Documents Prove Obama Used ‘Illegal Propaganda’ on Americans

Judicial Watch has some documents that seem to show that the EPA under Obama was engaging in illegal "propaganda" methods to sell the "Waters of the U.S. rule".

That rule was a micro-managing nit-picky thing that wanted to regulate all water accumulation areas.

Not sure what it actually did or if it's doing anything now.

Apparently the EPA was using the "Thunderclap platform" and it may have been illegal.

Well?

Documents Prove Obama Used ‘Illegal Propaganda’ on Americans
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The documents show that EPA staffers, via the Thunderclap platform, recruited outside groups to lobby in support of the Clean Water Rule or “Waters of the United States.” Thunderclap shares member messages across multiple Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr accounts simultaneously.

Federal law prohibits agencies from engaging in propaganda, which is defined as covert activity intended to influence the American public. Federal law also prohibits agencies from using federal resources to conduct grassroots lobbying to prod the American public to call on Congress to act on pending legislation.

The EPA’s Director of Web Communications Jessica Orquina, in a September 10, 2014, email, wrote to Karen Wirth, an EPA team leader in the Office of Ground Water and Drinking Water, urging the covert use of the Thunderclap technology. “I don’t want it to look like EPA used our own social media accounts to reach our support goal,” Orquina wrote to Wirth.

Judicial Watch Article

Sinister and Wicked


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a reply to: xuenchen

Judicial Watch has some documents that seem to show that the EPA under Obama was engaging in illegal "propaganda" methods to sell the "Waters of the U.S. rule".

Thats right, blame them now they aren't in office anymore. Anybody else see the futility of prosecuting former politicians. They are even more immune now.

Let alone the Gubment is still illegally operating down the road to ruin , anyway.

a reply to: xuenchen

Obama's IRS also illegally attempted to force people to buy Obamacare plans or be punished with audits. IRS sent out millions of threatening letters that contained personal data on taxpayers.

Obama's Department of Labor also illegally allowed Congress to register as a business, so Congressman can have 70% of their Obamacare health insurance premiums paid with taxpayer money.

a reply to: intrptr

There was lots of speculation and "blame" going around when that rule was being debated.

Now the speculations have come true apparently.

It was kind of obvious at the time.

originally posted by: intrptr

Anybody else see the futility of prosecuting former politicians. They are even more immune now.

Ah but what about the "historical" values ?

What about history written as it really was not as some would like it to have been.

Isn't there a US law which protects former Presidents from actions taken under their leadership in previous administrations?

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: xuenchen

Judicial Watch has some documents that seem to show that the EPA under Obama was engaging in illegal "propaganda" methods to sell the "Waters of the U.S. rule".

Thats right, blame them now they aren't in office anymore. Anybody else see the futility of prosecuting former politicians. They are even more immune now.

Let alone the Gubment is still illegally operating down the road to ruin , anyway.

Your statements make no sense. Yes, chase them down and throw them under the jail if they have done something illegal. So what they are out of office? May just make some future politicians think twice before acting so corrupt. While in office the corrupt politicians protect each other and with a corrupt DOJ protecting the party of corruption then of course go after the truth when the party of corruption is voted out of office.

Lock um up!

a reply to: xuenchen

Didn't he / his administration repeal a law that made it legal to use propaganda?
I forget what it was called and don't have much time right now, but I'm sure someone here will fill in the blanks.

Ttile says proof, story says seems, thanks for you daily propaganda quota mein lieber Freund.

It's not illegal, he just changed the Smith Mundt Act, it's cool

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Ttile says proof, story says seems, thanks for you daily propaganda quota mein lieber Freund.

But the emails published confirm.

All nice and official right from the government.

Nothing to see here.

Nope!

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Ttile says proof, story says seems, thanks for you daily propaganda quota mein lieber Freund.

But the emails published confirm.

All nice and official right from the government.

Im still waiting on you guys to prove obama was not american, so yea good luck with your love affair with the democrats.

a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Good bow-out.

a reply to: carewemust

Also...

June 8th, 2013
The Guardian, Glenn Greenwald
NSA Prism program taps in to user data of Apple, Google and others
• Top-secret Prism program claims direct access to servers of firms including Google, Apple and Facebook
• Companies deny any knowledge of program in operation since 2007
• Obama orders US to draw up overseas target list for cyber-attacks

Propaganda, hides your scum.

originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: intrptr

Anybody else see the futility of prosecuting former politicians. They are even more immune now.

Ah but what about the "historical" values ?

What about history written as it really was not as some would like it to have been?

History will record there was a call to investigate but nothing came of it. History will rewrite that to mean there was no cause to prosecute.

See how they run...

The government has been spinning and brainwashing and indoctrinating the American people for decades at least, long before Obama took office.

It picks and chooses what laws it obeys or breaks. Bush didn't like the FISA law and openly admitted violating it. Obama didn't like this "propaganda" law and broke it.

Congress and the Executive have violated the War Powers Act while the ink was still wet on the statute.

WTF is new here?

a reply to: intrptr

Prosecution would be only right if this was in fact illegal.

What I'm pleased with is just to show the light on these dark corners of the previous admin, if only to ward off white washing and romanticizing this obviously corrupt administration under Obama.

Yes, pull them all down if theres illegal moves in any admin, past or present.

a reply to: Butterfinger

Yes, pull them all down if theres illegal moves in any admin, past or present.

Never happen. Even after their nation was obliterated and military destroyed, the head Nazis at Nuremberg all plead not guilty. The current regime will never knowingly prosecute each other while they are still in power. The proof is they haven't. Not one has been charged with crimes against humanity, as far back as you want to go.

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) violated publicity or propaganda and anti-lobbying provisions contained in appropriations acts with its use of certain social media platforms in association with its "Waters of the United States" (WOTUS) rulemaking in fiscal years 2014 and 2015. Specifically, EPA violated the publicity or propaganda prohibition though its use of a platform known as Thunderclap that allows a single message to be shared across multiple Facebook, Twitter, and Tumblr accounts at the same time. EPA engaged in covert propaganda when the agency did not identify EPA's role as the creator of the Thunderclap message to the target audience. The agency's #DitchtheMyth and #CleanWaterRules social media campaigns did not implicate the publicity or propaganda prohibition. EPA also violated anti-lobbying provisions though its hyperlinks to certain external Web pages in an EPA blog post. Both of the external Web pages led to appeals to the public to contact Congress in support of the WOTUS rule, which taken in context, constituted appeals to contact Congress in opposition to pending legislation. EPA associated itself with these messages through its decision to include the hyperlinks in its blog post.