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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:03 AM
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A coworker of mine just sent me a heads up email. I may loose my job thanks to automation. That just seems stupid to me. Why on earth would you let a robot determine how our employees are treated? I am very upset by this and will be making my voice very clear. First I have to listen to what they have to say today but if in fact they think I am of no use I will make my voice be heard. This is all very upsetting. I will have no problem getting a new job but for gods sake WTF




posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:06 AM
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what do you do?

high speed calculations?



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:08 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou I help people like you and I get what we deserve. A union lol but in a much bigger sence



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou




Why on earth would you let a robot determine how our employees are treated?

Because employers don't care about their workers. They only care about profits. It's cheaper to use that machine .

It stuff like this that makes me worry about a tax bill that hinges on employers doing the right thing for the country, instead of making more profits.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:24 AM
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Don’t get too worked up until you know the facts.
edit on 5-12-2017 by VegHead because: Robots



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

Have you ever worked for a company that didn't make a profit?

Not every employer is evil.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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The idea of computers is to send all our money to the people making the technology and developing the software to run the technology. It does not lower prices most times, in fact there is so much money being spent on technology that the services costs are actually increasing. More of our medical costs increases lately have gone to pay for technology than to pay for the wages of the health care workers. The thing is, these programs they are creating steer the doctor away from curing the disease, they do not look at you anymore, the program leads them to ask questions designed by doctors creating the program. The results are ridiculous, I feel the doctors would do better without this software program.

That is just one example. People will soon not be allowed to challenge the mistakes that technology programs make. Already, if you try to dispute something, the worker cannot alter the price, people are getting overcharged or services goofed up because software programs have no way of doing anything out of the box, if someone inputs something incorrectly, there is no way to easily change it. It is always in the benefit of the company it seems, so they do not complain.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou


Good luck today! I hope it goes well.





posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Allaroundyou




Why on earth would you let a robot determine how our employees are treated?

Because employers don't care about their workers. They only care about profits. It's cheaper to use that machine .

It stuff like this that makes me worry about a tax bill that hinges on employers doing the right thing for the country, instead of making more profits.


Employers have been BSed that it will reduce costs, that is most times not true. I have seen an employer buy a program to replace two workers at a hundred grand, only to have to buy a different one after two years at around the same price because that one was not working right. That hundred grand was way over the cost of the two people they replaced for the two years. I haven't talked to the guy much anymore so I do not know what happened after the second time he bought the program, he was cranky because he himself had to work so much trying to fix the program to work right.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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I woke up to this this morning :



I have promised myself that I will keep the bottle of Smirnoff under my pillow and well protected and take a massive BIG swig first thing in the morning so that she still looks like Cindy Crawford (like she did last night before the lamps went out)... when I wake up.

Never again...

Warmest

Lags
edit on 5-12-2017 by Lagomorphe because: I am crap



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:50 AM
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I would wait for the official word from your employer. Second hand information could be inaccurate.

Don't get wound up until you are sure of the facts.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:06 AM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: scraedtosleep

Have you ever worked for a company that didn't make a profit?

Not every employer is evil.


Ya that was even worse. Non-profits and people who work off grants tend to be shady and full of competition. At least in Biology. People fight over every scrap of money they're able to get, steal the work of other organizations to get money and everyone stabs eachother in the back to get ahead.

The best companies I've found to work for are those with more than 10 people but less than 20.

I've found with companies with less than 10 people. The boss tends to be cheap with everything, including his employees, places with more than 20 you start becoming easily replaceable or redundant and everything becomes less personal. That's when you start getting HR people and crap like that. The between 10 and 20 seems to be the sweet spot in the middle from what I've experienced. Usually you're employer has enough money to pay you well and get quality equipment...unless their an idiot....and you tend to be able to get enough skills, if you're good, ro become maybe not irreplaceable but valuable enough you won't just be randomly fired because of some nonsense.

