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Wendelstein 7-X: hot nuclear fusion reactor now working on second round of testing

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posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 03:00 PM
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I highly reccomend reading Teot's thread, it full of up to date info.
The more I read on Lockheeds program the more I am certain they have made a fundamental breakthrough of some sort, and are doing that hard engineering of commercialization.
I also believe that we will eventually see several different types of reactors being viable as all the differing research projects mature.
We have now reached a stage that important milestones will be reached with increasing frequemcy, as more data is contributed to the knowledge pool.
. One big development in the field that says a lot, is how NIF turned away from fusion research to weapons research, after achieving ignition.
Decades of work to see that it works, and "Ok, cool. Lets move on nothing to see here".




posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: punkinworks10

Unfortunately I am a harsh task master that makes you read and understand!

People learn different ways. I can read a bunch of technical material and explain it, if you have some technical knowledge. My temperament gets strained having to start all over! lol.

Which is why I don’t care about new threads that pop up except when it is duplicate work with the same questions. Maybe they can make “peanut gallery” thread with the main one? Or I could if I wasn’t so lazy! lol.

@all, the second round will complete and the science will be done first (it is a research device). The best way to follow is the newsletter at the IPP website.



posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

F-35 Lightning 2.

www.lockheedmartin.com...

Lockheed is the United States military/industrial besides MacDonald Douglass.

The F-15 was designed as a Reconanacane fighter escort for the SR-71.

I mean have you ever seen the images of F-15 pilots wearing space-suits when boarding?



posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: Kashai

The SR-71 was too fast and flew too high for any escort.



posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: Phage

They went after missiles fired at the aircraft with other missiles and as well as with the U2 but nowadays?



The US Air Force plans to arm its fleet of drones and fighter jets with high-tech laser weapons.... Ground testing of a laser weapon called the High Energy Laser, or HEL, was slated to take place last year at White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico, service officials said...

The Air Force plans to begin firing laser weapons from larger platforms such as C-17s and C-130s until the technological miniaturization efforts can configure the weapon to fire from fighter jets such as an F-15, F-16 or F-35. Instead of flying with six or seven missiles on an aircraft, a directed energy weapons system could fire thousands of shots using a single gallon of jet fuel.


tech.slashdot.org...

As far as high altitude?




The SR-71's maximum speed is 2,193 mph (3,530 km/h)

The aircraft has been decommissioned, NASA now has at least one.

Like the SR-71 that was classified the Ram Jet, or Scram Jet engine would clearly be the next engine but such an aircraft would today be classified.





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posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 08:48 PM
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It's frustrating looking at these boondoggles. The Farnsworth Fusor and Bussard's polywell improvements got a lot farther with a lot less. Even cold fusion is more promising.

However these projects continue so that they can keep their physicists employed.



posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 08:49 PM
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a reply to: Kashai

Are they powered by fusion reactors? Because that is what this thread is about.



posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

beautiful at the end it looked like the sun and solar wind.


i wonder where lockheed is in their endeavour


no matter who gets it, im excited to see this technology coming along.

i wonder what the ultra fast camerea is filming at FPS wise

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posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: Phage

You know some would consider that rude as you did ask me a question and I answered it.

Related to the topic I figure NASA is in on the next-gen spacecraft designed for resonance.

Then there are the Submarines and the whole idea that no one has (as far as I know) tested the structure of a Fission reactor by impacting it with a fully fueled passenger jet.

skift.com...

Fusion reactors are different.



posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 09:06 PM
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a reply to: Phage

there was the foxbat that was made to intercept the black bird but would need a rebuild of the whole engine if it dashed to meet one

the XB-70 was a mach 3+ high altitude bomber

but none are escorts obviously, what does this have to do with fusion



posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: Phage

But since you asked?




posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 09:29 PM
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a reply to: penroc3

Not certain why either I was simply responding to Lockheed Martins Status in relation to anything it working on.

Have been playing around for fun with the idea that sub-orbital aircraft with a fusion generator could be used to generate negative sound for propulsion.

It is interesting to consider and fun for me.

We have been working on this for quite some time and a point to this the magnetic field.

By the same token, we are working on magnetic bottles to contain anti-matter.



posted on Dec, 1 2017 @ 10:58 PM
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Music break.



