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Only China and Russia can save the world against the Deep State neocon Plot

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posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 06:19 PM
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Plot: Through the presidency of Trump the MSM and neoocns get their credibility back.

Plot: War with NKorea and Iran


The neocon plot is to get Trump to first, renounce the Iranian US nuclear deal.

Then through Saudi Arabia and Israel, Americas two puppet regimes in the ME, exacerbate the conflict with Iran enough to culminate in a war with Iran.

Then, something will happen to Donald Trump that will take him out of the presidency and the VP will take over and do certain things different from Trump, such as become virulently anti-Russian but keep the hatred for Iran and NKorea burning.

Trump's presidency is 100 percent to allow the deep state neocons and the MSM to get some degree of credibility back before they hatch their world war plans.

The clueless useful idiot Trump has no clue what he is being used for.

Has no clue he is manipulated literally, like a puppet on a string by deep state black psychological masters.

As the neocons are at the core of the anti-Trump liberal and mainstream media war on Trump, they are also behind the so called deep state war machine.

They were so angry at Russia for their intervention in Syria, where they have finally been beaten; they immediately hatched this Trump plot and arranged his victory over Hillary.

The only force on the planet to stop this mad plot is the Chinese government in the NKorea area, and Russia in the ME.

Both now have seen the treachery of the neocons actions and are no longer willing to sit idly by and let the neocon deep state rampage across the world with surreptitious and open military adventures against weakened states like NKorea and Iran, as they did to Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and many more countries.

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posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 06:33 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Plot: Through the presidency of Trump the MSM and neoocns get their credibility back.

Plot: War with NKorea and Iran


The neocon plot is to get Trump to first, renounce the Iranian US nuclear deal.

Then through Saudi Arabia and Israel, Americas two puppet regimes in the ME, exacerbate the conflict with Iran enough to culminate in a war with Iran.

Then, something will happen to Donald Trump that will take him out of the presidency and the VP will take over and do certain things different from Trump, such as become virulently anti-Russian but keep the hatred for Iran and NKorea burning.

Trump's presidency is 100 percent to allow the deep state neocons and the MSM to get some degree of credibility back before they hatch their world war plans.

The clueless useful idiot Trump has no clue what he is being used for.

Has no clue he is manipulated literally, like a puppet on a string by deep state black psychological masters.

As the neocons are at the core of the anti-Trump liberal and mainstream media war on Trump, they are also behind the so called deep state war machine.

They were so angry at Russia for their intervention in Syria, where they have finally been beaten; they immediately hatched this Trump plot and arranged his victory over Hillary.

The only force on the planet to stop this mad plot is the Chinese government in the NKorea area, and Russia in the ME.

Both now have seen the treachery of the neocons actions and are no longer willing to sit idly by and let the neocon deep state rampage across the world with surreptitious and open military adventures against weakened states like NKorea and Iran, as they did to Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and many more countries.
Did you say the media gets their credit back through trumps presidency? Is this opposite day?



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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Then... something will happen to Donald Trump that will take him out of the presidency and the VP will take over and do certain things different from Trump, such as become virulently anti-Russian but keep the hatred for Iran and NKorea burning.



I'm sorry, but this is exactly where you lost me. Where do you get your info?

Not everything is a conspiracy for WW3

Mike Pence may be one of the USA's most feared prospective "Presidents", but that "something" is a major gap in your theory.

I know Flynn is set to testify against certain people, and there have been theories about Trump's impeachment since even before he was inaugurated, but where are you getting your info? Anyone can postulate, but your OP presents as if you have inside info, which I would bet you do not



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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The plot may not work, but what have they got to lose.

After the disaster of the Iraq war the Neocons had the reputation of almost Hitlerian proportions.

They could not start a war with Iran and NKorea with that reputation.

They needed a hedge, a clown figure to look better in comparison.

If you look closely at the MSM commentators against Trump, major Neoocons re all over the media denoncing Trump.

Trump's clown antics are used to make them look good again, or at lease better than Trumpism.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: FamCore

The Neocons would accept Pence, who is a religious nationalist.

