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originally posted by: toysforadults
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: toysforadults
The workers in this country are treated like dirt.
Totally agree and they are the backbone of the economy.
originally posted by: toysforadults
My message is as clear as day.
originally posted by: SR1TX
a reply to: Tempter
Those jobs do not produce anything. Most government workers are completely not needed and useless. This has nothing to do with their Skill Set and everything to do with their job description and position. Them paying someone at all means $ is being removed from the producer to a taker. It does not matter if they spend that $ in the economy as they are costing it (Through benefits, perks, etc) more than they are putting back. Not to mention that the Producer might now have an additional red tape person to have to deal with which bogs down things even more.
Don't get me wrong, we don't need putrid human beings that cut corners dumping waste or things like that. Enforcement is needed. However, most regulation is simply there to keep most of you all down and the big guys up.
originally posted by: Tempter
originally posted by: SR1TX
a reply to: Tempter
Those jobs do not produce anything. Most government workers are completely not needed and useless. This has nothing to do with their Skill Set and everything to do with their job description and position. Them paying someone at all means $ is being removed from the producer to a taker. It does not matter if they spend that $ in the economy as they are costing it (Through benefits, perks, etc) more than they are putting back. Not to mention that the Producer might now have an additional red tape person to have to deal with which bogs down things even more.
Don't get me wrong, we don't need putrid human beings that cut corners dumping waste or things like that. Enforcement is needed. However, most regulation is simply there to keep most of you all down and the big guys up.
I disagree. They do produce.
They produce consumerism with their paychecka, directly contributing to the economy.
All the super rich in the world would never by more than 1000 tv's or microwaves. We need millions to buy those things.
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Tempter
originally posted by: SR1TX
a reply to: Tempter
Those jobs do not produce anything. Most government workers are completely not needed and useless. This has nothing to do with their Skill Set and everything to do with their job description and position. Them paying someone at all means $ is being removed from the producer to a taker. It does not matter if they spend that $ in the economy as they are costing it (Through benefits, perks, etc) more than they are putting back. Not to mention that the Producer might now have an additional red tape person to have to deal with which bogs down things even more.
Don't get me wrong, we don't need putrid human beings that cut corners dumping waste or things like that. Enforcement is needed. However, most regulation is simply there to keep most of you all down and the big guys up.
I disagree. They do produce.
They produce consumerism with their paychecka, directly contributing to the economy.
All the super rich in the world would never by more than 1000 tv's or microwaves. We need millions to buy those things.
The point you are missing is that any money government workers spend from their paychecks is being taken from productive citizens through taxes. Government does not produce revenues of it's own except through taxation which is just confiscation of wealth from other citizens.
It is like if your neighbor robs you and you then you are supposed to be grateful because he spent your money.
originally posted by: Lab4Us
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: Tempter
originally posted by: SR1TX
a reply to: Tempter
Those jobs do not produce anything. Most government workers are completely not needed and useless. This has nothing to do with their Skill Set and everything to do with their job description and position. Them paying someone at all means $ is being removed from the producer to a taker. It does not matter if they spend that $ in the economy as they are costing it (Through benefits, perks, etc) more than they are putting back. Not to mention that the Producer might now have an additional red tape person to have to deal with which bogs down things even more.
Don't get me wrong, we don't need putrid human beings that cut corners dumping waste or things like that. Enforcement is needed. However, most regulation is simply there to keep most of you all down and the big guys up.
I disagree. They do produce.
They produce consumerism with their paychecka, directly contributing to the economy.
All the super rich in the world would never by more than 1000 tv's or microwaves. We need millions to buy those things.
The point you are missing is that any money government workers spend from their paychecks is being taken from productive citizens through taxes. Government does not produce revenues of it's own except through taxation which is just confiscation of wealth from other citizens.
It is like if your neighbor robs you and you then you are supposed to be grateful because he spent your money.
Wow...so in your utopia, no fire departments, no police precincts, no healthcare for those without money (government run/staffed clinics), etc.? No thanks, I’ll pay my taxes for those services, both for myself and my communities citizens...including the 40% or so who pay zero taxes...
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: toysforadults
The workers in this country are treated like dirt.
originally posted by: rickymouse
Millions of people in this country do not have enough money to go two months without a paycheck. If there is a crash of the stock market and layoffs result again like in 08, we will have major problems again. We have allowed certain liberal economists to alter our economy into a very risky place. They talked conservatives into thinking it would work to have a consumer based economy, it has never worked on a large scale.