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What would you recommend? Government or big business?

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posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: Mandroid7
Do you think you need to NDA the patent attorney before talking with them?

You know, in case they like money too.


Let me rephrase, get a reliable patent attorney, not a Saul Goodman-esque one.




posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
a reply to: intrptr

Your skepticism is welcome but there is a way.
It is not as impossible as you think.

This planet is active naturally in many ways.

Self contained too.

Unlike man made devices.

Lubricant sounds like bearings, I hear wind or water flowing somewhere.

Like someone else said, get a patent attorney. Count on treachery and deceit every step of the process.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
If 1 has a consideration for clean energy that generates clean power, who is best to contact the government or an existing big energy company after the patent is drafted up & secured?

I have studied the turmoils John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, J.P. Morgan (Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison) went through and was wondering if there is a way to generate new continuous power limiting waste that was safe for the environment what would be the best direction to go?
Is it best to contact the Gov. or some existing power company/corp. for development of said project?

It is a new kind of energy generating turbine system that can be retrofitted into the existing powergrids is all 1 can share until patented.

I know some feel government are not to be trusted and some feel big business is over corrupt.
So what would you recommend?
U2U are also welcome.

Thanks for any serious guidance.


If the idea has promise, make sure you get a IP (intellectual property aka patent attorney), write up a business plan, and then start contacting tech oriented venture capital firms to see if you can get some backing.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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Data collected so far from thread on what can or should be done once the patent drawings are complete and possible prototype.

Make a youtube video proving it works.

Before applying for a patent though, make a copy of your invention along with any schematics and place in a sealed envelope and post it to yourself. Never open this envelope as you might need it in a court of law in the future.

Get a patent attorney.

Get a patent attorney NDA.


Consider treachery and deceit with those encountered. Or the cut throat mentality. Noted

Get a IP (intellectual property aka patent attorney), write up a business plan, and then start contacting tech oriented venture capital firms to see if you can get some backing.

Consider visionaries.

Thank you all again.

If anyone has any input on what gov. groups that can be contacted feel free to share.

As of now I will continue to mentally evaluate the project for issues and get the drawings made for patent.
I will keep this thread in mind and if possible share or update on progress made.
Be well



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Hmm that bit I mentioned about posting an envelope to yourself was actually good practice in Britain back in the day in regards to the music industry and original ideas being ripped off left right and centre. But the point was you need some way of proving you are the original inventor if you are going to bring it to market, before applying for a patent even, perhaps you can do it digitally these days. But make sure you look into copyright laws before you do anything else. The battle of who did what first with the pioneers of electrical engineering is still a contended issue, as you've pointed out.

But I suppose the real question here is, how much of a game changer your invention is? If it's a big one you will have to tread very carefully indeed.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: surfer_soul

A few years ago we passed the “first of file law” here in the US. So, it doesn’t matter who or when the idea first occurred.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 11:27 PM
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originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
If 1 has a consideration for clean energy that generates clean power, who is best to contact the government or an existing big energy company after the patent is drafted up & secured?


Create a Manhattan type government research project to develop the technology. And then license the technology to any private company willing to build and market products based on the technology.

I am really keen on LFTR nuclear reactors. The science is sound. And Thorium is as abundant and easy to mine as lead.



We could have commercial level LFTR technology if the political will were there. The coolest thing about LFTR reactors is they overheat they shut themselves off without human interaction.


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posted on Dec, 4 2017 @ 03:37 AM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

Seed it on a torrent. Any other way it can be removed very easy and so can you.



posted on Dec, 4 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

"What would you recommend? Government or big business?"

None of the above springs to mind recommendation wise.

To be honest, through they really is not much of a difference aside from the dog and pony show that the democratic process has always been.

Government and big business go hand in hand really.


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posted on Dec, 6 2017 @ 08:25 PM
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a reply to: Ophiuchus 13

It will be difficult---you'll need to talk to many people before if at all anybody is interested. You'd first do well by talking to university faculty.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: mbkennel

Very difficult project mbkennel indeed. I would need the USACE help. Adding university input to list.

This...

Plays a big part in the process also.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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As does this.

三峡大坝

Maybe it is a international project.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 08:48 AM
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I would need a group of engineers NDA approved to help brainstorm the actual components and technology designs and provide survey data.
All participants paid percentage of project to work together to generate the best outcomes.
It could power the world.



posted on Dec, 8 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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The engineers would quickly explain through problem solving the best parts needed. How best to approach where locating of the energy generating structures should be. Confirm how safe these devices would be environmentally. And estimate the electrical energy input output numbers efficiently.

Structures are enclosed within recycled materials or plastics to increase energy production.

These projects would generate various kinds of jobs from engineering to constructing. The correct handlers could in turn generate various jobs for various global economies.
If the idea was released/sold for example to the Pentagon for evaluation then tested and passed, what ever government that took over from that point would then generate new jobs for its economy and potentially power the world.
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