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Red Line Crossed: Trump's personal banking information handed over to Robert Mueller

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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: jjkenobi
It's a full on witch hunt still being pushed by Democrats who haven't accepted Hillary's defeat.



That is one of the narratives being passed around.

Though the doj, and both house and Senate judiciary as well as foreign relations, and Intel panels, house, senate, are republican.

They can all stop it.


Right. All that would do is increase the decibel level with, "they're hiding something".

Intel has given Trump a clean bill of health. Any traction from that? Nope.

This goes beyond a 'witch hunt' It's a lynch mob....


Lol. So congress the judiciary committees, Intel committees, Doj, have seen that the SC has no resin to keep going?

Wonder why they haven't stopped him?

Wonder why the doj doesn't go after Clinton. Or congress judiciary?

Maybe because the corruption is on all sides? So nobody wants it exposed for real?


Well Nunes and the HIC are currently holding the FBI in contempt. Nunes also hinted that the FBI was hiding more then the Peter Strzok thing. We will know more more about that at the end of this month. Why are they always so slow...




posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: jjkenobi
It's a full on witch hunt still being pushed by Democrats who haven't accepted Hillary's defeat.



That is one of the narratives being passed around.

Though the doj, and both house and Senate judiciary as well as foreign relations, and Intel panels, house, senate, are republican.

They can all stop it.


Right. All that would do is increase the decibel level with, "they're hiding something".

Intel has given Trump a clean bill of health. Any traction from that? Nope.

This goes beyond a 'witch hunt' It's a lynch mob....


Lol. So congress the judiciary committees, Intel committees, Doj, have seen that the SC has no resin to keep going?

Wonder why they haven't stopped him?

Wonder why the doj doesn't go after Clinton. Or congress judiciary?

Maybe because the corruption is on all sides? So nobody wants it exposed for real?


Simply put the Judicial is replete with Democrat supporting Lawyers. Kind of obvious. The fact on Hillary and Bill's wealth is well known.

The Republican party, as a whole, are cowards...with a capital "C". They have similar crimes themselves, as the other poster noted. They are both crooked.

Again, obvious.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015
You think wrong. Reread my post. Your answers are there.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Lol. Not if he can prove it's a witch hunt and Congress says the same. .

Looks like your buying the narrative?


How does one 'prove' there is nothing to it? The response is we haven't dug deep enough. An impossibility to prove, until sufficient disgust is created. That will show in the mid-terms. Then again, the Dems tend to miss the pulse of the voters, don't they.

Let 'em continue with it.....


The process is when the Doj and committees check in and they have no preliminary evidence it gets shut down. They also pick a person they feel is a good investigator to begin with.

It's a very complicated situation. Your looking for an easy tag line for a headline like witch hunt.

The reality is this is how our government does things. Both sides. Including trump. They make sleazy deals with powerful people around the world to become president. Trump is no different. Probably just more of an amateur as far as using third parties from your third parties.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:43 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Lol. Not if he can prove it's a witch hunt and Congress says the same. .

Looks like your buying the narrative?


How does one 'prove' there is nothing to it? The response is we haven't dug deep enough. An impossibility to prove, until sufficient disgust is created. That will show in the mid-terms. Then again, the Dems tend to miss the pulse of the voters, don't they.

Let 'em continue with it.....


The process is when the Doj and committees check in and they have no preliminary evidence it gets shut down. They also pick a person they feel is a good investigator to begin with.

It's a very complicated situation. Your looking for an easy tag line for a headline like witch hunt.

The reality is this is how our government does things. Both sides. Including trump. They make sleazy deals with powerful people around the world to become president. Trump is no different. Probably just more of an amateur as far as using third parties from your third parties.


Trump chose Mueller. They even met one day before the announcement of the probe.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

Yea....

Hillary is being protected by rightwing shill and day one trump supporter Jeff Sessions, because....

No one has any idea why because it makes zero sense...



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:47 AM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Lol. Not if he can prove it's a witch hunt and Congress says the same. .

Looks like your buying the narrative?


How does one 'prove' there is nothing to it? The response is we haven't dug deep enough. An impossibility to prove, until sufficient disgust is created. That will show in the mid-terms. Then again, the Dems tend to miss the pulse of the voters, don't they.

Let 'em continue with it.....


The process is when the Doj and committees check in and they have no preliminary evidence it gets shut down. They also pick a person they feel is a good investigator to begin with.

It's a very complicated situation. Your looking for an easy tag line for a headline like witch hunt.

The reality is this is how our government does things. Both sides. Including trump. They make sleazy deals with powerful people around the world to become president. Trump is no different. Probably just more of an amateur as far as using third parties from your third parties.


Trump chose Mueller. They even met one day before the announcement of the probe.


