysmally low? He'll be Hero of People.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Aliensun
a reply to: wewuzkangz

You say:

"In 2018, the Russian Defense Ministry plans to sign a contract for the supply of the first batch of fifth-generation fighter aircraft Su-57. They will be put into service in 2019, Deputy Defense Minister Yury Borisov promised."

So they have one successful test flight and start poppin' these suckers out like peanuts out of a shell? Operational in about a year after mass production.

'You're kidding us , right?


It is the Russians after all. So what if the pilot survival rate is abysmally low? He'll be Hero of People.


That was my general drift, but we have some generous hearts toward Russian aviation hereabouts.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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a reply to: Aliensun

That is with the older engines. The thing is I don't know why people prefer a US analyst to determine the 1st batch coming out in 2027 over a russian defense minister saying its coming out in 2019. The engines are interchangeable anyways. I don't know what kind of Omen happened yesterday of F-35 panels falling out in Japan and an SU-57s successfully tested their 1st flight with new engines.But progress can still be made.......Now the next concern is the avionics they say 2018 ROFAR testing and 2020 production.

going from a 3,500 to a 5,000km range engine with no refuel or external fuel tanks sounds like an ADVENT engine to me because that is more than a 30% increase in range as well as less moving parts and weight than their previous engines. I dont think ADVENT engines would be put in or tested in the late 2020s for the F-X program. But I am sure the F-X will have an ADVENT before the Mig-41 has near space engines.

Come on guys brighten up

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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: wewuzkangz

Oh my god, you're right! Someone forgetting to secure a panel on the F-35 and causing it to come off in flight is an omen that the Su-57 is going to be the most successful stealth aircraft ever and completely own US stealth aircraft!



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: wewuzkangz

Oh my god, you're right! Someone forgetting to secure a panel on the F-35 and causing it to come off in flight is an omen that the Su-57 is going to be the most successful stealth aircraft ever and completely own US stealth aircraft!



Very disquieting. We should stop fooling around and start planning the 7th Gen. system before it's too late.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

That's what it was someone's incompetence. Thought it was a deformed part thanks.

I just hope I wont get kicked out of this forum like have with F-16.net for not playing in the same sandbox as everyone else. Let me know if I go to far in some cases


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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: wewuzkangz
a reply to: Zaphod58

I just hope I wont get kicked out of this forum like have with F-16.net for not playing in the same sandbox as everyone else. Let me know if I go to far in some cases



It's been my observation they don't really do that here. For the most part, they adhere to their Terms and Conditions here, as opposed to other places I've seen where it's a waste of time to read the T&C because the mods pretty much disregard them and rule by their emotions.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: face23785

Thats good to know. I still cant post yet at key forum publishing an aviation forum. Dont know if its too elite or too full. Just a fan of Jo Asakura because that seems to be a very nuetral site. As long as no moderators rule by emotion and dont mind different views thrown in than I am fine. Like this forum so far.

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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 11:19 AM
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originally posted by: wewuzkangz
a reply to: face23785

Thats good to know. I still cant post yet at key forum publishing an aviation forum. Dont know if its too elite or too full. Just a fan of Jo Asakura because that seems to be a very nuetral site. As long as no moderators rule by emotion and dont mind different views thrown in than I am fine. Like this forum so far.


There are some very diverse views here that are tolerated by the mods. They will actively debate with you, heatedly, with no consequences as long as you avoid making personal attacks or threats. Welcome.




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