They can easily manipulate him, as they did George Bush

As for where I get my information from, Ill only say this

They don't call me WillTell for nothing!



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 06:56 PM
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The anti Trump media is being orchestrated by certain past intelligence people.

I could say the names but wont. Just look closely at the MSM and you may see them, since they show up from time to time.

It is not a liberal media doing this since there is no such thing as a liberal media.

It’s a corporate media owned and driven by controlled corporate interests.

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posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Firstly, I’d like to express my disagreement with the idea that Israel is a puppet state of the U.S.
Especially when all available evidence points to the opposite.

I’d also like to put forth my theory that it is in fact Israel that is behind the Iran narrative, and not the neocons, as you suggest.



As to your overall point...
I’m afraid I have to disagree again.

Russia & China are not going to “save the day”.
You have to realise the global hegemony, ie controlling powers, are above borders, nationalism & ideology.
These things that supposedly separate the U.S, Russia, China and other nations, are pushed by the Media arm of the controllers to keep up appearances, while the game continues behind the scenes.

What this ultimately means, is that any war, whether it be Iran/NK/Syria or even God damned Narnia, is all planned well in advance, by these very same people you assume, and are continuously told by Media, at war with each other.


Russia didn’t save the day in Syria...
They propped up a dictator because it benefited them.
The U.S didn’t fight against ISIS in Syria to save the day either...
They have many, many vested interests in the Middle East that they can’t afford to lose to a rag tag bunch of terrorists.
& China... they actually did literally nothing in Syria, because there was nothing for them to benefit from in the first place.



So tell me, what leads you to believe there is going to be some Humanitarian effort by any of these nations going forward?
You say the words “Deep State”, and you’re not alone in that, nor are you part of a small demographic.
Probably 50%, maybe more, of the people of Earth are talking about this “Deep State” now...

And how much do you want to bet, that this revelatory message that has become the cause de jour of the masses, was actually a well crafted false flag revolution started by the “Deep State” themselves?

Because that’s what this is.

“Deep State”...
& you and others picture shady rogue agents from the world’s intelligence community...
You picture corrupt politicians who are in those agents pockets...
You picture infiltrated media outlets...

& then you hypothesise their counterparts in the field...
The so called “good guys” who are fighting these elusive “Deep State” characters...


Not even taking a step back, for even one second, to ask yourself if this was all planned for you long ago as a deterrent to a true uprising.
Not even considering if you’ve been sent down an invented rabbit hole by the very Elite who constitute the actual Deep State.

Lead by the noses, with your good intentions used against you, your eagerness for justice used against you.


I hate to break it to you...
But this game is thousands of years old.
& for those thousands of years, it’s always had these same people at the top of the pyramid.

If you honestly think that suddenly the tide is turning against them, with thousands of years of planning by them going into it, a duration of planning time that you could never even dream of matching...
You are deluded.


I’m sorry for calling such a large portion of society deluded, but it’s the only accurate description for such a belief.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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Anybody with any sense watching the MSM hit job on Trump has to understand their not doing that based on any liberal interests, its wholly being done to paint Trump a dam fool in order to enhance their psychological operation, of creating a comparison of the past Neocons powers under Bush versus the fool-like governance of Trumpism.

This in theory will work, since there is no alternative in America to Neocons, Neoliberal, and now Trumpism.

Something had to be created to uplift in the American psyche a discredited group such as the Neocons.

If Hillary would have won they would have found it impossible to carry on their world domination schemes-- particularly with the failure in Syria through Russian intervention-- while the American people had a highly negative view of Neocons and neoliberals (Obama and Hillary and the democrats) both.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: Hazardous1408

If you want to say Israel controls America, I wont argue with you much.

Though, I think it is more a thing where the influence of certain Americans with Israels interest at heart more than Americas interest is what drives that

If you also want to aver that the American people are generally stupid, well, I’m sorry to say, I won’t argue much with you about that either
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posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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That op was written like a bad syfy channel movie.

Communists and a billionaire oligarch is going to save us!

