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Donald Trump retweets far-right ultra nationalist group Britain First videos , Oi Vey !

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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: Quadrivium

Great statement.




posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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a reply to: bastion

Right, you've been "infiltrating the fash", but you're as censorial as them.

How is Britain First affiliated with Combat 18?



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Wrong. My position is that I live here and have experience of "debating" with these mysogenist bastards.

Look at my profile. I'm from Rotherham. Between cowardly politicians and police and hate fuelled far right extremists, we've had our bellyfull of this bull#. At one point we were having EDL/BF "protests" in town every week! I despise bigotry and racist rabble rousing and I let them know it. Face to face. Google Rotherham scandal if you can be bothered.

I'll be honest, when I see the absolute garbage you've written on this thread in your attempt to mitigate any blame that Trump may have, even seeking to make BF appear to be "misunderstood", or whatever your aim may be, I despise you too.

Yes, they are Nazi''s. If you replace "Britain First" with "Nazi Party" in every post you've written about them and imagine, for context, that you're writing in the 1920's, you may gain some insight into what your posts look like on this side of the Atlantic. Being American AND pro Trump however, I suspect you just won't care.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:45 PM
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a reply to: waynos

Good.

No one, especially not me, care what you think about yourself or what you think you are. You're scared of thoughts and words and your only response is hatred. Just like the people you oppose, you resort to censorship, violence and hatred. You cannot even refute their ideas.

I'm Canadian. The sad part is I hold more British values than you ever will.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
the biggest problem is that they just peddle fear. It's one thing to be wary and careful and to have concerns. It's quite another to say that the streets aren't safe any longer etc.

We usually find that when we have boots on the ground or someone that actually lives in these places, that there is no problem.

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Tell me where there is a Muslim no go zone or a place ran by immigrants that even police fear to go in America. and I'll go there and film myself walking around all hours of the day and night to show you that this just doesn't exist.


Same here too, but you often see the claim,I once saw Fox News say it about Birmingham and a certain Orange troll as said as much.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

That may be my fault. I was referring to a video I saw on Facebook, not one of the Trump tweets.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: waynos

originally posted by: amazing
the biggest problem is that they just peddle fear. It's one thing to be wary and careful and to have concerns. It's quite another to say that the streets aren't safe any longer etc.

We usually find that when we have boots on the ground or someone that actually lives in these places, that there is no problem.

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Tell me where there is a Muslim no go zone or a place ran by immigrants that even police fear to go in America. and I'll go there and film myself walking around all hours of the day and night to show you that this just doesn't exist.


Same here too, but you often see the claim,I once saw Fox News say it about Birmingham and a certain Orange troll as said as much.


Yeah and then when you actually talk to people that live in Birmingham, it's pretty much the same as it's always been.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Yup, you can read all about me on Redwatch, they've had a bounty on my head since but haven't done a good job of intimidating me yet.

www.redwatch.co.uk...

'studying journalism at the University of Central Lancashire and is the Deputy News Editor of the university newspaper Pluto and a member of the National Union of Journalists. He is proud, as he puts it, to expose “racism and homophobia” wherever it may be. BEWARE OF HIM; HE OFTEN GOES UNDERCOVER TO DO THIS. Going undercover seems to be a tactic he is particularly fond of. His articles have had some unpleasant consequences for the subjects.

He is purely and simply a big red bully boy and someone who ultimately would like to do away with free speech. He is guilty of social engineering and curtailment of Nationalism. He is the type of person who sneers at Christianity and would not bat an eyelid at urinating on the Union Flag. Because of his contacts and position as a journalist he uses scare tactics to stop people talking about certain issues. Should they talk about these issues he will “expose” them in the press.'
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The combat eighteen links are from the founder Jim Dowson, their alliance to recruit teachers. Pie and Mash Squad recruited for them during their 'hang a ni..er while wearing KKK UNiform gigs' www.theguardian.com...

, then there' people like Diddyman and NWI associates plus a few minutes of sleuthing on facebook and twitter - don't have them any more - will reveal several dozen Britain First members who are also CEighteen which is almost the entirety of their support.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: waynos

thank you



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:55 PM
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originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Quadrivium
So you are mad that he retweeted the videos? Did you watch them? Not mad at the content, just that he tweeted? WOW.


Video's have been debunked.
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Trump's proud bigotry and hate toward Muslims severely damages our relationship with Muslim allies, reduces cooperation in fighting terrorism, feeds and nourishes terrorist propaganda and literally puts Americans lives at greater risk abroad, both civilians and the military who rely on local cooperation in fighting terrorists.

Trump's unstable mental condition, low impulse control and inability to understand consequences is a danger to Americans everywhere.

The United States longest and closest ally, Great Britain, has twice reprimanded and condemned the President in the past 48 hours.

He is shockingly unqualified for office.

Here's the thing, I did not vote for him and I do not agree with everything he has done but he IS doing a good job.


How?

Please be specific. No broad rhetoric without substance please.
I am genuinely interested in what actions lead supporters to conclude he is doing a good job and by what measure.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: waynos

Good.

No one, especially not me, care what you think about yourself or what you think you are. You're scared of thoughts and words and your only response is hatred. Just like the people you oppose, you resort to censorship, violence and hatred. You cannot even refute their ideas.

I'm Canadian. The sad part is I hold more British values than you ever will.


Strange. This reply has nothing to do with what I wrote. I do not give a toss what you think about me and I certainly didn't refer to what I think of myself. You appear to be making things up in the absence of a proper reply. If you actually want to address anything I actually wrote, feel free.