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Merry Christmas

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posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 07:13 AM
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a reply to: Kashai

sub orbital flights are old news now and there is more than one agency of the US using them for whatever it is they use it for.


no need for fusion to get up and stay there

compact fusion



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 10:18 AM
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So why are we not industrializing and colonizing low earth orbit at the very least if these agencies are doing as you say?

Consider the last industrial revolution that transpired which was not covert or quiet in any kind of way. Should we ever devise a cost-effective means that allows us to get up there with a decent payload in tow it wont be the CIA/NSA/GCHQ that's responsible, it will be corporations and big business.



posted on Dec, 2 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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companies and nations have a very large presence in space.

but for civilian space travel there are still some kinks to iron out, even if one of your transports blows up during launch it would ruin your business.

so i imagine they want to perfect it as much as they can an offer it at a price people or smaller companies can afford. Space travel is a logistical nightmare. There are so many workers and engineers and what not that have to get paid as well as paying for the research itself. that's why i think that space right now is limited to countries and eccentric billionaires.

also there is not to much going on in space other than scientific research right now, i would bet once asteroid mining and trips to the moon and mars to start mining and colonizing there will be a ton of civilian flights.



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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Aye because safety has been our main concern throughout recorded history where colonization is concerned.


Any idea how many ocean going vessels perished on the way to say the likes of Australia or the new world back in the days of exploration and colonization? I dont but i bet the number is rather high, never mind the others that perished in prehistorical times. My point being that our current notions of health and safety rather retard colonization of hard to reach places.

The technology seems to have been working just fine, if a little on the pricey side, back in the days of our Saturn 5s. The reason there is not much going on in space is down to the countless proxy conflicts and socioeconomic predicaments of our own creation right here on Terrafirma.

No point in mining all that helium 3 on the Moon unless we have the fusion technology to burn the stuff. As to Mars, well the lack of a magnetic field and a very thin atmosphere and dangerous unpredictable weather, hence no protection from our Suns radiation, might make colonization anywhere but underground rather a dangerous prospect to consider or implement.
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posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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Caves and other underground structures, including Martian lava tubes, canyon overhangs, and other Martian cavities would be potentially useful for manned missions, for they would provide considerable shielding from both the elements and intense solar radiation to which a Mars mission would expose astronauts. They might also offer access to minerals, gases, ices, and any subterranean life that the crew of such a mission would probably be searching for.[3]
The program also studied designs for inflatable modules and other such structures that would aid the astronauts to build a livable environment for humans and earth creatures.


en.wikipedia.org...



The discovery was made by Japan’s Selenological and Engineering Explorer (Selene) probe and shows a 50 kilometer (31 miles) "lava tube" underground, alongside a lava flow river "rille" on the Marius Hills of the Moon. JAXA used radio waves to confirm the existence of the cave after examining the hole.


www.foxnews.com...



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: andy06shake

well with boats there is the chance of rescue in a reasonable amount of time, i went on a cruise recently and it was more like a floating hotel then a boat. in space you may not have the opportunity to be rescued and even air is a resource unlike a ship where the main concern in a disaster scenario is how it will mess with my normal schedule.


Mars might have crazy storm with high wind speeds but the density of the atmosphere makes the tornados feel like a modest wind.

on the moon and even mars i would imagine the human habitats would be mostly beneath the surface to avoid radiation and in the case of the moon meteorites. Subterranean habitats also offer many other benefits.

there are reactors(fission) that are shockingly small and could be dropped by an unmanned probe or just integrated on the craft to Mars or the Moon, and solar power would be way more efficient on the moon as well.

sources of power are not really a hurdle, its the money



posted on Dec, 3 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: penroc3

There was no chance of rescue back then, or at least very little, but the point is it did not stop us trying.

"Mars might have crazy storm with high wind speeds but the density of the atmosphere makes the tornados feel like a modest wind."

Don't know about that plus there is still the solar radiation to consider. Fact is we have very little data and/or viable information to work within that department.

Money is simply a means to an end, none the less we are nowhere near ready to colonize Mars yet or even get there in a proficient manner with intact payload and crew compliment. Hence the reason we dont go i imagine as if there was monies and profit to be had Humanity would be in there like swimwear.


The Moon will come first i imagine and is the perfect place to construct and launch any manned mission to another planet such as Mars.
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