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originally posted by: Hazardous1408
I’m not going to get into the particulars of your gripe...
I’ll just say this...
If you investigate the investigators, all you do is set precedent for the other side to call for an investigation into the investigators investigating the initial investigation.
And so on.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
(b) The Special Counsel shall not be subject to the day-to-day supervision of any official of the Department. However, the Attorney General may request that the Special Counsel provide an explanation for any investigative or prosecutorial step, and may after review conclude that the action is so inappropriate or unwarranted under established Departmental practices that it should not be pursued. In conducting that review, the Attorney General will give great weight to the views of the Special Counsel. If the Attorney General concludes that a proposed action by a Special Counsel should not be pursued, the Attorney General shall notify Congress as specified in § 600.9(a)(3).
(c) The Special Counsel and staff shall be subject to disciplinary action for misconduct and breach of ethical duties under the same standards and to the same extent as are other employees of the Department of Justice. Inquiries into such matters shall be handled through the appropriate office of the Department upon the approval of the Attorney General.
(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.
1. Interviewed hillary. This interview was not recorded, was pretty short, and allowed another person being investigated, Mills, to be present.
originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
Makes me wonder if we are reaching the Zappa point
Here's a blurb from an old document that might have some bearing on the discussion:
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
If something is not done to curb the abuses, they will inevitably continue. How much more will we, the people, accept?
originally posted by: Hazardous1408
I’m not going to get into the particulars of your gripe...
I’ll just say this...
If you investigate the investigators, all you do is set precedent for the other side to call for an investigation into the investigators investigating the initial investigation.
And so on.
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Grambler
Who investigates the investigators
Dammit House and Senate. You had one job.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Grambler
Who investigates the investigators
Dammit House and Senate. You had one job.
Well as bad as they suck, Mueller and the FBI has stobnewalled them at every turn.
In fact, it has become commonplace for the FBI to ignore congressional inquiries.
There is no oversight.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Grambler
Who investigates the investigators
Dammit House and Senate. You had one job.
Well as bad as they suck, Mueller and the FBI has stobnewalled them at every turn.
In fact, it has become commonplace for the FBI to ignore congressional inquiries.
There is no oversight.
originally posted by: 3daysgone
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Grambler
Who investigates the investigators
Dammit House and Senate. You had one job.
Well as bad as they suck, Mueller and the FBI has stobnewalled them at every turn.
In fact, it has become commonplace for the FBI to ignore congressional inquiries.
There is no oversight.
I agree. No enforcement of the oversight.
originally posted by: whywhynot
originally posted by: 3daysgone
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: 3daysgone
a reply to: Grambler
Who investigates the investigators
Dammit House and Senate. You had one job.
Well as bad as they suck, Mueller and the FBI has stobnewalled them at every turn.
In fact, it has become commonplace for the FBI to ignore congressional inquiries.
There is no oversight.
I agree. No enforcement of the oversight.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the only tool Congress has to force these rouge agencies and/people to comply is contempt of Congress. They have used that on the previous AG (Holder) and it got them nowhere. Our present AG needs to step up.