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Red Line Crossed: Trump's personal banking information handed over to Robert Mueller

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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: shooterbrody
thehill.com...



White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Tuesday disputed reports that special counsel Robert Mueller has subpoenaed President Trump’s bank records. “We confirmed that the news reports [that] the special counsel had subpoenaed financial records related to the president are completely false,” Sanders said during the daily press briefing. “No subpoena has been issued or received. We have confirmed this with the bank and other sources. I think this is another example of the media going too far and too fast and we don't see it going in that direction," she said.

from "the hill"
take it for what it is worth
given the abc bs who knows


Considering the media and the white house lie on a regular basis it's impossible to know until the trials and unsealings.


It's UNIVERSALLY KNOWN that the Media lies far more than White House spokespeople. (Under THIS administration)




posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 05:20 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

And another link: White House: Mueller has not subpoenaed Trump’s bank records

So much for that story.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: loam

Well, well. Would you look at that.




posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: bgerbger
So the nothing burger continues.

Trump said was a that any attempt to investigate his personal business dealings would go beyond Mueller’s investigative mandate and would represent a “violation”.


www.theguardian.com...


Donald Trump’s personal banking information has formally been turned over to Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor who is investigating whether the president’s campaign conspired with the Kremlin during the 2016 presidential election.

Bloomberg reported early on Tuesday that Deutsche Bank, the German bank that serves as Trump’s biggest lender, had been forced to submit documents about its client relationship with the president after Mueller issued the bank with a subpoena for information.

The new revelation makes it clear that Mueller and his team are investigating the president’s financial transactions. It is not clear whether Mueller is interested in the bank accounts because they are connected to the Russia probe or if he is investigating another matter.


Perhaps nothing will come of this, but it seems the scope of Mueller's investigation, and the 'nothing burger' is continuing to grow.

Let the violation begin.


FAKE NEWS! I'll be contacting the Moderators to put this in the LOL or Hoax Bin.



Proof:

White House: Mueller has not subpoenaed Trump’s bank records

See you all in the HOAX BIN soon!




edit on 5-12-2017 by thepixelpusher because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 05:29 PM
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Anything to talk about things other than Trump victories in office....



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

His most recent loan from Deutsche bank was actually 2 months into his presidential campaign for $170 million. So nice try.

Russia also has/ had every reason to install a shill into our government. The $500 billion Exxon mobile deal that Tillerson was in charge of hmmmm. The only bank that will loan Trump money was busted laundering billions of dollars for Russia. Trump has a yuge problem paying back loans and is very pro Russia. Making it very possible to believe that through a little coercion and/ or blackmail that Russia successfully installed the yugest useful idiot into the most powerful office on the planet. In order to turn the tides in Russia's favor.

I honestly would like none of it to be true and for him to actually do the right thing by his people, but none of his actions or words tell me that was ever his intention.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

And another link: White House: Mueller has not subpoenaed Trump’s bank records

So much for that story.


Case closed. MSM is not doing themselves any favors pulling this crap.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: conscientiousobserver
a reply to: Grambler

His most recent loan from Deutsche bank was actually 2 months into his presidential campaign for $170 million. So nice try.

Russia also has/ had every reason to install a shill into our government. The $500 billion Exxon mobile deal that Tillerson was in charge of hmmmm. The only bank that will loan Trump money was busted laundering billions of dollars for Russia. Trump has a yuge problem paying back loans and is very pro Russia. Making it very possible to believe that through a little coercion and/ or blackmail that Russia successfully installed the yugest useful idiot into the most powerful office on the planet. In order to turn the tides in Russia's favor.

I honestly would like none of it to be true and for him to actually do the right thing by his people, but none of his actions or words tell me that was ever his intention.


Yep, anyone russia gave money too must be an implanted shill.

Oh, but pay no mind to the russian money the Clintons got!



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

He is an intelligence expert and he is saying the Moscow branch of Deutsche bank approved trumps loans or at least some of them.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
Case closed. MSM is not doing themselves any favors pulling this crap.

This apparently came from German media. But of course the White House would never fib, right? Hold my beer...I'm making popcorn, cuz I don't think this is over quite yet.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: Perfectenemy
Case closed. MSM is not doing themselves any favors pulling this crap.

This apparently came from German media. But of course the White House would never fib, right? Hold my beer...I'm making popcorn, cuz I don't think this is over quite yet.


You may be right.

