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ABC News suspends Brian Ross over 'serious error' in Trump-Flynn report

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posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

yep, "investigative" reporters and editors aren`t what they use to be.

woodward and Bernstein would be considered gods in todays MSM climate.

investigative reporting today equals reading something on twitter and reporting it as fact if it`s retweeted.

todays investigative reporters wouldn`t amount to more than a pimple on a real investigative reporters ass.




posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: bluechevytree
a reply to: rickymouse

yep, "investigative" reporters and editors aren`t what they use to be.

woodward and Bernstein would be considered gods in todays MSM climate.

investigative reporting today equals reading something on twitter and reporting it as fact if it`s retweeted.

todays investigative reporters wouldn`t amount to more than a pimple on a real investigative reporters ass.





Years ago I used to look forward to watching the news. I knew there was some propaganda there, but it wasn't at all like it is today. Where did they find these new reporters and investigators they have today? Hopefully they aren't paying them a lot.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 11:07 PM
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a reply to: bluechevytree But outlets still do that with Trump. I think what it comes down to is personal bias. Yes the ABC report was bad but other networks on both sides have done this numerous times.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: bluechevytree

I remember earlier this year when NYT was citing "sources familiar with Comey's thinking" to try to push the russia fake news narrative. How some people could even call this journalism is a complete joke.

They aren't journalists, they are left wing ideologues who are being paid to manipulate the public with propaganda.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 01:07 AM
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a reply to: Konduit

At this point it looks like the FBI is a complete joke.

I wonder how many of these "top officials" leaking
to the press were actually the fallen FBI agent himself?



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 01:26 AM
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originally posted by: bluechevytree
a reply to: rickymouse

woodward and Bernstein would be considered gods in todays MSM climate.



IMO, Woodward and Bernstein would be demoted to reporting "fluff" news, like toilet-paper scams and such.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: bluechevytree

I remember earlier this year when NYT was citing "sources familiar with Comey's thinking" to try to push the russia fake news narrative. How some people could even call this journalism is a complete joke.

They aren't journalists, they are left wing ideologues who are being paid to manipulate the public with propaganda.


The LEFT is an "accepted" equivalent of Islamic Radicals. No wonder they never criticize the bombers and shooters. Instead, they (in envy) refer to their leaders as "masterminds".



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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Anonymous sources. This is how the MSM justifies putting these kinds of stories out.

They meet up at a bar (or via texting), and decide that "this" one is their anonymous source, and start making stuff up so that their articles gain more hits. More hits, gets more and more ad revenue.

ABC finally is trying to clean up their act. If MSNBC and CNN starts to do that, maybe we will see REAL stuff finally getting printed.

MAYBE.

I'm not holding my breath yet though.

Fred.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

In other words, when a reporter for the mainstream news makes a report that turns out to be untrue, they are punished. Doesn't that prove Trump is wrong when he calls them liars?



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

How much time passed between the initial report and the correction?

Did the simple minded shrews on The View discuss the corrected article so their viewers would have the truth?

Was the lie uttered in the first place?

I would say that Trump was right on target.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I think the FBI should investigate whether people at ABC, Brian Ross, and his source colluded to influence the stock market with fake news. *Russian style*

I wonder how many people lost money and if anyone made money betting against the stock market. Those are actual measurable consequences and not some vague suggestion that maybe enough people would have voted for Hillary if Russia hadn't produced fake news.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

WOW!! You actually sounded a bit rational there for a second!!! Keep it up!
edit on 3-12-2017 by Zeta Reticuli because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 02:05 PM
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Good!

irresponsabile reporting like this only makes things worse. Trump supporters have already been crying fake news every time something is reported on that shows Trump in a bad light and now they can just point back to this story as being a example of that being true.

I can already hear them now

"well remember what happened with ABC news, I wouldn't be believing that...."

This guy should be fired, he cocked-up big time, it even affected the markets.

