It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

This is why I hate socialists

page: 4
69
<< 1  2  3    5  6  7 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:25 PM
link   

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: DBCowboy

Because under capitalism has been such a utopic achievement?


Capitalism sucks, but it's better than anything else!





So back to old Trump sucks but he's better than Hillary.




posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:25 PM
link   
a reply to: XAnarchistX

Oh the idea eh.

We've seen it in practice since the 30s, and is nothing but a delusion.

Champagne wishes and caviar schemes .



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:26 PM
link   

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert




Even us socialists believe in fiscal responsibility.


Bwhahaaaaaaaaa!

Socialists believe in fiscal responsibility ?

The entire ideology is predicated on free snip supposedly paid for by robbing from everyone else all the while adding more things that can't possible be ever paid for.


Who said anything about free stuff?

That is the problem. You believe in propaganda talking points when it comes to socialism.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:27 PM
link   

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: DBCowboy

so, being a slave to monetary systems, beats abolishing monetary systems?


Non-monetary systems are great!

Until you add people.

Then it sucks worse.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:27 PM
link   
a reply to: links234




It's never worked, tax cuts for the wealthy doesn't give any money to anyone other than the wealthy. Trickle-down is a farce, never works.


So tax cuts only work for the poor and middle class.

Sounds like institutionalized discrimination.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:28 PM
link   

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert




That being said, you should not be able to keep all your money and still live within a society in which the rest of us choose to contribute to the betterment of society for goods and services.


So the 14th amendment be damned!


The 14th amendment is about due process and equal application of the law.

How is what I said damning to that amendment?


Someone CLEARLY hasn't read it and surely doesn't comprehend it.



All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Pay attention to the bold.

www.law.cornell.edu...

Money is property.


And the constitution allows for the levying of taxes, which itself would contradict the 14th amendment. Would it not?



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:28 PM
link   
a reply to: neo96

Well, what you have seen is communist dictators, the States were never abolished, Governments, etc so, it was a mixture of state-socialism/communism dictatorships, that was never the manifestation of the Marxist/Communist ideology



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:28 PM
link   
a reply to: introvert




Who said anything about free stuff?


Sanders and Clinton sure did.

Free college, Free birth control and their delusions of taking over healthcare that they have tried for years.

That's not propaganda.

That's actual platform.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:29 PM
link   

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert




Who said anything about free stuff?


Sanders and Clinton sure did.

Free college, Free birth control and their delusions of taking over healthcare that they have tried for years.

That's not propaganda.

That's actual platform.


Yes, the platform of non-socialists.


edit on 2-12-2017 by introvert because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:30 PM
link   
a reply to: introvert

Those taxes must be uniform.

UNIFORM.

And they are levied to pay the STATES bills not ours.

Something socialists just keep ignoring the hell out of.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:31 PM
link   
a reply to: DBCowboy



look, there were Tribes and communities of people throughout history that thrived before civilisation, and then capitalism took over.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:32 PM
link   

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: DBCowboy

Because under capitalism has been such a utopic achievement?


Capitalism sucks, but it's better than anything else!





So back to old Trump sucks but he's better than Hillary.


How the hell did you divine that from his post? That's just inflammatory crap. And capitalism was working great until about 30 years ago. The economy worked until corporate greed went insane. they went from seeing you as a customer to something to be drained.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:32 PM
link   
a reply to: neo96

except Sanders and Clinton are not socialist.

things would be "free" because monetary systems would be abolished, not because they would Tax people to pay for them.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:33 PM
link   
a reply to: XAnarchistX

Whenever I see this line, I get physically ill.

Saying that we never had a true communism is an insult to all those people who suffered in the name of it. Which is roughly a hundred million people. Communism does not work, it's been proven every time it has appeared. Period. It can only exist in theory.




edit on 633k2017Saturdaypm014 by Nikola014 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:35 PM
link   
I have too.

Since Article one was brought up.

And 'General welfare' has been made the part of the topic.



To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;


www.law.cornell.edu...

So socialists should be GIVINGS us 'assault wepaons' instead of running around banning them.

Doh!



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:35 PM
link   
a reply to: XAnarchistX

And we have had the technological progress, unlike anything we've seen in the history of the human race! There was never a better to be alive than today! And all thanks to capitalism.

But, capitalism is back. Give me a break

edit on 636k2017Saturdaypm014 by Nikola014 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:36 PM
link   

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: introvert

Those taxes must be uniform.

UNIFORM.

And they are levied to pay the STATES bills not ours.

Something socialists just keep ignoring the hell out of.


Then what about the 16th amendment?



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:36 PM
link   
a reply to: Nikola014

I never said you didn't have "True Communism" they were communist dictators, they had a mixture of state-socialism/communism. but it is FACT that they didn't follow the ideology of 'communism' which calls for abolishing the State, Governments, Class, Monetary systems etc. so it was their bastardised version of authoritarian socialism/communism, but not the intended Marxist/Communist ideology,

that is just a fact



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:37 PM
link   
a reply to: neo96

Do you know most "Revolutionary" ideologies are pro-guns, right?



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 03:37 PM
link   
a reply to: intrepid

It was more about how the same old # keeps doing the rounds, how many times I have heard we voted Trump because the other choices were worse.

We like capitalism because socialism is worse.... So you get it now?



new topics

top topics



 
69
<< 1  2  3    5  6  7 >>

log in

join