Thia is just my experience. I'm sure there's exceptions to all these but I've worked for non-profits, helped run a non-profit, worked off government grants, worked for myself, small, medium and big companies and found the most stable and secure to be middle sized less than 20 more than 10 employee companies.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:09 AM
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Get used to it automation is the future. sure automation is not without its faults, but it has far less faults than humans ( especially Americans). The American work ethic is crap and most employees whine b*t*h and complain about everything. THey require vacation, health care, and generally hate authority.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: Allaroundyou

Just remember to act rationally and not based purely on emotion.

I am sure you are a great employee. Hear them out, make your case for how much an assert you are, and if they let you go, go on to become even more successful to show them what a mistake they have made.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
Just remember to act rationally and not based purely on emotion.


Screw that. Smash the copier and pee in the office supply closet.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Grambler
Just remember to act rationally and not based purely on emotion.


Screw that. Smash the copier and pee in the office supply closet.


It worked for Michael Bolton and company.

youtu.be...



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

...these programs they are creating steer the doctor away from curing the disease, they do not look at you anymore, the program leads them to ask questions designed by doctors creating the program. The results are ridiculous, I feel the doctors would do better without this software program.


My RN sister-in-law told me a few years ago that these diagnostic computer programs are exactly what medical providers want because it decreases their civil liability -- if not eliminates their liability altogether. Apparently these diagnostic programs are being sold as the latest recommended technology (including by the FDA), and all the medical providers have to say is that they followed all recommended procedures and protocols... not their fault if something went wrong. They did what was recommended by the "best" available medical knowledge and information.

Sure, you and I know it's "garbage in, garbage out." But they don't care.

It also seems that these diagnostic programs are being coded in such a way to hide/ignore problems, including antibiotic resistance infections, which are often never properly diagnosed, much less the source of those infections (which is too often healthcare providers). So, for example, a patient's death might be attributed to "kidney failure," with no mention whatsoever of the antibiotic resistance infection contracted in a healthcare setting which caused the kidney failure.

The devil is always in the details!



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Grambler
Just remember to act rationally and not based purely on emotion.


Screw that. Smash the copier and pee in the office supply closet.


Don’t... I repeat, DO NOT put ones knob in the paper shredder.

It stings!

Apparently.

Warmest

Lags



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

PC load letter? what the # does that mean?!



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: rickymouse

...these programs they are creating steer the doctor away from curing the disease, they do not look at you anymore, the program leads them to ask questions designed by doctors creating the program. The results are ridiculous, I feel the doctors would do better without this software program.


My RN sister-in-law told me a few years ago that these diagnostic computer programs are exactly what medical providers want because it decreases their civil liability -- if not eliminates their liability altogether. Apparently these diagnostic programs are being sold as the latest recommended technology (including by the FDA), and all the medical providers have to say is that they followed all recommended procedures and protocols... not their fault if something went wrong. They did what was recommended by the "best" available medical knowledge and information.

Sure, you and I know it's "garbage in, garbage out." But they don't care.

It also seems that these diagnostic programs are being coded in such a way to hide/ignore problems, including antibiotic resistance infections, which are often never properly diagnosed, much less the source of those infections (which is too often healthcare providers). So, for example, a patient's death might be attributed to "kidney failure," with no mention whatsoever of the antibiotic resistance infection contracted in a healthcare setting which caused the kidney failure.

The devil is always in the details!


You are absolutely right on that. I read something about less liability as you said. I did not know if that article was correct because I could not comprehend it being possible that this stupid program could actually work. I saw doctors doing this, that is why I researched it. The one doctor asked what the computer asked her to ask, then when I mentioned that it was not applicable to my granddaughters case, she ignored common sense and followed along with the program. I base my opinion on this from talking to my doctor, he said it is a pile of crap, only what it asks is considered, there is no way to input other symptoms into the mix that are related to what is going on. He does not use it, he said he tries to help his patients, they tried to imput info from different patients he successfully treated and the program did not come to the right conclusion on any of the diseases or treatments. I said none, he did say none.




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