ETA, sorry for labelling you American, I was misled by the smug self righteousness you display. I should remember than anyone can be an arsehole.
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posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: waynos

Good.

No one, especially not me, care what you think about yourself or what you think you are. You're scared of thoughts and words and your only response is hatred. Just like the people you oppose, you resort to censorship, violence and hatred. You cannot even refute their ideas.

I'm Canadian. The sad part is I hold more British values than you ever will.


What is a British value? Just curious.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: waynos

Good.

No one, especially not me, care what you think about yourself or what you think you are. You're scared of thoughts and words and your only response is hatred. Just like the people you oppose, you resort to censorship, violence and hatred. You cannot even refute their ideas.

I'm Canadian. The sad part is I hold more British values than you ever will.


What is a British value? Just curious.


Free speech. Rather, it was a British value.
edit on 30-11-2017 by LesMisanthrope because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: waynos

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: waynos

Good.

No one, especially not me, care what you think about yourself or what you think you are. You're scared of thoughts and words and your only response is hatred. Just like the people you oppose, you resort to censorship, violence and hatred. You cannot even refute their ideas.

I'm Canadian. The sad part is I hold more British values than you ever will.


Strange. This reply has nothing to do with what I wrote. I do not give a toss what you think about me and I certainly didn't refer to what I think of myself. You appear to be making things up in the absence of a proper reply. If you actually want to address anything I actually wrote, feel free.


All you can do is refer to yourself and your feelings.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: waynos

Good.

No one, especially not me, care what you think about yourself or what you think you are. You're scared of thoughts and words and your only response is hatred. Just like the people you oppose, you resort to censorship, violence and hatred. You cannot even refute their ideas.

I'm Canadian. The sad part is I hold more British values than you ever will.


What is a British value? Just curious.


Free speech.


That's a good value and I agree that, in this case we're talking about Trump, that he should be allowed free speech as should any group that want's to talk or express their values. However, when your leader tweets misleading, obvious propaganda meant to encourage fear, then it's our right-no our Duty, to call him out on it. As in this case.
edit on 30-11-2017 by amazing because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 03:07 PM
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How about focusing on the real issue - that Trump is selling doom porn to the (more gullible) American public. How about he dig up such photos and videos of immigration violence in the United States? Might take some doing.

You can dig up endless media of American violence by OTHER Americans, no sweat. How about focusing on the real problems. I don't mind a reasonable vetting of immigrants. A wholesale shutdown of (Muslim) immigrants because "they are sooo dangerous"! is a ludicrous lie and a waste of effort.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: waynos

Good.

No one, especially not me, care what you think about yourself or what you think you are. You're scared of thoughts and words and your only response is hatred. Just like the people you oppose, you resort to censorship, violence and hatred. You cannot even refute their ideas.

I'm Canadian. The sad part is I hold more British values than you ever will.


What is a British value? Just curious.


Free speech.


That's a good value and I agree that, in this case we're talking about Trump, that he should be allowed free speech as should any group that want's to talk or express their values. However, when your leader tweets misleading, obvious propaganda meant to encourage fear, then it's our right-no our Duty, to call him out on it. As in this case.


That’s fair. Yet we hear nothing about his other tweets, statements, speeches etc. Only the ones handed to you by obvious propaganda.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

If you say so.



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 03:20 PM
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Just read the BNP (London) manifesto - wow pretty scary stuff!

NOT

bnp.org.uk...

Seems like a bunch of reasonable programs.

Why is it so bad to actually be white and British and proud of your heritage? Because NAZIS? What? Why is that an acceptable answer? It doesn't seem like these guys are Nazi's at all but men and women that think their culture (that they are proud of) is being overrun with non compatible culture and non compatible social programs. I would have to say they are correct.

I suppose the worse thing about the left these days is the smugness and holier than thou attitude they take with all these things instead of actually calming down and having a discussion on the points and trying to find a compromise. Nope, that is impossible, because NAZIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Nov, 30 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: Fools

Look into their founder John Tyndall, he's the one doing the seig heil at a BNP rally infront of a Swastika here, while dressed as a Nazi and with a picture of Hitler on the wall.

Yeah they're Nazi. Ask anyone in the UK.

maws.files.wordpress.com...

A racist, violent neo-nazi to the end: BNP founder Tyndall dies

One of the dominant figures of the British far right for the last 50 years has died two days before he was due to appear in court charged with inciting racial hatred. John Tyndall, 71, was found at his home in Hove, West Sussex, by his wife yesterday morning after he was believed to have had a heart attack. Police said there were no suspicious circumstances involved in his death.

Tyndall, the founder of the modern British National party, was known among followers and observers of the far right for his jackboots, arrogance and dedication to Nazi racial ideals. After forming the BNP in 1982, he imposed his particular brand of doctrinaire leadership, holding marches, threatening violence and promoting openly racist policies such as the compulsory repatriation of all foreigners.

www.theguardian.com...

Griffin wasn't much better, what with being a Holocaust denier, who claimed it was a Holo-hoax invented by Jews to demonise Nazis and being part of White Power and National Front.

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Having handed out leaflets exposing the sinister underbelly of the Party and its history to thousands of members in Blackpool at their annual conference all conversations were civil and once people realised I wasn't accusing them of being a Nazi, just the leadership, the majority we're more than happy to debate and read the material and agreed with me that the BNP are Nazi.
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