I can't stop rolling on the floor laughing my snip off hysterically.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: neo96




Communists and a billionaire oligarch is going to save us!


No, they won’t save you…

It’s a lost cause.


Just stay on the floor and keep your head down in the sand



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

The problem with your theory is that there are easier ways to get that done...


Say the orcastrate 4 simultaneous terrorist attacks on day care centers in 4 different states.. then say Iran did it..


The next morning you have all the public support you need for war..

You plan takes millions , likely billions..

Mine 200k tips, and way less risk



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox


My conspiracy theory isn’t all about a war with Iran, it's also about a war with NK, and as stupid as the American people are they are somewhat getting hip to that scam.

But that still won’t bring the MSM or Neocons out of the garbage can, which is an integral aspect of this theory.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: Willtell



It is not a liberal media doing this since there is no such thing as a liberal media.

It’s a corporate media owned and driven by controlled corporate interests.


And that right there is one of the gems of the neo-cons massive propaganda campaign. To get Americans to believe that the mainstream media is liberal.


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posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Good Plot line.


The only force on the planet to stop this mad plot is the Chinese government in the NKorea area, and Russia in the ME.

Both now have seen the treachery of the neocons actions and are no longer willing to sit idly by and let the neocon deep state rampage across the world...

Yes, but a little while longer; stretch the supply lines a little further, run the resources down a little lower , expend the munitions store a little more, make the ocean of debt a little deeper....

Then, Shazam!



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 08:34 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

PS...

I think you are partially right with someone else.. I don’t think it is a deep state conspiracy the traditional GOP hates Russia... they have publicly demonized Russia since before regan..



I think you are over estimating the reasoning behind the intelligence communities hate for Russia..

I don’t think there needs to be some convoluted conspiracy.. they all wake up at 9am to go to work and fight russia..

So when they found out trump and the Russian spooks were working together, there was no way they were gonna remain silent..


Half of our military/Intelligence was specificlly formed to combat Russia..

Mainly due to propaganda, sure, but it doesn’t change that’s the culture..



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 08:46 PM
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Fine, but ask yourself this. Why has the US intensified there hatred of Russia whereas even now the so called liberals have been brainwashed to hate Russia because of the election

The US sure, for a time was still jousting with Russia, BUT when they did the Syrian intervention, the US started to have a conniption fit. It made things worse by a great degree and called for conspiracy 103.Trump.

It’s not convoluted, its something they’ve always done, that is psychological manipulation of the American people.

It’s working like a charm too

Anyway, I’m not really a dogmatic person, I’m not egotistical enough to be wedded to any theory too much, conspiracy or not…And only time will tell if my theory is true



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Ditto.. they got war with Germany by bombing the luthistania, and another admitted false flag started the Vietnam war, right??

Historically they have not need a huge convoluted plan to get their war..

Just some BS and a little propaganda..


A single sunken ship, or the claim that whoever has WMD’s has done the job..



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 09:19 PM
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a reply to: Willtell
It makes for a nice cheesy MSM production for like a Labor Day weekend made for TV flick, but as far as reality goes .... yea I will have to get back to you on that.

Trump is the military party leadership. He gives them love the way they deserve, and they are now functioning better to achieve our goals in certain places.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell


Anybody with any sense watching the MSM hit job on Trump has to understand their not doing that based on any liberal interests, its wholly being done to paint Trump a dam fool in order to enhance their psychological operation, of creating a comparison of the past Neocons powers under Bush versus the fool-like governance of Trumpism.

This in theory will work, since there is no alternative in America to Neocons, Neoliberal, and now Trumpism.

Something had to be created to uplift in the American psyche a discredited group such as the Neocons.

If Hillary would have won they would have found it impossible to carry on their world domination schemes-- particularly with the failure in Syria through Russian intervention-- while the American people had a highly negative view of Neocons and neoliberals (Obama and Hillary and the democrats) both.






Right. So what about his twattering? He is doing a bang up job of making himself look like a moron. The media are playing their part,but they are not the only reason he is looking moronic.



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