Isnt there a possibility both sides are telling the truth as they know it?

Perhaps Mueller did issue a subpoena to deustche bank, but asked them not to tell anyone including Trumps team.

Trumps team then asks the bank and others, and they say no they havent received it.

I have no evidence form this, but it could be true.

But I see no reason for anyone to be certain this did or did not happen



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 07:21 PM
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In attempting to be taking an unbiased view of all of this info, I think you are on track.

If one looks at all the actual details and not opinions, it appears that Mueller made a request or subpoena to DB. The bank only states that they assist with investigations. That is a standard response from a bank.

No one involved...on record, is stating it is Trump. Except, media opinions.

Earlier this year, media went crazy in their speculations about Kushner finalizing a loan through this German bank right before election day. True, it was a legal process of obtaining a loan for a manhattan real estate.

With the paranoia reigning in this investigation, it is only natural that Mueller would have to look through the details to cover all bases of any impropriety.

I suspect this will lead nowhere...but not having details...still waiting for that confirmation.

Edit add: having worked in the banking industry as a Trust accountant, I would say a bank will not lie to their customer. They actually, would immediately tell their customer of any personal data release. It protects them from lawsuit and liability of release, even if request is by law enforcement. The only thing law enforcement can request is to freeze accounts, not the informing.
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posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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This 'Fake News' story was floated to tempt active leakers in order to flush them out.
Obviously, one took the bait...and has now been identified.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: CynConcepts

Not if there is a national security letter issued.

I wonder whether Germany honors those through their government?



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: Grambler



Nope, I wont accept an apology that is implying I am usually drunk.


Perhaps you misunderstood. I wasn't actually apologizing and I was not implying.



You lied about me to slander me, and are continuing to do so.


Funny how you take people's words out-of-context and use strawmen on them in order to put their character in to question, similar to what you tried to do with me in this thread, and then have the gall to act surprised when it is turned-back on to you.

Don't like the taste of your own medicine?



Please, keep claiming how honest you are while you spread lies about people.


I mentioned honesty once in the context of telling you how I did not care about the DNC BS, and I stand by that. I was completely honest. Now you seem to be running with it, for whatever nutty reason. I have not claimed, or kept claiming, I was some beacon of honesty.

That is your focus and tactic in order to deflect from the other things mentioned in our discussion. Even after I asked twice to discuss the issues, you cannot seem to actually discuss the issues. You focus on me like some infatuated teenage girl.

That's fine.

But don't bitch and complain when you get exactly what you deserve in return.



posted on Dec, 5 2017 @ 08:40 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Watching the news, this is what makes sense:

What is going on, if Mueller really did go this way, is that the investigators are following a lead with the bank, requesting through various channels, for records. So far what the track record is that the team looks at the finances as usually there is money involved, and a large amount of money. And the Bank in question has been nailed time and time again, even fined multimillions of dollars for laundering of criminal money.

So I would not say this is a fishing expedition, but to fact find, as there is probably indications on such. Now as to who it is about, that is quiet. Though I did find out that the origins of this comes from a newsource over in Germany.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 12:32 AM
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Couldn't this be more half-true news of the sort that leaked about Flynn? Perhaps they are digging further on Manafort or a codefendant related, for example?
It would mean the fact that Mueller's team did, in fact, request or subpoena records of Deutsche Bank, which might have been leaked. Someone hears that Mueller sent a request to the bank. Trump's association with the bank is welk -known. That person makes a connection Mueller-DB-Trumo that didn't necessarily exist. Leaks the info to the media. Media jumps. So we get where we are today.

Or it's all so much bull# and they never requested records.
Or Sekulow is full of # or mis-/ill-informed.

I'm just trying to figure out a scenario that might generate the story and the denial, and that seems as likely as any.
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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 12:43 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: introvert

Yes we know it doesnt bother you that the DNC rigged the system against bernie.

Really illustrates where you are coming from.



Bernie isn't a "true socialist" like he is. So, better for him that the pretender didn't win.



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 12:44 AM
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The records will be requested. With no evidence of illegal collusion with Russia, and his team of contaminated attorneys being exposed..Mueller is DESPERATE!



posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 12:58 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

I would say that barring some crazimess, there is a 95 percent chance I will accept Mueller findings, escpecially of they are backed up by physical proof, which is assume they will be.


I agree with this, I just want everyone to leave Mueller alone so that he can finish his job. If Trump did nothing, that is great news for him.



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