A mistake is one thing but it does look like it was dhiberetly dishonest reporting.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Seriously, you think he just did this all by his lonesome self?
Surely there are a few others who were in on it!
MME also has a good point about The Stock Market.
This is serious stuff.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Seriously, you think he just did this all by his lonesome self?
Surely there are a few others who were in on it!
MME also has a good point about The Stock Market.
This is serious stuff.



If there are proven to have been others involved then they too should go.

I posted on another thread about how I think the editorial team at ABC news also have a lot to answer for.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
ABC News suspends Brian Ross over 'serious error' in Trump-Flynn report

Don't trust news anchors named Brian.



To paraphrase... you don't need to follow them! Yoy are all individuals!!! Think!!!




posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: underwerks


Will be interesting to see how this ends up.


It'll end up with Democrats and or those who witnessed the original lie say the apology is fake and that Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross wasn't suspended but only went on a much needed Christmas vacation...



posted on Dec, 4 2017 @ 05:02 AM
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I realize that Trump is everyone's cup of tea. Whether he's just a puppet to greater powers, or actually an unconventional lightning rod that's stirring every melting pot in Washington D.C., I don't know. But, it would be really nice to see exactly how he's doing and exactly what he's trying to do. Meaning, all the politicians he's jaded and news outlets he has called out need to swallow their pride and ego and back off for a little bit. The Russian collusion angle is total crap. There were some missteps for sure, but so far nothing illegal and nothing damning. Yet, time and time and time again the liberal media just keeps hounding this guy. They are in full blown character assassination and that is, when you really think about it...a terrible thing.

He won the election and he is our president through law. The media is working against the people by constantly fabricating stories and lies about Trump's character and presidency. Think about that. Obviously, the media has been working against past presidents to some degree or another and we should have been more vocal about it from the beginning. But, MSM has gotten more and and more powerful to the point they are now. Obama was berated and beaten down by Fox News for 8 years; Bush berated and beated down for 6-7 years. Beyond that I wasn't old enough to know or see with mature enough eyes.

I didn't vote for Trump or Clinton, but I was happy that Trump won compared to Hillary. Now, I just want to see what he's really trying to do as President without constantly having to filter through the unreliable MSM.

Ya know, I ditched cable years ago...I was only 29. I used to be able to read between the lines of the big headlines to see what was really going on in the political mudpit. But now, it's all misleading garbage that 100% blurs the lines. I can see that easily, but I have no way of knowing what's truth and what's fiction. ATS also used to help me with that...because certain members are constantly on here pushing their twisted narratives, I can't rely on this place either.

Maybe it's time to ditch the internet as well...



posted on Dec, 4 2017 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: MotherMayEye

Every listed stock on the NYSE has at least one "specialist". They make the market jog up or down in discreet steps. With the Ross flub, these are the guys who had to ride that downburst, and hope to ride one back up. Think about it this way. I you slept through that glitch, then it's not possible to show you were harmed by it. But the well known "specialists" by running the board for one or another security, had to ride it down. They weren't the only ones harmed, but they were, and still are, in the front lines. And since the entire market nose dived, there are a lot of P.O.'d "specialists". Now, enter the S.E.C.?? I'd say that these conspirators would know that the inevitable, ABC News correction, would quickly lift the markets back up.

Short sales would be too easy, so I'd look for the folks jumping into these indexes right at the bottom of this plunge. I'd also bet that someone or someones, have built in charts which show these ups and downs, matched to our minus 24 hours News Cycles. So, these same snake bit "Specialists", are the very one's to figure out who did them dirt, with timed buy orders, in the hour or so, after Brian Ross's screwup.

edit; but unlike the masses, these conspirators had to know that it was fake news, and that ABC would quickly mouth a correction.


edit on 4-12-2017 by carpooler because: Connect the conspirators to the timed buy orders



posted on Dec, 4 2017 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP



Fake newsery is now being used to manipulate the stock exchange, serious serious crime.

Fake News is now Criminal News.

Serious people with power take this stuff seriously.



Your little avatar buddy is the one I'd think of first in any stock/money manipulation suspicion.



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