It was Rosenstein. After Jeff stepped aside.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:52 AM
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Let's check the score:

* 2 people indicted on matters unrelated to the focus of the investigation (Manafort and Gates).
* 2 people caught lying to the FBI about stupid stuff (Pappadopolus and Flynn).
* 0 people found to have colluded with Russia.
* The Trump Tower meeting was set up by Democrats (Fusion), specifically to create a situation to fuel the Russia Narrative.
* The FBI has admitted that the Steele Dossier is not credible.
* We know that Comey leaked information and perjured himself to get the special council appointed.
* One of the key guys on Mueller's team actively worked to cover up Hillary's misdeeds (Strzok).

And now we're moving on to Deutche Bank, hoping to find... something.

At some point, you have to say enough is enough. This has obviously become a fishing expedition. Time to pull funding for the special council and his minions.
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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan



If you are talking about the reality in the justice system.

Those charges unrelated...are part of a plea deal in reality. The charges are a bargain for more info not their only crimes.
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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: denybedoomed

Because he ruined his business credit in the states and Deutsche bank were the only ones willing to give him money. From what i have been hearing from Malcolm Nance is that Moscow ok'ed the loan.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan



If you are talking about the reality in the justicenter system.

Those charges unrelated...are part of a plea deal in reality. The charges are a bargain for more info not their only crimes.

Manfort and Gates don't have any plea deal. They're fighting the charges. Manafort's lawyer has asked the judge to throw out the evidence because of Fourth Amendment violations (records seized in violation of attorney/client privilege).
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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: eisegesis



Still waiting for introvert's reply...


A reply to what? A Fox News propaganda video?

Na. Show me something with a bit more substance.

Confirmation bias videos only work on idiots.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:05 AM
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a reply to: conscientiousobserver

Someone please explain to me why russia giving trump loan years ago proves any guilt of anything?

As if getting a loan from russia proves that trump engaged in some sort of deal to give russia stuff to help steal the election.

Yet we have people, some of which are in this very thread implying this is somehow a big deal.

The desperation of trump haters literally has them thinking trump getting loans or having business with Russians proves he is guilty of stealing the election with Russians.

Its starting to feel like a rachel maddow episode in here.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: denybedoomed

Because he ruined his business credit in the states and Deutsche bank were the only ones willing to give him money. From what i have been hearing from Malcolm Nance is that Moscow ok'ed the loan.

Who the heck is Malcom Nance? And why would Deutche Bank need Moscow's OK for a loan? You do know that DB is a German bank, right?



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
no you just feel like the investigation is closing in on Trump. In fact, I have seen you repeat that line at least six times this year.


How do you feel when every single time you are proven incorrect?? That you devoured a pile of horse manure, enjoyed it, and keep on asking for more? Eh well, at least your not rocking yourself in a fetal position in tears like some others who have pretty much up and left this community.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:10 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

That is correct. However, most people understand they are part of the evidence stacking and sending a message. I don't necessarily condone the us prosecutors methods but it's certainly not new and it is pretty common and works on a weekly basis thanks to human greed and emotions.

For all we know these are slow timed releases to force people to make their moves in panic.

I personally think trump hired some amateurs and they got caught easier than the pros.


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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:12 AM
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originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: kurthall

originally posted by: nwtrucker

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: bgerbger

I wonder if thats why he has been refusing to release his tax returns.....?


Please. If there was anything in Trump's tax returns, we'd have seen it 'leaked' by the Obama crowd before the election.


Continue believing that.


No, if there was nothing in his tax returns they would be public record by now. He is hiding something in them, or he is embarrassed by them.





You desperately wish....




I don't "desperately wish" Try harder, I think more people would agree with me than you. In the real world.







posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

The desperation of trump haters literally has them thinking trump getting loans or having business with Russians proves he is guilty of stealing the election with Russians.

Its starting to feel like a rachel maddow episode in here.


By now, the goal posts have been moved so far, they're outside the stadium, somewhere down the street.
Trump has been doing business with DB for years. Dems are dragging Russia into this because The Narrative requires it.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

yes i agree this is a straight up witch hunt. it amazes me how if a dem does something bad of well but if a republican does or accused of similar oh he needs to resign. what i want to know and think needs to be put under microscope is how these democrats who came to washington with barely a shirt on there back have accumalated over 100 million dollars in wealth while earning only 150 thousand a year?



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 10:21 AM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: Grambler

The desperation of trump haters literally has them thinking trump getting loans or having business with Russians proves he is guilty of stealing the election with Russians.

Its starting to feel like a rachel maddow episode in here.


By now, the goal posts have been moved so far, they're outside the stadium, somewhere down the street.
Trump has been doing business with DB for years. Dems are dragging Russia into this because The Narrative requires it.


I see the same with Trump supporters who think he is a genius mastermind.

The reality is Russia is a powerful subversive force in the world and Democrats and Republicans have been playing with fire for decades. Lots of money to be made.

It's funny to see people support these politiciansites and treat trump like a genius or the anti Christ. He is just a self serving man. Same as it ever was.



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